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SESSION. MAYBE I SHOULD TURN MY MICROPHONE ON THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE TOWN OF
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HORIZON CITY IS NOW IN SESSION. COULD YOU PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HELLO, EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US AND THOSE THAT ARE STREAMING ALONG. WELCOME. WE'LL GO AHEAD. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AND IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OPEN FORUM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR OPEN FORUM? I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO CHECK TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS SIGNED UP. NOBODY SIGNED UP. OKAY. NOBODY HAS[Additional Item]
SIGNED UP HERE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I DO WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. OUR WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS TO THIS NEXT MONTH AS WELL. BUT I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE WE HAVE SOME GREAT NEWS. THE HORIZON CITY 14 U BASEBALL TEAM. LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP LAST WEEK. THEY DID FANTASTIC. SO. THEY WERE IN A TOURNAMENT. THEY BEAT A COUPLE OF FANTASTIC TEAMS, AND NOW THEY ARE GOING TO REPRESENT THE STATE OF TEXAS IN A REGIONAL TOURNAMENT TO DETERMINE. IF THEY CAN REPRESENT THE SOUTHWEST REGION IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES. SO THEY'RE THREE GAMES AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO REPRESENT THE SOUTHWEST REGION.AND THOSE KIDS ARE ALL HORIZON CITY KIDS, AND WE ARE SUPER PROUD OF THEM. WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF THEIR COACHES. AND I JUST WANTED TO TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE THE NEXT TOURNAMENT IS UP IN ALBUQUERQUE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TO GIVE THEM SOME PRAISE AND KNOW THAT WE'RE WITH YOU GUYS. WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF YOU. AND ONCE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE YOU GUYS THIS COMING MONTH AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT COUNCIL, PLEASE. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO
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AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE. OKAY. FOR CONSENT AGENDA, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM ALDERMAN QUIROZ AND A SECOND FROM MAYOR MENDOZA. PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA I. QUIROZ. ORTEGA. AVILA. I AMES. I GARCIA. MENDOZA. I. MOTION CARRIES. MOVE ON TO[12. Discussion and Action]
REGULAR AGENDA, PLEASE. OKAY. FOR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 ON AN UPDATE FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JESSE SANCHEZ. I'M HORIZON CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM MANAGER. THANK YOU SIR. WRONG ONE, I APOLOGIZE. LET ME TRY TO GET TO THE CORRECT ONE.
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OUR. OUR JUNE JULY 2026 CIP ACTIVITIES INCLUDED THE CERTIFICATION OF FOUR STAFF MEMBERS FOR TEXTILE. LGP102 CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. AND THIS COMPLETES THREE OF THREE TRAINING SESSIONS FOR TRAINING AND QUALIFICATION COURSES FOR TXDOT. AND THAT MEANS THAT TXDOT MAY ALLOW HORIZON CITY TO FACILITATE AND PROCURE ITS OWN FEDERALLY FUNDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS OUR GOAL. WE'LL WAIT AND SEE HOW THAT DEVELOPS. WE REVIEWED THE 60% DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR DILI LAKE AND TRANSIT PLAZA. WE REMOVED THE OLD 40 FOOT COMMUNICATIONS TOWER FROM OUR OLD FACILITY. WE PROCESSED A CERTIFICATE OF FINAL ACCEPTANCE FROM MUNICIPAL FACILITIES PHASE ONE. AND THAT MEANS THAT THE CONTRACTORS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS HAVE BEEN FULLY MET, THE PUNCH LIST HAS BEEN FULLY RESOLVED, AND THE BUILDING HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY DELIVERED TO HORIZON CITY. CONGRATULATIONS TO HORIZON CITY. YOU DESERVE IT. THANK YOU. AND COMPLETING MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. PHASE ONE.WE MOVED ON TO INITIATE FACILITIES. PHASE TWO MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. PHASE TWO WILL BE A BUILDING FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS. IT WILL BE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT BEHIND THIS BUILDING. PUBLIC WORKS WILL HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION BUDGET OF TWO $2 MILLION. THAT COMES OUT TO APPROXIMATELY $240 PER SQUARE FOOT. THIS PROJECT WILL BE LOCALLY FUNDED. IT WILL HAVE AN 8000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 4472 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE AND A 3528 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SPACE, AS SHOWN ON THE FLOOR PLAN TO THE LEFT. THIS BUILDING WILL HOUSE APPROXIMATELY 18 TO 20 STAFF MEMBERS. CURRENTLY, HORIZON CITY WOULD HAVE 12 STAFF MEMBERS TO POPULATE THIS THIS NEW BUILDING. BUT HORIZON CITY WANTS TO DEVELOP ITS OWN GROUNDS CREW, AND THAT WILL BE ABOUT SIX MORE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE REPORTING TO THIS NEW OFFICE BUILDING. WE ARE CURRENTLY TRACKING A TOTAL OF SEVEN PROJECTS THREE IN THE PLANNING PHASE HOWARD ROAD PEDESTRIAN MALL, OUR CIRCULATORS WITH SOCORRO AND UTEP AND MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. PHASE TWO INITIATION OF THAT.
WE HAVE ONE PROJECT IN THE DESIGN PHASE THAT'S DELAY, DELAY AND TRANSIT PLAZA. WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS IN CONSTRUCTION NORTH DARRINGTON ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, OUR 120 FOOT SELF-SUPPORT TOWER AND ONE PROJECT IN CLOSE OUT THAT IS A RODMAN SHARED USE PATH. OUR CIRCULATOR ROUTES. THE GRANT TRANSFER IS IN PROCESS WITH THE EL PASO TRANSIT AUTHORITY. THAT IS OUR US EPA CARBON REDUCTION PROGRAM GRANT. THAT'S A THREE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM THAT HAS AN 80/20 COST SPLIT. OUR TOTAL GRANT AWARD WAS 1,500,034 $784, WITH A 20% MATCH TOTALING 306,956 $956.80. THIS APPROVAL IS DONE IN DIFFERENT STEPS. THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET AN AMENDMENT, AN ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENT FROM THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION. AFTER THAT, IT GOES TO THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO BE A SUBRECIPIENT OF TXDOT. IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED BY THE FUNDING AGENCY, THEN HORIZON CITY WILL BE CONSIDERED SOMETHING CALLED A PASS THROUGH ENTITY PTE, AND THAT DOESN'T REMOVE ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. WE WOULD STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THAT GRANT, AND THAT MAY INCLUDE RISK MANAGEMENT, ANY DETAILS IN THE AGREEMENT, MONITORING AND CONTROLLING THE PROJECT AND AUDIT VERIFICATION IF NECESSARY.
OUR 120 FOOT SELF-SUPPORT TOWER IS GOING UP RIGHT BEHIND THIS BUILDING. CONSTRUCTION STARTED ON JUNE THE 9TH WITH A SCHEDULED CONSTRUCTION END ON AUGUST THE 1ST. THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN INSTALLED. CONCRETE. THE CONCRETE CURING IS IN PROCESS. ERECTION OF THE TOWER IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 28TH OF JULY. IT WILL BE VERY QUICK. THEY'LL PROBABLY FINISH IN ONE, MAYBE TWO DAYS. AFTER THAT, WE'LL INSTALL A SECURITY FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. HERE YOU SEE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE LEFT. YOU SEE THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION AND THE STEEL FORMS STILL IN PLACE. ON THE RIGHT, THE FOOTING WAS COVERED WITH DIRT AND THE STEEL FORMS WERE REMOVED. NEXT PHOTOGRAPH. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.
THE LANDSCAPING WAS RESTORED AND ALL YOU SEE ARE THE TOPS OF THE CONCRETE COLUMNS. HOWARD.
LOW PEDESTRIAN PATH IS IN THE PLANNING PHASE. THIS WAS OUR 2023 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
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PROJECT. WE RECEIVED A TEXT TEXT OUT UPDATE LAST WEEK, AND THEY SAID THAT THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, DFA, WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE AUSTIN OFFICE OF TEXDOT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST IN ANTICIPATION OF THE FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR STARTING ON OCTOBER THE 1ST. THIS IS A 100% GRANT FUNDED PROJECT VALUED AT $2,270,000. DILLY DALLY AND TRANSIT PLAZA. THIS IS IN THE 60% DESIGN PLANS. THE PLANS WERE DELIVERED TO HORIZON CITY LAST MONTH. THE FULL SET IS DUE BY FEBRUARY 2027, WITH AN ANTICIPATED DATE OF OCTOBER 15TH, 2027. THAT'S FISCAL YEAR 2028. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS IN PROCESS WITH ATKINS REALS. LAND SURVEYS ARE COMPLETE AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE IS DUE FOR COMPLETION BY FEBRUARY OF 2027. THIS IS WHAT THE FOOTPRINT WILL LOOK LIKE. IT'S ROUGHLY A 2.8 ACRE TRACT OF LAND. ON THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE THE LOCATION OF THE TRANSIT PLAZA. THESE RENDERINGS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE TRANSIT PLAZA WILL LOOK LIKE. I THINK THAT THESE RENDERINGS WERE APPROVED DURING THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE DISCUSSION WITH THE DESIGNERS TO SEE IF WE CAN MODIFY THESE. ON THE TOP. ON THIS SLIDE YOU SEE ELEVATIONS AND ELEVATION IS A FANCY WORD THAT ARCHITECTS USE. AND THAT MEANS SIDE VIEW. SO THAT'S THE SIDE VIEW. LOOKING NORTH ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THE TRANSIT PLAZA.AND ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE LARGE CANOPY EXTENDING ALL THE WAY TO THE END. I WAS ASKED A FEW MONTHS AGO WHAT THE VANDAL RESISTANT RESTROOMS WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEY ARE LOW MAINTENANCE. ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT EVERYTHING IS WELL HUNG, AND THAT MAKES MOPPING AND CLEANING THE FLOOR A LITTLE BIT EASIER. WE ALSO SEE TILE GOING UP ABOUT FIVE FEET. THAT TILE IS EASY TO CLEAN. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT WE ALSO SEE. I THINK IT GOT.
BACK. SO I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ELEVATION, THE SIDE VIEW OF THE ONE OF THE TYPICAL RESTROOMS. THE MIRROR WILL CONSIST OF HIGHLY POLISHED METAL TO MAKE IT NICE AND REFLECTIVE. ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU SEE AN ELEVATION SIDE VIEW OF WHAT THE BREAK ROOM WOULD LOOK LIKE. STARTING ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE MILLWORK, CABINETRY, AND THE METAL. YOU HAVE A SINK. TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, YOU HAVE A PLACE FOR A MICROWAVE AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE A PLACE FOR REFRIGERATOR. THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN AT THE 60% DESIGN PHASE. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 2355FTā !S, TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF 92. AND IT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF THE FINAL PLAN. FOR EXAMPLE, THE FINAL PLAN. WE ORDERED A INTERNET CAFE ALONG THE AREA WHERE THE BREAK ROOM IS. EXCUSE ME, WHERE THE LOBBY IS, AND THAT WASN'T SHOWN HERE, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT DONE. NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION TEX.FM 1281.
IT'S IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. TEX DOT REPORTS THAT THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 62.39% COMPLETE FOR CONSTRUCTION, AND APPROXIMATELY 82.3% COMPLETE FOR TIME. AND IF YOU NOTICE, THIS IS THE SAME SPLIT THAT THEY REPORTED LAST WEEK. AND THAT MEANS THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING VERY, VERY SLOW FOR LAST MONTH. THE UPDATED COMPLETION DATE REMAINS AUGUST 27TH, 2027.
WITH REGARD TO THE EMERGENCY CROSSOVER DRIVEWAY APPROVED BY TGS ON MAY THE 18TH, THERE HAS BEEN NO ACTIVITY ON THAT SO FAR. WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO GO. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1600 LINEAR FEET TO THE END OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE. WE CONTINUE COORDINATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS. WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JULY THE 25TH.
THE TWO MAJOR ITEMS OF DISCUSSION DURING OUR PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE AN UPDATE FOR NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION AND AN UPDATE ON THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE MAILBOX ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD. WE'RE HAVING THE UNITED STATES POSTAL OFFICE RECOMMENDS AND PREFERS THE INSTALLATION OF TWO CBUS, AND THAT STANDS FOR CLUSTER BOX UNITS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. WE'LL ALSO OFFER THEM RESIDENTS GIVE RESIDENTS AN OFFER FOR ROADSIDE
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MAILBOXES. THAT'S THE ONE SHOWN ON THE RIGHT. AND OUR THIRD OPTION FOR RESIDENTS WILL BE TO PICK UP THEIR MAIL AT THE POST OFFICE ON GEORGE DIETER. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR MAILBOXES ON THE LEFT. YOU SEE THAT DECORATIVE MAILBOX FURTHER ON IN THE LEFT PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER MAILBOX, AND THAT'S A PLAIN LOOKING MAILBOX. THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH DARRINGTON AND JASPER, AND THAT SHOWS YOU A TYPICAL MAILBOX. ACTUALLY TWO IF YOU LOOK FURTHER INTO THE PHOTO. PROGRESS UPDATES ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH DARRINGTON AND ALDERWOOD MANOR. ROSLYN. THIS WAS AN UPDATE TO THE PHOTO THAT I SHOWED YOU LAST MONTH. LAST MONTH IT WAS JUST A GIANT HOLE WITH A BIG PILE OF DIRT NEXT TO IT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE UTILITY CONFLICTS WERE TAKEN CARE OF, AND THE AREA HAS BEEN FILLED IN. ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE TOP OF 236 INCH REINFORCED CONCRETE PIPES ARE SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA. TEX-DOT TRANSITION FROM A PIPE STORM SEWER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM TO A VERY LARGE BOX CULVERT. AND IN THIS AREA WHERE I'VE GOT THE POINTER. YOU CAN SEE THE START OF THE BOX CULVERT. THESE NEXT PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW IT NICELY. ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THE BOX CULVERT LOOKING NORTH. AND THAT ALSO SHOWS YOU GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE UTILITY CONFLICTS THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE CARE OF. THE RED PIPE MEANS ELECTRICITY. THE YELLOW PIPE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S SANITARY SEWER. THE GRAY PIPES ON THE RIGHT THAT THOSE ARE WATER AND ELECTRICAL TELECOMMUNICATION PIPES THAT HAD TO BE REMOVED. AND ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BOX CULVERT. THEY'RE ALSO DOING SOME TOUCH UPS ON NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH HORIZON BOULEVARD. HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME CONCRETE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE FORMED AND POURED. AND THEY ALSO CONTINUE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF ILLUMINATION POLES. ON THE RIGHT PHOTOGRAPH, YOU SEE AN ILLUMINATION POLE THAT WAS JUST INSTALLED RIGHT NEXT TO THE POWER LINES THAT EL PASO ELECTRIC HAS IN THE AREA THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THOSE MOVED. AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. I'LL BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S A IT'S A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO THIS, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. BEFORE I TAKE QUESTIONS, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE RENDERING OF THE THE TOD. YES, SIR. I WANT TO SEE THAT FLOOR PLAN OR THE ACTUAL RENDERING ITSELF OF THE OF THE FACILITY RIGHT THERE. SO JUST TO CLARIFY TO COUNCIL, WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED THIS, I HAD REQUESTED THAT THE DESIGN BE FOCUSED ON A DESIGN THAT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS BUILDING ITSELF. OKAY. SO WE'D LIKE TO STAY WITH THIS STYLE, I THINK. AND WHEN, WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS, THE, THE FIRST THING THAT SHOT TO MIND WAS WHAT IS THE COST? BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AT MULTIPLE LIGHTING FIXTURES, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAINTENANCE DOWN THE LINE. ALTHOUGH THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, I KNOW THAT THE COST IS PROBABLY VERY HIGH IN COMPARISON TO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO BEFORE THIS ISN'T THE FINAL PLAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING COST IN MIND, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A NICE FACILITY, BUT THIS PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO BE THE FINAL DESIGN THAT COUNCIL THAT THAT IS IN FINAL CONSTRUCTION.OKAY. JUST JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ANYTHING IN ANYTHING LIKE ME, THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT WAS, WOW, THAT'S NICE. BUT MAN, THAT'S ALSO PRETTY EXPENSIVE TOO, I IMAGINE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH THAT COUNCIL THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. OKAY. RECEIVE SOME QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS REGARDING THESE RENDERINGS. ONE QUESTION WAS HOW THICK IS THE CANOPY? AND THE CANOPY IS DESIGNED AT FOUR FEET THICK, WITH ANOTHER FOOT ADDED TO THE TOP FOR ESTHETICS. SO IT'LL BE FIVE FEET THICK. THANK YOU AGAIN. AFTER THAT CLARIFICATION. CLARIFICATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THIS BUILDING HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN
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TURNED OVER TO US. CORRECT. OFFICIALLY DELIVERED. DOES THE SIDEWALK IS THAT CONSIDERED PART OF THIS BUILDING, OR IS THAT PART OF THE DARRINGTON PROJECT? THE SIDEWALK ON THIS SIDE THAT'S WITHIN TEX DOT'S RIGHT OF WAY, OR THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY? IT IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT IS THE PROGRESS ON. SPECIFICALLY? THERE'S A SECTION OF SIDEWALK ON THIS SIDE THAT'S MAYBE ABOUT FIVE, TEN FEET THAT'S BEEN TORN UP. THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT PART OF THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN HEADING TOWARDS HORIZON BOULEVARD. SO IF YOU ARE ON A WHEELCHAIR OR YOU'RE GOING FOR A WALK, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, YOU HAVE TO JUMP ONTO THE STREET, WHICH IS ALSO NOT COMPLETED OR NARROWED DOWN TO TWO LANES, WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED UNSAFE FOR SOMEBODY WHO, AGAIN, MIGHT BE WHEELCHAIR BOUND. IS THERE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT? YES, SIR. TEX DOT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE SIDEWALK FOR PEDESTRIANS TO FOLLOW, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT SIDEWALK IS FOLLOWING THE DETOUR ALONG JASPER ROSLYN GOING DOWN TO HOMESTEAD BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A CONNECTION. I DON'T SEE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. I WALKED IT JUST LAST WEEK AND THERE WAS NO WAY FOR ME TO GET FROM ACROSS THAT PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT WHERE IT GOT TORN DOWN. IS THIS THE, THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE THE, THIS BUILDING ON THE POLICE SITE ON. YEAH. ON THAT SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY. THAT DRIVEWAY, THE ENTRANCE TO THE THE FACILITY OVER ON THAT SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OF THE MUNICIPAL FACILITY ITSELF, I THINK THEY THEY REMOVED THAT. SO THAT WAY THEY COULD FOR THE UTILITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CUT ACROSS. CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THE. IS THAT THE LOCATION? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. THAT SECTION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY FROM GETTING AN UPDATE FROM TEXDOT TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE EXPECT TO REPLACE THAT SIDEWALK. YES. SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT FOR THEM TO FINISH THIS PROJECT. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ABOUT 1600 LINEAR FEET, BUT THEY'RE GOING SO SLOW, SO I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS. I'LL MENTION IT TO THEM AND GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU A RESOLUTION SOMETIME SOON. SO IT TAKES THAT CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT PROVIDING AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR PEDESTRIAN FLOW. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT PEDESTRIAN ROUTE IS. EXACTLY. YEAH. MY NEXT QUESTION PERTAINS TO THE MAILBOXES. I THINK ON YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THERE'S THREE OPTIONS. YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME WITH THE THE AFTERBURNERS JETS JUST KICKED ON. I KNOW THAT AT ONE OF THE LAST TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WE WERE SUSPECTING THAT THE POST OFFICE WAS GOING TO DO AN ALL OR NOTHING OPTION EITHER. ALL COMMUNITY, I THINK WHAT YOU CALL THEM CBUS CLUSTER BOXES, CLUSTER BOX UNITS OR INDIVIDUAL MAILBOXES, IS THAT STILL THEIR POSITION? THEIR POSITION IS 100% APPROVAL OF ANY OF THE ONE OPTIONS. THE US POST OFFICE PREFERS THE INSTALLATION OF THE CLUSTER BOX UNITS. IF WE CHOOSE THE CLUSTER BOX UNITS, THEN THEY WILL PAY FOR THE UNITS AND HORIZON CITY WILL PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION AND THE FOUNDATION. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DECISION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE. OR ARE THE CITIZENS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE WANT OUR INDIVIDUAL MAILBOXES. THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE IDENTIFIED 35 IMPACTED RESIDENTS, AND THOSE 35 ARE THE ONES WHO WILL HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY. AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE ON AGREEMENT. YES, SIR. SO THEY IT'S EITHER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. GOT IT. AND IF THEY DO CHOOSE THE INDIVIDUAL BOXES, THEY ARE. THE CONSTRAINT IS TO USE THAT SPECIFIC BOX. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT SLIDE, IF YOU CAN MOVE TO THAT SLIDE PLEASE.THERE YOU GO. SO THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT GO BACK GO BACK. THERE YOU GO. THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT THERE, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE INDIVIDUAL BOX THAT EACH THAT WOULD BE REPLACED FROM HERE ON OUT. OKAY. AND BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY HAS VERY PERSONALIZED MAILBOXES.
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BUT SO THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP CONTINUITY ALONG WITH THE LAMPS THAT WE HAVE GOING UP ALONG HORIZON BOULEVARD. EVERYBODY WOULD THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY MAILBOX THAT WE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ALLOWING ON DARRINGTON DURING THAT POINT. IF THEY DECIDE TO GO WITH INDIVIDUAL, DECIDE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. IF NOT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A 100% AGREEMENT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL OR 100% AGREEMENT FOR THE CLUSTER BOXES, OR 100% AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE DRIVING TO GEORGE DIETER TO GET YOUR MAIL. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS.YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. IF THERE IS NOT A CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS, THAT COMES ABOUT, THEN NOW THE CITY AND THE POST OFFICE WILL HAVE TO COME TO SOME TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT TO. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DECIDE ONE OF THE THREE. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION PERTAINS TO THE ELECTRICAL LINES. I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE ELECTRIC COMPANY TO DECIDE TO MOVE THOSE, THOSE LINES TO TELL US WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. THERE WERE FIVE LINES THAT WERE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH OUR PROPOSED SHARED USE PATH. THEY WERE TOO FAR IN. AND SO THOSE FIVE DO HAVE TO BE RELOCATED. BUT WE WOULD PREFER THAT THE ELECTRIC COMPANY JUST REMOVE THOSE FIVE. SO WE WALKED THE SITE AND COUNTED A TOTAL OF 22 POLES AND ELECTRIC COMPANY.
THEY'VE GOT A POLICY THAT THEY'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 150FT OF HORIZONTAL SPACING FOR THE SPAN OF ONE OF THEIR ELECTRICAL LINES. SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE AT LEAST THOSE FIVE, BUT IT'S REALLY UP TO THE ELECTRIC COMPANY TO LET US KNOW. OKAY, SO THEY HAVEN'T SAID NO, THEY JUST HAVEN'T. THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR US TO SAY WHEN.
THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WERE WAITING FOR THE PLANS FROM TEX DOT TEX DOT PROVIDED THOSE PLANS FOR THEM ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. I WANT TO SAY MAYBE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS. AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR DESIGN TO SEE HOW THEY CAN ADJUST THESE POLES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND TO CLARIFY THAT POINT, THEY WILL BE MOVING THE POLES ON RYDERWOOD. THE POLES ON RYDERWOOD ARE INSTALLED DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK ON THE RYDERWOOD. SO THEY DID AGREE TO MOVE THOSE INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE. BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF THE PONDING THERE IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO THEY'LL HAVE TO RESOLVE THAT, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE THOSE POLES OVER. SO THAT WAY NOW THAT SIDEWALK WOULD BE FREE OF ANY POLES OR ANY OBSTRUCTIONS THERE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. NOW, WE ALSO TALKED DURING THAT WALKTHROUGH. I, I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT COMPLETELY REMOVING THE POLES THEY HAD AND GOING SUBSURFACE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF LINE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'VE INSTALLED, THEY, THEY CANNOT GO SUBSURFACE WITH THAT SIZE LINE. THAT IS A. I DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER THE TERMINOLOGY HE USED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FEEDER, IT'S THE SIZE OF FEEDER THAT. THAT IS. THAT'S WHY THEY WENT AHEAD AND INSTALLED THOSE LINES. BUT AS, AS AS, AS JESSIE HAD HAD MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING AT REMOVING SOME OF THEM. SO THAT WAY THEY COULD EXPAND THE SPAN. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE REMOVAL OF SOME OF THOSE POLES IN KEY AREAS. BUT AS FAR AS REMOVING THEM COMPLETELY, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION. YES, SIR. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. QUESTIONS OVER HERE, MR. ALDERMAN. YOU SURE? OKAY. YES, SIR. I DO APPRECIATE IT. IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON, SIR? IT IS ON. I'M JUST NOT CLOSE ENOUGH. MR. SANCHEZ, AS FAR AS THE MAILBOXES, THE 25TH IS THE MEETING FOR THE DECISION MAKING, CORRECT? SATURDAY THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH. SO, WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF NONE OF THE RESIDENTS SHOW UP, WHO MAKES THE DECISION AS TO WHICH ONE GETS PAID OR PICKED? FINAL DECISION WILL BE MADE BY THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE.
IF IN CASE THE RESIDENTS DON'T SHOW UP, IF WE CANNOT COME UP TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION OURSELVES. GOT IT. AND AS FAR AS THE 35 RESIDENTS, THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS MEETING ON THE 25TH, WE HOPEFULLY THEY'RE WATCHING TODAY. WE'VE PREPARED MAILERS. WE HAVEN'T SENT THEM OUT. WE WILL SEND THEM OUT TOMORROW. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WALK FOR THESE 35 THE ENTIRE AREA ON THIS FRIDAY. ALL. WE'RE HOPING THAT ALL. WE HAVE A GOOD ATTENDANCE AS FAR AS THE 35. THIS WAY WE CAN HONOR THEIR PREFERENCE. AS FAR AS MAIL. A SECOND ISSUE OR CONCERN, I THOUGHT HORIZON PD WAS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH EAST AND WEST BOUND LANES ON DARRINGTON. ON THAT SIDE, I THINK WE COVERED A LITTLE BIT ON THE SIDEWALK, BUT THE MEDIAN, I THINK THE CURBS ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY CROSSOVER THAT WAS APPROVED. YES. SO IT WAS CONSTRUCTED ACCORDING TO PLANS. RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE NOT PRICED THE REMODELING. WE CAN CALLT. THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR STILL HAS NOT SUBMITTED THAT TO
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TXDOT. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO BREAK WHAT'S CONSTRUCTED ALREADY TO BUILD A NEW CROSSOVER. AND WE'RE ALSO KEEPING HORIZON PD INFORMED AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING, AS WELL AS ANYONE ELSE THAT NEEDS TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION. YES, SIR. ACTUALLY, WE WERE JUST UPDATED BY TXDOT A FEW DAYS AGO, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CHIEF VARGAS HAS HAD AN UPDATE ON THIS CONSTRUCTION FOR THEIR EMERGENCY CROSSOVER. EXCELLENT.YES, I WILL SAY THAT THEY'RE THE FIRST ONES TO ASK. CHIEF IS THE FIRST ONE TO ASK FOR UPDATES. SO YEAH, THEY HAVE THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MR. YES, SIR. THIS PROJECT IS TRAVELING AT TXDOT SPEED, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO HURRY UP AND WAIT. UNFORTUNATELY. THANKS AGAIN. THANK YOU, SIR. ALDERMAN. MR. SANCHEZ, COULD YOU JUST EXPAND? GOSH, THAT WAS LOUD. COULD YOU JUST EXPAND ON, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A SCENARIO IN WHICH WE CAN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS, RIGHT? YOU'RE TELLING US THAT USPS HAS THE FINAL SAY. IS THERE A HYBRID OPTION AVAILABLE TO US IF RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF THEM WANTED THEY PREFERRED THE SINGLE MAILBOXES, WHILE OTHERS PREFER TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE CLUSTER BOX. IS THAT AN OPTION AVAILABLE TO US OR. NO, POSTAL SERVICE HAS NOT PROVIDED, HAS NOT SUBMITTED A HYBRID OPTION FOR US, BUT THEY'VE JUST TOLD US THAT THEIR PREFERENCE IS THE CLUSTER BOX UNITS. OKAY. AND THEN REGARDING HORIZON BOULEVARD, I KNOW THIS WASN'T ON OUR CIP UPDATE. ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO BETTER SMOOTH OUT THOSE DRIVEWAYS HERE FOR THE COMMERCIAL PLAZAS? I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MORE OR LESS COMPLETE, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS SMOOTH AS THEY CAN BE. YOU STILL HAVE TO COME TO SOMEWHAT OF AN ABRUPT STOP TO THEN GO AHEAD AND ACCESS THOSE DRIVEWAYS. I'VE SEEN THAT. IN FACT, JUST YESTERDAY A PERSON WAS DRIVING INTO ONE OF THOSE AND TURNED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, AND I ALMOST HIT THEM, AND THEY SLOWED DOWN PRETTY QUICKLY TO SO THAT THEY WON'T HIT THAT BUMP VERY FAST, SO THAT THOSE DRIVEWAYS ARE IN THEIR FINAL CONFIGURATION. BUT WE WILL CONTACT TEXDOT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN COORDINATE WITH TEXDOT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE IN CONSTRUCTION MODE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE DRIVEWAYS SMOOTHED OUT. I'M JUST SO THAT THEY'RE SAFER FOR THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDES FOR THE TRANSIT PLAZA? YES, SIR. THIS ONE. SO HERE JUST RIGHT HERE, THE TOTAL CAPACITY IS 92 OCCUPANTS. IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING? YES. YOU KNOW, WHEN LOOKING AT THE WAY THE FLOOR PLAN IS CONFIGURED, IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY, I GUESS, STAFF. RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE BREAK ROOM.
YOU HAVE THE OFFICE SPACE, CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOU KNOW, RESTROOMS. SINCE WE'RE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE, IS THERE A WAY TO EXPAND IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THE WAITING AREA? YES, SIR. WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY THIS DESIGN. AND DO WE HAVE THE OCCUPANCY NUMBER FOR, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN FIT IN THAT 838FTā !S? OCCUPANCY IS DETERMINED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S BASED UPON GROSS FLOOR AREA. SO IF WE MAKE THE LOBBY LARGER, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT MORE PEOPLE INTO IT. AND THEN COULD WE GO TO THE HOWARD LOWE SLIDE? I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I THINK ON THAT SLIDE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT REGARDING THE OCCUPANCY, I THINK THOSE NUMBERS ARE ON THERE FOR THE OCCUPANCY FOR EACH AREA. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, SIR? YEAH. SO IF I'M AT 839 SQUARE FOOT WAITING AREA, I'M READING 56. IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE STORAGE ROOM SAYS ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER. AND SAME THING FOR THE TOILETS. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE THE OCCUPANCY NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. AVILA. I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLAN, I'M PICTURING, LET'S SAY IT'S A RAINY DAY AND, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE. I KNOW IT'S NOT HERE IN THE PLAN, BUT WHAT DO WE CALL IT? CYBER CAFE, RIGHT? ON DAYS LIKE THAT, IF IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A BIGGER SPACE FOR THE TRAVELING PUBLIC, CONSIDERING THAT ONCE THIS IS BUILT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO THEN GO AHEAD AND BUILD AN EXPANDED VERSION OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLAZA JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, VALENCIA, WE'RE BRINGING IN 2400 HOMES. WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE OUR POPULATION SINCE WE'RE IN THE PLANNING PHASE, TO SEE THAT BE A PART OF A
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CONSIDERATION FOR THE CITY. YES, SIR. IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I CAN REQUEST FROM THE DESIGNER TO EXPAND THE LOBBY. COUNCIL'S AWARE. THIS IS THE SECOND ITERATION. THIRD ITERATION OF THIS OF THIS LAYOUT. WHEN THEY INITIALLY BROUGHT IT TO US, WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED THE LOBBY TO WHAT IT IS NOW. WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROBABLY 2 OR 3 TIMES WITH THE DESIGNERS THEY HAD. SO THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY HAD HAS SOME CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE RESTROOMS. WE ACTUALLY ADDED A THIRD RESTROOM IN THERE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S TWO RESTROOMS IN THE BACK OFFICES FOR DRIVERS. AND THEN THAT PUBLIC RESTROOM UP IN THE FRONT IS MORE FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST MALE FEMALE COMBO, RIGHT? SO THIS WAS CHANGED. WE ACTUALLY THE BREAK ROOM, THE OFFICE WAS ACTUALLY SHORTENED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR MORE DESK SPACE. SO THESE DESKS, THIS DESK HERE ON THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE LOBBY, THOSE CHAIRS AND DESKS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ALONG THE WALL FOR, FOR WITH OUTLETS FOR COMPUTERS OR FOR CHARGERS. BUT THEY WERE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT ETA REQUESTED FOR THIS FACILITY ITSELF. THERE WAS AN ACTUAL I.T. ROOM. WE REMOVED THAT IT ROOM BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T NEED A FULL CLOSET ROOM WHEN THEY'RE ONLY PUTTING IN A SMALL I.T. RACK, THEY COULD DO THAT UP ON THE TOP OF THE OF THE STORAGE OF THE STORAGE ROOM. SO WE REMOVED THAT. SO WE'VE KIND OF SQUEEZED AS MUCH AS WE CAN. AND ON DAYS WITH INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE DO HAVE THAT ENTIRE PORTION OF THE OF THE STATION ITSELF THAT'S COVERED AS A COVERED PATIO, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY AN AWNING, EXTENDED AWNING OUT. SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT. BUT WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE AT 60% AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WHAT ETA ASKS FOR. AND AT THE SAME TIME, ALLOWING FOR MORE ROOM FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS TO BE HERE. BUT WE MAY NEED TO GET TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MONEY THAT'S TIED UP. AND ONCE WE GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION AT SOME TIME. BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAYBE WE CAN REMOVE SOME OF THIS OR SHORTEN SOME OF THIS, JUST TO ADD SOME MORE SOME MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT LINE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. OUR PRELIMINARY DIRECTIVE TO THE DESIGNER WAS TO MAKE THIS FLOOR PLAN AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. AND IF YOU RECALL, THE ORIGINAL ITERATIONS HAD A HALLWAY THAT LOOPED AROUND THE ENTIRE STAFF AREA. AND SO WE REMOVED THOSE HALLWAYS. AND NOW WE JUST HAVE ONE ACROSS THE MIDDLE SO THAT WE CAN REUSE THAT SPACE EFFICIENTLY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. MR. SANCHEZ, COULD WE MOVE ON TO. AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLY LIKE TO DEVELOP OUR OWN GROUNDS CREW WITH. THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU SAID SIX ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS. YES, SIR. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE? IS IT TO DEVELOP OUR OWN GROUND CREW OR TO CONTINUE CONTRACTING THAT WORK? YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF SIX SALARY, SIX HEALTH CARE PACKAGES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR OUTSOURCING COSTS FOR THAT.OUTSOURCING HAS ITS BENEFITS AND ITS COSTS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T HAVE TO IF WE OUTSOURCE, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE COMPUTERS AND OFFICE SPACE HEATING, COOLING, INCREASE IN UTILITY COSTS. BUT WE DO HAVE TO PAY USUALLY AN EXPENSIVE COST, A HIGH COST FOR THESE OUTSOURCED EMPLOYEES. ART, WOULD YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING FOR OUTSOURCING OUR GROUNDS CREW? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE YES SIR, FOR FOR FOR ALBERT. AND SO THESE ARE AGAIN, THESE ARE TALKS THAT I'VE HAD WITH STAFF. WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A VIABLE OPTION FOR US TO START OUR OWN DEPARTMENTS HERE. WE'RE A GROWING COMMUNITY. WE'RE GROWING CITY. SO OUR STAFF HAS TO GROW AS WELL. SO IS IT. AND BECAUSE WE'RE A GROWING COMMUNITY, WE HAVE MORE PARKS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND MAINTAINED, MORE PARKS, MORE STREETS. SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO IMPLEMENT A NEW DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION FOR THE CITY OR TO CONTINUE OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO TO STILL PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE. SO WE'RE AT THAT, THAT, I GUESS, FORK IN THE ROAD RIGHT NOW
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WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR. SO THIS BUILDING ITSELF, THIS PHASE TWO BUILDING, IS ALSO A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO, TO PRICE OUT AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS, WHERE ARE WE AS A CITY AND DO WE NEED THIS FACILITY, THIS PHASE TWO. SO I HAD, I HAD DIRECTED MR. SANCHEZ AND MR. RUBIO TO START LOOKING AT PRICING AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR US TO DO THIS, BECAUSE WE DO NEED STORAGE, WE DO NEED MORE OFFICES, AND THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT A NEW DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THOSE ANSWERS YET. BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PARKS AND ROADS TO TAKE CARE OF. NOW, IT WASN'T A WE WERE A SLEEPY TOWN A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, BUT WE'RE NOT A SLEEPY TOWN ANYMORE, SO WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. SO AS, AS WE COME TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL, THEN I'LL MAKE SURE TO LET YOU ALL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. SO THAT WAY YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S COST EFFECTIVE, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR STARTING A NEW DEPARTMENT, OR GO AHEAD AND MOVING FORWARD, AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE WE'RE WEIGHING THOSE TWO OPTIONS, RIGHT? JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO MAKE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE DECISION. AND THEN JUST ONE LAST THING, MR. SANCHEZ. I KNOW THIS WASN'T ON OUR CIP REPORT. ARE THERE ANY UPDATES FOR THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS TO BOTH SAVIO PARK AND PARK? AND IF NOT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO PROVIDE THAT AT NEXT MEETING. NEXT COUNCIL'S MEETING, WE ARE REVIEWING THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE WE WILL PROCEED WITH PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE. IT JUST DEPENDS UPON WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS SUBMITTED TO US. I HAVEN'T SEEN NO SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS YET, BUT THEY ARE ON OUR CALENDAR FOR REVIEW. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. SANCHEZ. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM. MAYOR'S POINT REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW DEPARTMENT. THOSE DECISIONS ARE USUALLY MADE ON BENEFIT COST RATIOS. WE ARE STARTING FEASIBILITY STUDIES TO SEE WHETHER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S USUALLY A TIPPING POINT ASSOCIATED WITH OUTSOURCING SERVICES. THAT WILL COME A POINT WHERE THE CITY IS GROWING ENOUGH TO WHERE OUTSOURCING WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A HOMEGROWN DEPARTMENT.SO WE'LL BE TAKING APPLICATIONS. COUNCIL IS INTERESTED. I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME NICE GARDENS, SO THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS PRESENTATION. SO MOVE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR MENDOZA AND A SECOND FROM ALDERMAN AVILA. PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. KIDDOS. ORTEGA.
AVILA. AMES. GARCIA. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. IF WE
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COULD MOVE ON TO WHERE ARE WE? 13, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 13. THIS IS ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HORIZON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO EXPEND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE WITHIN HORIZON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S OFFICES.GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, EDDIE GARCIA WITH THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. SO THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST TO PAY FOR THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER OFFICE WITHIN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OUR FACILITY OF OUR BUILDING, WE HAVE A 2000 402,500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT'S IN OUR BYLAWS, WHEN THIS THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY CREATED THE EDC, IS ANYTHING OVER $5,000 WE NEED TO BRING TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT. AND SO YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IN THESE DISCUSSIONS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY. IT'S A RAPIDLY GROWING CITY. AND SO WITH THAT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR OFFICES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST BOUGHT THEM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THERE IN THE SLIDES, THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR. HAVING MORE OFFICE SPACE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WHEN, WHEN WE VACATED THE OTHER BUILDING, WHEN THE CITY VACATED THE OTHER BUILDINGS, WE TOOK ON ALL OF THE CHAIRS THAT YOU ALL HAD IN THERE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE
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FINDING OUT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE SPACE IN THERE TO SET THESE CHAIRS UP. BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS THAT THE AREA HAS BECOME A LITTLE UNKEMPT, YOU KNOW, SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE SLOPPY. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK KEPT AS IT WAS BEFORE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING MORE CHAIRS IN THERE. WE HAVE TO STACK THEM AND THEY'RE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE VISITORS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO THAT AS AN EBC, WE'RE BRINGING MEMBERS OF CCIM. WE'RE BRINGING THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, HAVING THEM COME TO HORIZON CITY, PROVIDING THEM LUNCH SO THAT WE CAN SHOWCASE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLACE LOOKS NEAT. YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICES LOOK NEAT.AND SO THIS SPACE THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING, ITS APPROXIMATELY 80FTā !S, IT'S EIGHT BY TEN. AND TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT IN THERE TO SECURE OUR FILES, TO SECURE THE CHAIRS SO THEY'RE NOT OUT VISIBLE TO, TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY A SPACE, YOU START TO ACQUIRE A LOT OF THINGS, RIGHT? AND SO WE NEED A SPACE TO PUT THOSE IN. AND SO WE, WE WENT OUT THERE, WE LOOKED FOR THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES. WE WENT TO THREE CONTRACTORS. THEY ALL CAME IN ABOUT $8,000, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ASKING FOR $10,000 BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN ADDITIONAL OUTLET, MORE LIGHTS. YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING TO MOVE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS THERE. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A HUGE AMOUNT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 87, $8,000. AND SO WHAT WE'RE OPTING FOR RIGHT NOW IS THE $8,000 AND 58,050 CONTRACTOR THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED THERE. THERE IS A CONTRACTOR THAT CAME IN A LITTLE LOWER, BUT HE'S NOT PROVIDING US WITH THE HIGHER CEILINGS SO THAT IT MATCHES WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICES RIGHT NOW. AND SO AGAIN, IT JUST ENHANCES THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE EDC. AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING SO MANY VISITORS BECAUSE AS YOU ALL, AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, HORIZON CITY IS GROWING. WE HAVE MORE RETAIL. WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE RETAIL. WE HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL SPACES THAT ARE VACANT RIGHT NOW, AND WE WANT THE REST OF THE CITY TO COME DOWN SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM WHAT WE CALL A FAM TOUR. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE THEM BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN HORIZON CITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY DON'T COME DOWN HERE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE NEED THE OFFICE SPACE TO DO IT. AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR OFFICES. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR AN UP TO $10,000 EXPENDITURE. WE KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE BIDS CAME IN AT IS ABOUT $8,000. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT TO THAT. IF THERE AREN'T ANY ISSUES WHEN WE ACTUALLY START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW OFFICE SPACE WITHIN OUR BUILDING. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. MR. GARCIA, DURING CONSTRUCTION, HOW WOULD OFFICE OPERATIONS BE AFFECTED? IT WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE LET ME SEE IF I'VE GOT A PICTURE HERE, ACTUALLY. OH, ACTUALLY, COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE. I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S THE CORNER. SO THIS IS THAT LITTLE CORNER THAT YOU SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE AREA THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING IN. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S JUST AN EMPTY SPACE THERE THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD FILL IN, YOU KNOW, BUT THE ISSUE WITH THIS AREA IS THAT IT HAS A LIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE TO MOVE IT OUT. AND THERE'S, AND THE INTAKE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE THAT'S DISTRIBUTING THE AIR THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S COMING UP THERE IN PRICE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE FLOW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE WALLS ARE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CEILING. AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT. AND SO THAT'S A LITTLE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE THINK IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. NO. OKAY. MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM ALDERMAN QUIROZ.
SECOND AND A SECOND. HE JUST BEAT YOU ALDERWOMAN. I'M SORRY. ALDERMAN ORTEGA, SECOND FROM ALDERMAN ORTEGA, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. QUIROZ. ORTEGA. AVILA, I AIMS I.
GARCIA. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU. SIR. ITEM NUMBER 14.
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THIS IS TO RATIFY A RESOLUTION TO DECLARE THE ITEMS LISTED ON ATTACHMENT A TO THE RESOLUTION AS A SURPLUS PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZE THE TOWN FINANCE DIRECTOR TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF SAID ITEMS TO OTHER UNITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE APPLICABLE STATE LAW. TO CERTIFY CONTINUING PUBLIC PURPOSE AND BENEFIT OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY.[00:50:36]
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE THE JETS KICKED IN AGAIN, RIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU. YES. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL LILLY GAITAN, FINANCE DIRECTOR. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE RESOLUTION TO DISPOSE OF SOME ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FOUND TO BE OF NO LONGER USE FOR THE NEW FACILITY AT THE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE ITEMS ARE FULLY DEPRECIATED AND WE HAVE GIVEN. WE HAD ALREADY GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ABSORB SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE LIST ARE. AFTER EVERYBODY CAME IN AND SAID, I WANT THIS, I, YOU KNOW, I CAN USE THAT AND SO FORTH. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT ALSO MEANT THAT WE TRADED IN SOME ITEMS. SO THEY BROUGHT OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY IN PLACE OF THE ONES THAT THEY TOOK. SO WE GAINED A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. THE ITEMS WILL BE DONATED TO OTHER LOCAL ENTITIES THAT ARE AND ARE TRANSFERRED AS AND AS IS CONDITION. AND I HAVE A FEW PICTURES TO SHOW YOU JUST SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. THIS IS WHAT WAS THE COURTS AREA FOR CASHIERING AND THE COURT STAFF. SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME DESKS AND FILE CABINETS. THAT BROWNE ITEM ON THE LEFT SIDE IS ACTUALLY A CUBICLE WITH A WORKSTATION. AND. GOT IT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS IS THE AREA WHERE DISPATCH IS. SO THIS IS THE OOPS. THAT WAS THE AREA FOR THE DISPATCHES. AND THEN THIS IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN ONE OF THE OFFICES AS WELL, THE WORKSTATION. AND THEN THIS IS A WORK TABLE THAT HAD LIKE FOUR STATIONS THAT YOU COULD USE. AND THEN THE HOLDING CELL. SO THOSE ARE PICTURES. LET'S SEE.I DID PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DISPOSE OF. WE DID HAVE TWO ENTITIES THAT CAME BY AND LOOKED AT THE ITEMS. WE HAD THE JEFF DAVIS COUNTY CAME BY AND THEY TOOK THE OLD ANTENNA, THE 30 FOOT ANTENNA THAT WE HAD FOR THIS FOR OUR DISPATCH COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THE TOWN OF ANTHONY CAME BY AND THEY TOOK ALL THE VISITOR CHAIRS THAT WE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS BUILDING, AND SOME COMPUTER MONITORS, A PRINTER AND A COMPUTER DESK. SO THEY TOOK QUITE A FEW ITEMS WE'RE WAITING ON TO HEAR FROM OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMING BY AND LOOKING AT THOSE ITEMS, AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN ABSORB THOSE IN INTO THEIR ENTITY. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO HEAR. BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN. I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE IN THE THE INTERWEB CAN HEAR. BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO HEAR BECAUSE OF THE AIR CONDITIONERS. BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? AND IF YOU NEED US TO TO GO OVER ANYTHING AGAIN, WE CAN GO OVER IT. I THOUGHT I HEARD THERE WAS ONLY ONE ENTITY THAT SHOWED UP WITH INTEREST. ACTUALLY TWO. OH, THERE WAS RIGHT. OKAY. AND ARE WE STILL WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE OR WE ARE. SO I REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE OF THE OTHER SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES, EXCUSE ME, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES HERE LOCALLY TO FIND OUT IF THEY WANTED TO COME OUT AND SEE WHAT WAS OF USE TO THEM, BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, SMALL MUNICIPALITIES, THEY HAVE THE HARDEST TIME RAISING MONEY OR EVEN THEIR BUDGETS ARE SO MUCH LOWER THAN EVEN OURS.
RIGHT. BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KIND OF HELP OUT OUR, OUR FELLOW, OUR FELLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES OUT HERE. AND IF THEY CAN USE IT, THEN WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET THEM TO, TO LET THEM COME ON BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE. AND AS FAR AS IS THERE A DEADLINE AS TO HOW FAST WE NEED TO MOVE? WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THIS MONTH. THE END OF THE MONTH. YES. YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY EXTENDED OUR LEASE ONE MONTH. OKAY. IN ORDER TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE THAT. SO WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THIS MONTH. AND THEN WHATEVER'S IN THAT BUILDING STAYS IN THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MISS GAITAN? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE SELLING TO
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OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. I'M SORRY. ARE WE SELLING THESE ITEMS? NO, WE'RE DONATING THEM TO THE OTHER LOCAL ENTITIES. WE'RE DONATING THEM. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. AND FOR. FOR ITEMS, I GUESS I HAVE GOOD LUCK. YEAH. FOR ITEMS THAT WE END UP NOT DONATING OR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ENTITIES END UP NOT PICKING UP. THEY'RE STAYING IN THE BUILDING. ARE WE ABLE TO SELL THEM OR ARE WE? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? WE COULD WE COULD SELL THEM. BUT IF THEY'RE OF NO USE REALLY TO ANOTHER ENTITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT. AND I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO ALDERWOMAN AIMS. THEY ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THAT DURING THEIR MOVE. SO IT WAS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO GET THE PUBLIC OUT. CORRECT. TO BE HONEST IT'S OFFICE FURNITURE AND NOT EVERYONE HAS AN OFFICE IN THEIR HOUSE OR WHATEVER OR HAVE USES FOR IT. WE FOUND OTHER ENTITIES, BUT WE STILL HAVE LEFTOVER FURNITURE FROM OUR MOVE THAT WE'RE. WHOEVER PURCHASES OUR BUILDING IS TAKING IT ALL BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S JUST NOT A HOT COMMODITY. SO, SO YEAH, SO WE WOULD PROBABLY, AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT LEFT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S SO THERE'S SOME DESKS, BUT IT'S REALLY ONLY FURNITURE THAT ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY WOULD USE. YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT IN YOUR LIVING ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IT'S BIG, BULKY FURNITURE THAT GOES INTO AN OFFICE BUILDING. YES, SIR. SO. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NOPE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY SECOND, A MOTION, ALDERMAN GARCIA, AND A SECOND BY MAYOR MENDOZA. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA I KIDDOS, I ORTEGA. AVILA. I AMES I I MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND OKAY, ON[15. Discussion and Action]
TO ITEM NUMBER 15. THIS IS ON A SETTING THE DATES FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, HEARING HEARINGS ON CITY BUDGET AND TAX RATE AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO PUBLISH A PROPOSED TAX RATE BASED ON THE FINAL BUDGET. THE RECOMMENDED DATE FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS AUGUST 4TH, 2026.THE DATE FOR THE BUDGET HEARING IS AUGUST 25TH, 2026, AND THE TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING IS SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026. ALL BUDGET RELATED MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE HELD AT 6 P.M. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL FINANCE DIRECTOR. AS AS MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETING ON FOR THE WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 4TH. AND ON AUGUST 25TH, WE'LL HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET. AND THEN ON THE 8TH OF SEPTEMBER, WE'LL ALSO WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AND THE FINAL VOTE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AS WELL. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF MEMBERS WERE AMENABLE TO MOVING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP EITHER THE WEEK BEFORE OR THE WEEK AFTER. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WEEK AFTER WE ALSO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF MEMBERS WOULD BE AMENABLE TO MOVING THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP. RIGHT. BUT THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC, I'M SORRY, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS. IS IT'S WORKABLE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN SCHEDULE. ACTUALLY, IT WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT US BECAUSE OUR FINAL NUMBERS FOR ON OUR TAX RATE DON'T COME OUT TILL THE 25TH. OH NO I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY THEY COME OUT ON AUGUST 7TH. THEY COME OUT AFTER THE THE AUGUST 4TH DATE, THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING. USUALLY THEY COME OUT RIGHT BEFORE, BUT WE GOT THE SCHEDULE THE OTHER DAY AND IT'S UNTIL AUGUST 7TH. THE 11TH. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE 11TH WE HAVE. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT ON OUR. OR CALL A SPECIAL MEETING THAT SECOND WEEK AFTER THE. WE RECEIVE THEM THE SEVENTH.
CORRECT. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. WE RECEIVED THE. ON THE 7TH OF AUGUST. THAT'S WHEN WE RECEIVE THEM. OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCILS ON THE 11TH. SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE 13TH OF AUGUST, BECAUSE THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A A LONG MEETING ON THE 11TH. IF WE DID THE 11TH.
ALDERMAN, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR YOU WANTING TO RESCHEDULE FROM AUGUST 4TH? I WON'T BE IN TOWN THAT WEEK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN BE HERE FOR THAT
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BUDGET HEARING. I THINK THE PROPOSAL IS TO MOVE IT TO THE FALL, TO THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, ISN'T IT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A LENGTHY MEETING FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO GO OVER ON OUR BUDGET. AND ASIDE FROM ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS USUALLY WHY WE HAVE IT ON A SPECIAL MEETING, ON A SPECIAL MEETING SEPARATE FROM FROM OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. THEN THE 25TH. AND ARE YOU HERE ON THE THAT MONDAY PRIOR? YES, SIR.BUT I'LL BE HERE THAT MONDAY. WE GOT A LOT TO GO OUT OF TOWN DURING THESE. I CAN SEE PEOPLE.
I'LL BE GONE FROM THE 12TH TO THE 19TH. SO YOU'RE GONE. THE 12TH THROUGH THE 19TH. OKAY.
THE 10TH RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE. BUT YOU'RE HERE. THE 10TH, RIGHT? YES. YOU'RE HERE THE 10TH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING COMING UP ON THE 10TH? YOU'RE AVAILABLE ON THE 10TH. EVERYBODY ELSE IS AVAILABLE ON THE 10TH. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A WEEK OF MEETINGS AT SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST. DO WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ON THE 12TH. NO. MIGHT AS WELL. NO.
I'M OKAY. MOVING SPECIAL MEETING TO THE 10TH. YES. YOU'RE AS COUNCIL. ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT? ON THE 10TH WOULD BE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND THEN THE 11TH WOULD BE OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. CORRECT. NO CONFLICT HERE. OKAY. SO OKAY, BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THE 10TH.
OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 15 AND TO AMEND THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FROM AUGUST 4TH TO AUGUST 10TH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND KIDDOS.
KIDDOS IS OUR SECOND. COULD YOU HOLD ON TIME OUT. DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME FROM THE SEVENTH TO THE 10TH? BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY YOU RECEIVE IT THE MORE YOU RECEIVE IT THE AFTERNOON OF DOES THE 10TH. YEAH. YOU HAVE ONE DAY MAY NOT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU UPDATED NUMBERS IN THE MEETING. AND THEN ON THE 25TH, WE STILL HAVE TIME TO UPDATE THE BOOK, THE FRIDAY OR THE THURSDAY BEFORE. AND THEN I'LL JUST PROVIDE YOU UPDATED NUMBERS ON ON THE 10TH. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
NO PROBLEM. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA.
HI, KIDDOS. I ORTEGA I AVILA I AMES I GARDEA I MENDOZA I AND MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MEMBERS. JUST REMEMBER THAT. REMEMBER I'M GOING TO DURING
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BUDGET SEASON. OKAY. ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16. THIS IS TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF A KEY VARIABLE LOADER FOR PROGRAMING, PORTABLE AND MOBILE RADIOS USING SURPLUS FUNDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS ACCOUNT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $14,000.GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ELVA RAMOS. I'M THE COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS YOLANDA HUERTA. I'M THE COMMUNICATIONS ASSISTANT MANAGER. WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE A KEY VARIABLE LOADER. WE WENT INTO SECURE MODE AS OF JANUARY OF 2025. IT'S A PORTABLE DEVICE THAT LOADS ENCRYPTION KEYS ONTO OUR RADIOS. IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS DEVICE, THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR RADIOS BE ON SECURE MODE. SO IT'S USED FOR PORTABLE RADIOS, OUR MOBILE RADIOS, AND OUR RADIO CONSOLES AS WELL. SO THE CVL IS ESSENTIAL FOR SECURELY PROGRAMING AND MANAGING ENCRYPTION KEYS FOR ENCRYPTED RADIOS. WHEN WE WENT ON TO SECURE MODE, MORE MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA ACTUALLY REQUESTED THE DEVICE FROM ANOTHER AGENCY. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE EL PASO SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO OBTAIN IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT BECAUSE IT WAS A DELAY WHEN WE
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WANTED TO GO ON TO SECURE MODE, SO WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THE AGENCY TO BE ABLE TO LET US BORROW THE THE DEVICE. OKAY, SO WITH THE CVL, IT PROTECTS SENSITIVE COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WITH THE APP, YOU COULD ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD A SCANNER AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LISTEN IN TO THE RADIO TRANSMISSIONS WHEN WE'RE NOT ON SECURE MODE.LUCKILY WE ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT PROTECTS OUR PERSONNEL AS WELL. ALSO, IT MAINTAINS SECURE ACCESS. ONLY AUTHORIZED RADIOS WITH CORRECT KEYS CAN TRANSMIT AND RECEIVE ENCRYPTED RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. SO THE WAY IT WORKS, LET'S SAY THAT OUR RADIO TRANSMISSION IS A LOCKED DOOR.
THEN THE ENCRYPTION KEY IS ABLE TO OPEN THAT UNLOCKED DOOR AND LISTEN TO THE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS. SO LET'S SAY A RADIO GETS LOST, NOT LIKE ONCE THE ENCRYPTION KEY GETS SWITCHED OVER, THAT PERSON WHO FOUND THE THE PORTABLE RADIO WON'T BE ABLE TO LISTEN IN TO OUR RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. NONETHELESS, THAT THAT SCANNER WON'T WORK. ALSO, IT IMPROVES OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. IT SUPPORTS AUTOMATIC AND MULTIPLE KEY LOADING, ALLOWING TECHNICIANS TO SWIFTLY PROGRAM SEVERAL RADIOS, MAINTENANCE OR KEY CHANGES. SO ONCE AGAIN, IF AN OFFICER WAS TO LOSE THE RADIO, WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY SWITCH THAT ENCRYPTION KEY TO SOMETHING ELSE. THAT WAY, THAT PERSON CAN'T CAN LISTEN TO OUR RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. SO THIS IS A DEVICE. THIS IS THE KEY VARIABLE LOADER. IT'S FROM MOTOROLA. IT'S A CVL 7000. THE AMOUNT IS APPROXIMATELY 13,465 WITH $0.38. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MA'AM.
APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES. IS THAT A QUESTION? YES. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THESE ARE THESE WILL BE PURCHASED USING SURPLUS FUNDS. SO NO FISCAL IMPACT? NO, SIR. JUST THE SURPLUS FUNDS. THANK YOU. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES. MISS RAMOS, THE SURPLUS FUNDS. I'M SORRY. THE SURPLUS FUNDS. HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE STILL HAVE LEFT FOR? I WOULD HAVE TO CALCULATE IT, SIR. WHEN I ASKED MISS LILLY FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDS, WE WERE AT 152,000. AND THEN WE PURCHASED THE THE CHANNEL TWO, THE VEHICLE. SO WE. WE STILL HAVE SURPLUS FUNDS. OKAY. AND SO THIS THIS DEVICE. IS THIS A PURCHASE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? HOW OFTEN OR IS THIS JUST A ONE TIME PURCHASE? OKAY. AS LONG AS WE'RE STILL GOING WITH THIS ENCRYPTED TECHNOLOGY. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. IT'S A ONE TIME PURCHASE AND WE'LL USE IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT'S LIKE A WHAT'S A DEVICE WITH WITH THE SOFTWARE. OKAY. DOES THAT SOFTWARE NEED TO BE UPDATED AND DOES IT NEED TO BE PURCHASED.
BUT IT WOULDN'T COST US. IT WOULD JUST BE THE DEVICE ITSELF. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.
GOOD QUESTION. YES. WHO WOULD? A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHAT DO YOU USE NOW TO. SO THE TIME WE WENT ON SECURE MODE, THAT WAS BACK IN JANUARY OF 2025. MOTOR MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA.
THEY REQUESTED TO I BELIEVE IT WAS THE EL PASO SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. WE BORROWED IT FROM THEM, BUT THEY WOULD GIVE US A RUNAROUND LIKE, OH, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO USE IT.
AND IT EXPANDED THE TIME THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO ON TO SECURE MODE. THERE WAS A FEW WEEKS BEFORE WE COULD ACTUALLY BORROW THAT DEVICE, AND WHO WOULD KEEP THE DEVICE IF WE THE AGENCY. SO THAT WOULD BE I MEAN, IF WE PURCHASED ONE, OH, IT WOULD BE US THAT WOULD BE OURS. AND I WOULD OF COURSE LEARN HOW TO PROGRAM WITH THAT. WITH THE DEVICE, WITH THE KEY VARIABLE LOADER. THANK YOU. YES. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. YES, SIR. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE LAST QUESTION. ANY GRANTS THAT WE COULD HAVE USED IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THIS? YOU KNOW WHAT? RIGHT NOW, WITH THE GRANTS, WHEN IT COMES TO GRANTS, I WORK CLOSELY WITH MARISSA QUINTANILLA. AND WE'RE LIKE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE I MENTIONED THE THE PREVIOUS TIME IT'S THERE PROVIDING A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITH THE BUDGET. SO THEY'RE ASKING US THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE BEFORE IT USED TO BE LIKE EL PASO SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND EL PASO POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD HOG UP LIKE ALL THE GRANT. SO NOW MARISSA IS WORKING GREAT SPLITTING UP THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO FOR NOW, THE ONE I HAVE RIGHT NOW WORKING IS THAT TRANSMITTER THAT WOULD BE ON CLARET CUP AND DARRINGTON TO HAVE BETTER RADIO COMMUNICATION OUT THERE. SO AND TO CLARIFY, MARISSA QUINTANILLA WORKS FOR THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. SO AND SHE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, AS MISS SILVA MENTIONED, MAKING
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SURE THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE RECEIVING AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF GRANT FUNDING. SO RIGHT NOW FUNDING IS VERY LIMITED. WE HAD A MEETING LAST MONTH TO DISCUSS THAT EXACT QUESTION ON FUNDING FOR OUR FOR OUR REGION. AND FUNDING IS GETTING LESS AND LESS AS THE YEARS GO BY. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS NEXT YEAR, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TOWN ITSELF. BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST THEY'RE HURTING RIGHT NOW TO FINDING GRANT MONEY. IT'S JUST EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE GET. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A GRANT FOR IT.YES SIR, YES SIR. AND WE WE JUMP ON IT AS SOON AS AS WE CAN. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND I BELIEVE CHIEF IS ON THAT BOARD. YOU'RE ON THAT BOARD WITH THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO SO YEAH, HE'S WE HAVE A VOICE ON WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE NOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE DIDN'T. AND AND NOW CHIEF IS ON THAT BOARD AND I'M I'M ON THAT RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT BOARD. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. SO IT'S WE SEE IT, IT DROPS EVERY YEAR. IT DROPS EVERY YEAR. SO AND YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE DROP AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SD ONE. BUT YEAH, IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY AWARE OF. SO AND I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH. WE NEED AS MUCH GRANT MONEY AS WE CAN. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. MOVE TO APPROVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND MOVE TO APPROVE WAS ALDERMAN QUIROZ AND THE SECOND WAS ALDERWOMAN ORTEGA. PLEASE CALL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. ORTEGA.
AVILA I AMES A MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LADIES. OKAY, ON TO
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ITEM NUMBER 17. THIS IS TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF FOUR MICROSOFT SURFACE LAPTOPS FOR USE BY PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, USING SURPLUS FUNDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS ACCOUNT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $19,000. GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS IRLANDA HUERTA. I'M THE COMMUNICATIONS ASSISTANT MANAGER. THE COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE LAPTOPS FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. WE ARE REQUESTING TWO FOR APPROVAL FOR TO PURCHASE FOUR LAPTOPS. THEY WILL BE USED BY OUR THREE SHIFT SUPERVISORS AND MYSELF AND AS WELL AS ALL COMMUNICATION PERSONNEL WHEN NEEDED. THE LAPTOPS WILL SUPPORT OUR NINE COMMUNICATIONS OPERATIONS BY PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY TO LEAVE THE WORKSTATIONS WHEN OPERATION NEEDS REQUIRE. ALSO, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THE TOOLS AND INFORMATION NEEDED TO SUPPORT OUR PERSONNEL, IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS, PERFORMANCE, PROVIDE PERFORMANCE FEEDBACK, DO DISCIPLINARY DOCUMENTATION AND OTHER PERSONNEL MATTERS TO BE HANDLED IN A MORE PRIVATE SETTING, AND IT WOULD ALSO SUPPORT AFTER HOURS SUPPORT, AND THIS WILL PROVIDE A SECURE ACCESS TO OUR EMAIL SCHEDULES AND OPERATIONAL RESOURCES TO ADDRESS STAFFING ISSUES AND SUPPORT OUR ON DUTY PERSONNEL WHEN NEEDED. IN ADDITION, IT IS.
IT WILL BE CITY MANAGED, CLOUD BASED DEVICE, AND IT WILL PROVIDE SECURE ACCESS TO SENSITIVE INFORMATION. IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED TO USE PERSONAL DEVICES TO CONDUCT OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT BUSINESS. IT WOULD ALSO BE USED FOR TRAINING PURPOSES, MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS FOR ALL OUR COMMUNICATION PERSONNEL. AND IT DOESN'T SHARE CONSISTENT HARDWARE SOFTWARE SECURITY AND IT WILL SIMPLIFY IT SUPPORT. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM IT FOR THE LAPTOP, IT'S A MICROSOFT SURFACE LAPTOP FOR BUSINESS. THE EIGHTH EDITION, WHICH IS THIS ONE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. THE COST PER LAPTOP IS 4728 WITH $0.99. THE TOTAL WOULD BE 18,915 WITH $0.96 FOR THE FOUR LAPTOPS. THIS LAPTOP WAS RECOMMENDED BY IT. IT DOES SUPPORT CITY TECHNOLOGY NEEDS. IT IS DESIGNED FOR EVERYDAY PROFESSIONAL USE. THE PROCESSOR. THE TYPE OF PROCESSOR HAS. IT DELIVERS FAST AND RELIABLE PERFORMANCE. IT DOES RUN MULTIPLE CITY PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME WITHOUT SLOWING THE.
THE LAPTOP AND. THERE IS PLENTY OF STORAGE FOR WORK FILES, REPORTS AND DOCUMENTATION, AS WELL AS BUILD TO PROVIDE SEVERAL YEARS OF RELIABLE SERVICE. REDUCING REPLACEMENT COSTS ABOUT 5 TO 7 YEARS. AND I ALSO DID WANT TO ADD THAT I DO THINK THAT THE LAPTOPS FOR THE SUPERVISORS AND MYSELF. IT IS AN ESSENTIAL TOOL THAT WILL HELP US BETTER SUPPORT OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE 911 OPERATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. THE PROGRAMS THAT ALREADY COME ON THESE LAPTOPS, WE CAN'T
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JUST PROGRAM PURCHASE THE PROGRAM TO ADD TO OUR EXISTING LAPTOPS. IF IF WE HAVE LAPTOPS THAT WE'RE USING. SO WE CURRENTLY ARE. DISPATCH DOES HAVE TWO LAPTOPS, HOWEVER THEY WERE PURCHASED IN 2020. SO THEY HAVE MET THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY. AND THEN RECENTLY WE DID ENCOUNTER ISSUES LIKE THE LAPTOP SHUTTING DOWN OR TROUBLE LOGGING IN. YES. AND AS FAR AS THESE LAPTOPS, ARE THEY ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING HOME FOR? YES, SIR. SO IT WOULD BE ASSIGNED THROUGH HOUR TO HOUR, THREE SHIFT SUPERVISORS AND MYSELF TO TAKE HOME FOR THAT AFTER SUPPORT, AFTER HOUR SUPPORT WHEN NEEDED. AND JUST SO IT COULD BE A A SECURE LAPTOP. WHEN WE DO NEED TO ACCESS THAT SENSITIVE INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE THE ON DUTY STAFF. THEY DO CALL US AT TIMES WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE TO ASK QUESTIONS, OR THEY NEED SUPPORT IN SOMETHING WITH OPERATIONS, OR EVEN THE OPERATION ISSUES THAT WE ENCOUNTER AT TIMES. I KNOW NORMALLY IF I PURCHASE A LAPTOP, LET'S SAY AT BEST BUY, I PURCHASE ADDITIONAL IT SUPPORT. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE PRICE OR DO WE STILL NEED ANY OTHER.I BELIEVE THAT'S INCLUDED. AND OUR IT SUPPORT IS SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.
GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES.
MISS HUERTA, THOSE YOU MENTIONED, YOU HAD TWO LAPTOPS RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE ARE NOT LONG NO LONGER USABLE FOR FOR YOUR PURPOSES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THESE THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING WOULD BE REPLACING THOSE TWO. YES. SO THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE SHIFT SUPERVISORS AND MYSELF. HOWEVER, IF NEEDED, ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS PERSONNEL WILL BE USING IT. AND IT'S MORE FOR LIKE TRAINING PURPOSES. IF THEY NEED TO GO OUT ON A TRAINING OR, BUT IT WOULD BE MOSTLY USED BY THE SUPERVISORS AND MYSELF. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ONES. I'M SORRY, THE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ONES THAT YOU'RE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE. YOU KNOW WHAT, RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SURE I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT YET. YEAH, WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN SEE WHERE ELSE WE CAN USE THOSE LAPTOPS. SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LAPTOPS THAT ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, PAID THROUGH TAXPAYERS MONEY AND MAYBE THEY CAN BE USED BY OTHER PERSONNEL WITHIN THE CITY IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN NO LONGER USE THEM. YES, SIR. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A HAS AN INVENTORY OF, OF LAPTOPS THAT HAVE, I GUESS, OUT OF DATE THAT HAVE THAT HE CAN'T UPDATE ANYMORE BECAUSE I KNOW WITH THE CITY ITSELF, WHEN WE WHEN WE REPLACE COMPUTERS, THEY'RE AT THE CITY THAT GOES INTO AN INVENTORY THAT HE HAS AND EVERYTHING IS CHECKED OFF. SO AS THEY'RE ASSIGNED, THAT GOES INTO THEIR PERSONAL PERSONNEL FILE THAT THAT THEY WERE ASSIGNED A DEVICE. AND ONCE THAT DEVICE IS TURNED IN. SO IN THIS CASE, THESE TWO DEVICES, THEN THAT WOULD GO BACK TO HIS INVENTORY OF, I GUESS, OUT OF DATE COMPUTERS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT, SIR, IF I CAN, IF I CAN ADD. SO NOW THE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST ADVANCING SO MUCH THAT THE EXPECTANCY USED TO BE FIVE YEARS, NOW IT'S GOING DOWN TO THREE YEARS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2020 LAPTOPS, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING WE'RE IN 2026. SO YEAH, SOME OF THEM ARE MALFUNCTIONING. BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE VERY FRUGAL WITH WITH WHAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? SO IF, IF THOSE LAPTOPS ARE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE, WE'LL FIND SOMEWHERE TO, TO USE THEM. YEAH. AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM REGARDING THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR. I MEAN, WE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO YOU FOR A PURCHASE THAT WE DON'T NEED OR THAT WE WANT BECAUSE OF IT'S A, IT'S A LUXURY OR, OR, OR BECAUSE WE WANT THE LATEST AND GREATEST THING. IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S NEEDED. AND HE DOES, WE DO, WE, WE, WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULE OF REPLACEMENT FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE COMPUTERS, ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL RADIO SYSTEMS AND THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES. WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF WHEN, WHEN WE SHOULD BE REPLACING THOSE. THANK YOU. OBSOLETE WAS THE WORD I WAS SEARCHING FOR. I HAD FINALLY POPPED INTO AS CHIEF WAS TALKING OBSOLETE. SO AS THOSE. AS THOSE DEVICES BECOME OBSOLETE, THEN JOSUE TAKES THEM BACK INTO HIS INVENTORY AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO I THINK AT SOME POINT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GET WITH MISS LILY TO FIND OUT IF THAT IS
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SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY MOVE ON TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, AS WELL AS MAYBE SOME OF THE INVENTORY THERE. SO BUT WE'LL WE'LL GET WITH HER AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SO I, I AGREE WITH COMPUTERS. THE ISSUE COMES IS THE SECURITY. IF YOU KEEP THE COMPUTER FOR TOO LONG, MICROSOFT NO LONGER SUPPORTS IT. IT CAUSES A LOT OF SECURITY ISSUES AND I DON'T RECOMMEND BEING REUSED. IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD WAY OF DOING BUSINESS IN GOVERNMENT. MAYBE FOR YOUR PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I DO AGREE WITH THE LAPTOPS AND THE PURCHASE. MY CONCERN IS OF THEM BEING $4,900 EACH. I THINK THERE'S A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE TO LAPTOPS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE HAVING TO REPLACE EVERY THREE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGE. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN. I PURCHASE A LOT OF COMPUTERS FOR MY DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW YOU CAN GET THEM CHEAPER. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY CONCERN. I THINK YOU COULD MAXIMIZE YOUR DOLLARS BY GOING WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER. STILL JUST AS GOOD. IF YOU HAVE STORAGE, YOU MIGHT NOT NEED THAT TERABYTE. YOU COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH STORAGE DEPENDING ON WHAT ONLINE STUFF YOU HAVE, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE MORE COMPUTERS WITH THAT MONEY AND MAXIMIZE YOUR DOLLARS. AND THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY AS WELL. SO BUT YEAH, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. YES, MA'AM.YES, SIR. COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT DOES AFTER OUR SUPPORT LOOK LIKE? TYPICALLY AFTER OURS COULD INCLUDE ANY SCHEDULING ISSUES THAT WE MAY ENCOUNTER, ANYTHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BASED THAT IS BASED ON SCHEDULING OR IF OUR ON DUTY STAFF CALLS US THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE AND WE NEED TO ACCESS WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR CLOUD, AS WELL AS JUST ACCESSING THE MAIL.
I'M SORRY, THE MAIL, THE EMAIL, AND DOWNLOADING ANYTHING THAT IS SENSITIVE CONFIDENTIALITY ITEMS. AND SO RIGHT NOW, THE THE TWO LAPTOPS YOU CURRENTLY USE ARE THOSE BEING USED FOR AFTER HOURS SUPPORT. NO THEY'RE NOT. SO RIGHT NOW WE WE CURRENTLY FUNCTION WITHOUT AFTER HOURS SUPPORT. AND THIS IS JUST TO BETTER, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE OR THESE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT RIGHT AFTER HOURS AND. YES, SIR. OKAY.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MOVE TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. SO I'LL. ALDERMAN QUIROZ AND ALDERWOMAN ORTEGA, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. I KIDDOS I ORTEGA AVILA. I AMES I MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18 ON AN EXTENSION TO THE SUBDIVISION
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IMPROVEMENT. SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION EXPIRATION DATE TO JANUARY 8TH, 2027. PURSUANT TO SECTION 4.11.2 EXPIRATION OF FINAL PLAT APPROVAL AND TO REAFFIRM CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR RANCHO DE CIERTOS UNIT 18SDF25-0002.RECORDING PLAT APPLICATION AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE RECORDING PLAT LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LAKE CLARK SURVEY NUMBER 297 TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS CONTAINING 17.354 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. APPLICABLE SUBMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT, REPRESENTATIVE, TREE AND ASSOCIATES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DAVID REES, PLANNER WITH HORIZON CITY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IT IS GOING TO BE FOR A SIX MONTH EXTENSION REQUEST FOR RANCHO UNIT 18. SO THEIR DUE DATE. THEY. WHEN THE FINAL PLAT WAS ACCEPTED, THEY HAD A YEAR TO COMPLETE ALL IMPROVEMENTS, SO THEIR DUE DATE WAS ON JULY 8TH OF 2026. SINCE THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY REQUESTED, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT SIX MONTH EXTENSION AND THAT THAT NEW DATE WOULD BE JANUARY 8TH, 2027. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL PLAT, AND IT IS A TOTAL OF 89 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU UP HERE. FRESH BLOOD MAN. IT'S NICE THE THE PLANNERS ARE COMING OUT. THIS IS AWESOME. YOU GUYS BETTER HAVE QUESTIONS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BUDDY.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW IT WAS QUICK. COULD YOU GO BACK REALLY QUICK. ONE SLIDE. THERE YOU GO. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS AGENDA
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ITEM. HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS IS THAT. I'M SORRY. HOW MANY UNITS IS THAT? 89, 89, 89 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON A R NINE. SO WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT. THE AVERAGE FOR THAT ONE IT IS GOING TO BE THE 5500, 5000, 5500 SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE LOT. THE LOT ITSELF. THOSE ARE BIG HOUSES. YEAH. NO NOT THE HOUSE. THE LOT. YEAH. THE TAXES ON 55. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? WHAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL DEADLINE? IT WAS JULY 8TH 2026. SO THAT WAS LAST WEEK. YEAH, 14 LAST WEEK. IS THERE A MOTION A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MAYOR MENDOZA AND A SECOND BY ALDERWOMAN ORTEGA. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA KIROS ORTEGA. AVILA. AYE AYE. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THEY TOOK IT EASY ON YOU THIS TIME. THEY'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 19. THIS IS ON A RESOLUTION TO ASK[19. Discussion and Action]
IF CONSULTING ON PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL, FINANCIAL AND OVERSIGHT SERVICES FOR A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN TO COVER BUDGET SHORTFALLS FOR THE NORTH BARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THIS RESOLUTION WOULD APPROVE THE PROJECT ROADMAP, COMPLETION OF THE FUNDING GAP ANALYSIS, COMPLETION OF THE FINAL FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT, AND DIRECT STAFF TO PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY INFORMATION TO SUPPORT TIMELY COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS RESOLUTION, WHAT IT DOES, IT'S GOING TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE ANALYSIS ON GAP FINANCING THROUGH THE TEXAS STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, OR CIB, AS A FINANCING PROGRAM. AND THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO THE THE PURPOSE OF THE BRIEFING, THEN IS TO INTRODUCE THE COUNCIL TO THE THE CIB FINANCE FINANCIAL PROCESS OR FINANCING PROCESS TO EXPLAIN THE ANTICIPATED FUNDING STRATEGY FOR HORIZON CITY'S NORTH DARRINGTON OBLIGATIONS TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED PROJECT SCHEDULE OR ROADMAP, AND THEN TO ESTABLISH EXPECTATIONS REGARDING INFORMATION REQUIREMENTS AND IDENTIFYING COUNCIL DECISION POINTS, AND THEN FINALLY TO OBTAIN COUNCIL CONCURRENCE TO PROCEED WITH THE FUNDING, ANALYSIS AND APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT. SO THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY DOES HAVE SOME FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS RELATED TO THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THROUGH THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, RIGHT. WITH WITH THE TEX DOT AND WHAT THE FUNDING AGREEMENT ESSENTIALLY STIPULATES IS THAT ANY COST OVERRUNS OR ANY CHANGE ORDERS, ANYTHING THAT GOES ABOVE THE BUDGET IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY. AND IN THIS CASE, THERE HAS AS YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT SEVERAL ITEMS TO YOU ALL ALREADY AS FAR AS SOME BUDGET OVERRUNS RELATED TO UTILITY RELOCATIONS. THOSE GAS CAPS, OTHER CHANGE ORDERS RELATED TO THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO THE THIS IS GOING TO NECESSITATE ADDITIONAL FINANCING TO SATISFY THESE OBLIGATIONS. TEX DOT SO TYPICALLY ONCE THE PROJECT IS OVER, THEY WILL SEND THE FINAL THE FINAL COST OF THE PROJECT AS FAR AS WHATEVER OVERAGES ARE THERE SO THAT THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND PAY FOR AT THE TIME. SO THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK PROGRAM PROVIDES LOW COST TRANSPORTATION FINANCING TO ELIGIBLE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND MAY PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOLUTION FOR THE TOWN'S IDENTIFIED NEEDS. THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IS ELIGIBLE FOR FOR A CIB LOAN, AS IT IS A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY ONGOING WITH TXDOT AND THE CIB. THE. THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IS ACTUALLY MANAGED BY TXDOT.IT GOES THROUGH TXDOT. SO AGAIN, WHAT IS THE. WHAT IS THE TEXAS STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK? AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S ADMINISTERED BY TXDOT. AND IT PROVIDES LOANS FOR ELIGIBLE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION RELATED OBLIGATIONS. BENEFITS MAY INCLUDE BELOW MARKET FINANCING RATES, FLEXIBLE REPAYMENT TERMS, LOAN TERMS UP TO 30 YEARS, NO APPLICATION FEES. FIXED INTEREST RATES DURING THE LIFE OF THE LOAN.
FLEXIBLE REPAYMENT STRUCTURES TAILORED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED
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FUNDING STRATEGY. THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO VALIDATE THE PROJECT COSTS, IDENTIFY FUNDING SOURCES, DETERMINE FUNDING GAP, ASSESS A DEBT AFFORDABILITY, AND DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT. AS FAR AS THE PROJECT ROADMAP, THE STEP ONE WOULD BE TO EVALUATE THE PROJECT, COLLECT TOWN AND TEXDOT DOCUMENTATION, RECONCILE PROJECT COSTS, REVIEW FUNDING OBLIGATIONS, AND THEN IDENTIFY ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS. THE STEP TWO WOULD BE THE FUNDING GAP ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE REMAINING OBLIGATIONS AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCES, POTENTIAL BORROWING REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN STEP THREE WOULD BE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS TO EVALUATE DEBT AFFORDABILITY, REPAYMENT OPTIONS, DEBT SERVICE IMPACTS, FINANCING, ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVES. AND THEN STEP FOUR IS FOR THE CIB APPLICATION PREPARATION TO DEVELOP A ACTUAL APPLICATION PACKAGE. FINANCIAL EXHIBITS SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND REQUIRED RESOLUTIONS. WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR A FINAL RESOLUTION THAT TAKES THAT REQUIRES TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION THROUGH GUILDFORD CONSULTING SERVICES FOR FOR FOR THE LOAN. THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THE TEXDOT REVIEW AND NEGOTIATION. RIGHT. COORDINATE WITH TEXDOT REGARDING THE ELIGIBILITY. AND AGAIN, ELIGIBILITY IS THERE BECAUSE IT IS AN ONGOING PROJECT WITH THROUGH TEXDOT, THE LOAN AMOUNT ITSELF, THE REPAYMENT STRUCTURE, AND THEN THE LOAN TERMS. STEP SIX IS FOR TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION APPROVAL. THAT'S OBTAINED THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION CONSIDERATION. AND THEN THE LOAN REQUEST EXCEEDING 10 MILLION MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND PRIORITIZATION. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY. WE NEED TO RECONCILE ALL THE COSTS BECAUSE WE RELY ON ON TEXDOT TO GIVE US UPDATES ON, ON, ON, ON THE CURRENT COST OR COST OVERRUNS, I SHOULD SAY. AND AT THIS TIME, WE, WE'RE NOT GETTING LIKE REAL TIME UPDATES.SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO COORDINATE WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET MORE UPDATED INFORMATION WHICH WOULD BE NEEDED. SO STEP SEVEN WOULD BE THE LOAN CLOSING. THAT'S TO FINALIZE THE LOAN AGREEMENT, BUDGET ACTIONS AND FUNDING PROCEDURES. AND THEN FINALLY COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL DECISION TIMELINE CONSISTS AS FOLLOWS. SO OBVIOUSLY JULY 4TH 14TH IS THE THE ACTUAL BRIEFING TO AUTHORIZE THE PROJECT INITIATION. AND AT THIS POINT, PROJECT INITIATION IS NOT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION ITSELF. IT'S MORE OF THE ANALYSIS, THE GAP ANALYSIS TO TO GET TO THAT POINT. SO LIKE I SAID, LAYING THE GROUNDWORK TO DO THAT. THEN WE GO TO SEPTEMBER 2026. THAT WOULD BE THE REVIEW OF THE FUNDING GAP ANALYSIS AND FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY REPORT.
THEN THE APPROVAL OF THE PREFERRED FINANCIAL STRATEGY AND THE APPLICATION PREPARATION WOULD HAPPEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IN OCTOBER, IT WOULD BE THE REVIEW DRAFT OF THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. NOVEMBER WOULD BE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR FINAL APPLICATION SUBMISSION.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD COME BACK AGAIN FOR THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THAT RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE US TO SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION. AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, WE RECEIVED THE TEXAS STATUS UPDATE ON THE LOAN APPLICATION. AND IN APRIL OF 27, WE REVIEW THE PROPOSED FINANCING TERMS AND MAY THE APPROVED LOAN DOCUMENTS AND AUTHORIZE CLOSING WOULD WOULD START. AND THEN AS FAR AS PROJECT RISK AND MITIGATION POTENTIAL RISKS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE WE'RE RELYING ON TXDOT FOR THE INFORMATION AND THEN OUR OWN FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING AND THINGS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. SO WE'RE KIND OF LIKE ON A TIME CONSTRAINT. AND AGAIN, WE NEED STRONG COORDINATION WITH TXDOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THAT INFORMATION TO US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE, WE, WE GET THAT, THAT DELIVERY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS TO, TO TEXT ON. AND THEN THE UTILITY COSTS, RECONCILIATION ISSUES, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT COMES UP AND THEN LEGAL REVIEWS AND DELAYS, ADDITIONAL TXDOT REQUESTS, TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SCHEDULING. AND THEN AS FAR AS RISK MITIGATION, AGAIN, EARLY DOCUMENTATION COLLECTION, MONTHLY STATUS REVIEWS, DEDICATED RISK BUFFER PERIODS, DEFINED RESPONSE DEADLINES, ACTION ITEM TRACKING, AND THEN ESCALATION PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SEE IF WE NEED TO DO ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL CONSULTING WORK FROM OTHER QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS, SUCH AS TECHNICAL REVIEWS, ADVISORY
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SERVICES. ALSO FOR LIKE ANY TYPE OF INDEPENDENT REVIEWS IF THEY'RE NEEDED. AND FINALLY, THE REQUESTED ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL WOULD BE FOR THE, THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT ROADMAP THAT I JUST DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL THE TO AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION OF THE FUNDING GAP ANALYSIS TO AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION OF THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT, AND THEN TO DIRECT STAFF TO PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY INFORMATION TO SUPPORT TIMELY COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. I DID PROVIDE A A QUICK FACT SHEET ON THE CIB LOAN, HOW IT WORKS AND HOW THE LOANS, YOU KNOW, THE TIMELINE OF THE LOANS, HOW THEY WORK AND THE ELIGIBLE, THE ELIGIBLE COSTS THAT COULD BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE APPLICATION. AND AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS ELIGIBLE WITH THAT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. I'M SO SORRY. I TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT NO PROBLEM. SO YES OR NO? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. SO I DO WANT TO SAY ONE THING.
THIS THIS SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS, IS KIND OF A FLUID SCHEDULE, OKAY? BECAUSE AS MR. RUBIO POINTED OUT, THE I THINK, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, I GUESS. LET ME SEE. GO BACK ONE MORE WHERE IT HAS THE DATES ON THEIR DATES, THE. THERE YOU GO. SO THE MAY 2027 CLOSING IS ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION DATE FOR THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION, AND I BELIEVE. MR. SANCHEZ, DO YOU WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THE COMPLETION FOR THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION? AUGUST 27TH. SO SO WE'RE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AHEAD ON THE LOAN APPLICATION WHEN WE HAVEN'T REALLY RECONCILED EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WHAT WHAT OUR GAP IS. RIGHT. SO SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT WE DO HAVE TO START THIS PROCESS IN ORDER BECAUSE IT IS A LONG PROCESS. BUT THESE DATES MAY CHANGE FOR US AS WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT, THAT DEADLINE. AND AS FAR AS FUNDING OPTIONS, WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THIS. SO THAT WILL NOT IMPACT THE CITY. AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT, WE WILL WE WILL BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AS WELL. SO BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS AGAIN, THIS SCHEDULE IS REALLY FLUID RIGHT NOW. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE GET CLOSER, WE STILL WE STILL HAVE CLOSEOUTS. WE STILL HAVE TO AUDIT THE, THE, THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CORRECT AMOUNT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST FORECASTING. AND WE DON'T LIVE IN A WORLD OF, OF, OF FORECASTING A LOT. WE WANT HARD NUMBERS SO WE CAN CLOSE OUT PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. SO I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO AND TO YOUR POINT, SIR, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING THIS MORE OF A, AN AMBITIOUS TYPE OF SCHEDULING BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR FOR THE FINAL COSTS THAT TXDOT WILL, WILL SUBMIT TO US TO SEE IF WE'RE PREPARED TO, TO PAY THOSE AMOUNTS. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'LL FINISH SOONER TOO. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE HOPE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE HOPE. SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE. BUT WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'M DONE THIS WAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO YOU OR TO MR. SANCHEZ. I KNOW THAT PART OF THE DELAYS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH DARRINGTON IS BECAUSE OF THE ABANDONED GAS LINES THAT THEY WERE DISCOVERING AS THEY WERE DIGGING, RIGHT. PARTICULARLY IN THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE, CLOSE TO THIS BUILDING, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING. AS THEY CONTINUE DOWN. DARRINGTON, ARE WE ARE WE EXPECTING ANY MORE OF THIS? ABANDONED GAS LINES OR UTILITIES? IT'S REALLY HARD. FOR THE RECORD, I'M JESSIE SANCHEZ, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM MANAGER. TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT'S BURIED UNDERNEATH.
THE TEXAS GAS SERVICE DOES NOT HAVE ANY UPDATED PLANS. SOME OF THEIR PLANS GO BACK ABOUT TYPICALLY 30 TO 40 YEARS, BUT SOME OF THESE LINES WERE ACTUALLY INSTALLED GREATER THAN THAT 60 TO 80 YEARS AGO. WE DO ANTICIPATE THE CONCRETE BOX CULVERT, THE ONE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, WHERE THEY DID A TRANSITION FROM THE CYLINDRICAL PIPE TO THE BOX CULVERT. THE BOX CULVERT IS QUITE A BIT HARDER TO INSTALL, AND SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM LONGER JUST TO INSTALL THAT NEW STORM SEWER. AND SO I THINK THEY HAD SOME CONCRETE CAPS THAT WERE PROTECTING THESE UTILITY LINES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OLD BUILT BACK IN THE 50S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ARE THESE EXPECTED TO BE FOUND THROUGHOUT DARRINGTON AS WE CONTINUE? WE
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DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY MORE, SIR. OKAY. THE ONES FOUND HAVE BEEN REMOVED. THE ONES FOUND HAVE BEEN REMOVED. OKAY, SO JUST SO I MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THIS CLEAR IN MY HEAD. TEX-DOT, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IS THE ONE THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE MOVING AT TEX-DOT SPEED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE BORROWING MONEY FOR THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR DELAY. THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. YES, SIR. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR AND TXDOT ON, I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT MONTH ON THE EIGHTH, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS FUNDING GAP WILL LOOK LIKE.THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. THEN AGAIN, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. RUBIO OR FOR MR. SANCHEZ. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROJECT COST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED? DARRINGTON? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IT'S I THINK I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT $21 MILLION OF THAT. 20% WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT CLOSE TO $4 MILLION. SO THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR MATCH. THE THE $4 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN HERE AS WELL TO TO COVER IT. THAT IS AN ELIGIBLE COST THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT AS WELL. YES, SIR. AND THEN RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE OF THE OVERAGE? I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE YET RIGHT NOW FOR SURE. WE KNOW THE THE THE MATCH IS THERE, THE $4 MILLION. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT IS JUST THE ADDITION OF ALL THE CHANGE ORDERS. AND IN ALL THE DELAYS, I'D HAVE TO LIKE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE CHANGE ORDERS FROM TXDOT. BUT ON THE UTILITY UTILITY RELOCATION AND THE CAP ISSUE, I THINK WE CAME IN AT ABOUT $280,000 JUST FOR THAT PART, THAT PIECE, AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE HR MUD COSTS FOR THEIR RELOCATION OF LINES. ANOTHER ISSUES THAT THAT HAPPEN THERE. AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH DESIGN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A DESIGN BUST THAT THEY THAT THEY HAD TO REDESIGN. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER THAT AS WELL. YES, SIR. SO, I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO LIKE TIE DOWN A NUMBER LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S TOO PREMATURE FOR US TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FROM TEXDOT. BUT ONCE WE MEET WITH THEM AND TRY TO COORDINATE CLOSER WITH THEM, WE COULD PROBABLY GET SOME, SOME GOOD NUMBERS SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE HOW MUCH IT IS. AND IF I, IF I MAY, MAYOR. SO INITIALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT A PROJECT COST, AS MR. RUBIO SAID, ABOUT 21 TO $22 MILLION. SO WE WENT WITH THE $22 MILLION JUST TO COVER ANY MISCELLANEOUS COSTS. THE GRANT THAT CAME IN WAS AT $17.5 MILLION, WHICH WAS THE $3.5 MILLION, $4 MILLION GAP. SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING INTO THIS WITH AT LEAST A $4 MILLION GAP. OKAY. NOW, SUBSEQUENTLY CHANGE ORDER AFTER CHANGE ORDER HAVE COME THROUGH.
SO THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO INCREASE. AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS. AND AGAIN, I THE NUMBER THAT WE THINK WE'RE AT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBER THAT TEXDOT CURRENTLY HAS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM ON THE EIGHTH. SO THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF WE HAVE TO START NOW RECONCILING THOSE NUMBERS NOW IN ANTICIPATION FOR LARGER NUMBERS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. RIGHT? SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME. THAT WAY WE DON'T WANT TO COME INTO THIS AT A YEAR FROM NOW AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE CLOSER TO $4 MILLION OF AN ANTICIPATED GAP THAT WE STARTED THIS PROJECT WITH, AND NOW WE'RE WAY ABOVE THAT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME THIS WAY. SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, EXACTLY WHAT THAT GAP IS. BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT KNOWING WE WERE AT A $4 MILLION GAP.
AND ALSO TO YOUR POINT, SIR, ANOTHER POINT OF CONFUSION FOR US WAS THAT TXDOT DID SOMETHING IN THIS PROJECT THAT THEY TYPICALLY DO NOT DO IN ANY OTHER PROJECT, WHICH WAS THAT THEY COMBINED THE TWO PROJECTS THERE, HORIZON BOULEVARD PROJECT WITH OURS. SO INITIALLY WHEN WE GOT THE NUMBERS, THEY WERE LIKE, LIKE SUPER HIGH. THEY WERE LIKE WAY ABOVE WHAT WE EVEN ASKED FOR. RIGHT? SO BECAUSE THEY DID THAT, IT CONFUSED THINGS. AND THEN WE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO RECONCILE THAT AND COME UP WITH A, LIKE AN ACTUAL ESTIMATE. AND IT WAS DIFFICULT. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK. AND THEN IS WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD COMBINED THE PROJECTS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE.
I MEAN, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE. THEY SHOULD HAVE NOT COMBINE THEM LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT CONFUSED US AND IT MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO DETERMINE OR GET A GOOD ESTIMATE AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. BUT NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THEN WE'VE GOT GUILDFORD.
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GUILDFORD HAS A LOT OF GOOD EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS GAP FINANCING, AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN LIKE MAKE MAKE A DETERMINATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO OUR NEEDS ARE FOR THE CITY TO TO COVER THAT THAT LOAN. AND SO MR. RUBIO, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR TXDOT TO GO AHEAD AND COMBINE PROJECTS. DID THEY EVER ARTICULATE A POTENTIAL REASON AS TO WHY THE WIND HADN'T MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION? NO, NOT REALLY. I DON'T THINK THEY MENTIONED THAT TO ME, THAT IT WAS CHEAPER FOR THEM IN THE LONG RUN TO HAVE ONE PRIME CONTRACTOR WORKING ON BOTH PROJECTS SIMULTANEOUSLY. WHERE THERE IT'S IT'S IT'S, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM LOGISTICALLY, RIGHT TO, FOR ONE CONTRACTOR TO HANDLE BOTH BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TIE INS TO THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND SOUTH DARRINGTON AS WELL. SO IT JUST IT JUST TO TO THEM, IT WAS EASIER THAT WAY AND IT KEPT COSTS DOWN. OKAY. AND THEN SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WILL BE THE PRICE TAG, THE ADDITIONAL PRICE TAG TO OBTAIN THOSE ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL FINANCIAL AND OVERSIGHT SERVICES FROM GIL FLOW. SO RIGHT NOW, THE, THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY GAVE US IS $105,000 BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NEED, THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR A CERTIFIED FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE. AND THEN OTHER SERVICES LIKE BOND REVIEWS, RIGHT, RIGHT. THOSE OTHER SERVICES, THEY DID ASK US IF WE HAD THEM, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO GET WITH LEGAL AND DETERMINE THAT. SO NOW THAT MISS FIRTH IS TELLING US, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THOSE WILL BE COVERING OURSELVES. AND SO ARE WE CAPPED AT THAT 105. IS THERE A. YES, SIR. SO THE THE, THE THE RESOLUTION SAYS NOT TO EXCEED THE $105,000. THAT'S CORRECT.AND THEN ALSO, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD RECEIVED NUMBERS FROM TXDOT? THAT WAS LAST MONTH. RIGHT. THE LAST REPORT WE RECEIVED OUR LAST NUMBERS FROM TXDOT. AND IF YOU RECALL, TXDOT WORKS ON TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPENSES. ONE IS FOR CONTRACT AND ONE IS FOR TIME. SO OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE ADDING UP BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGE ORDERS APPROVED. AND ALSO OUR TIME EXPENSES HAS ADDED UP. AND YOU NOTICE THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR TIME SCHEDULE. SO THE TIME SCHEDULE WE HAVE IN THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, A STIPULATION SAYS THAT IF WE GO BEYOND TIME AND IT WAS CAUSED BY THE TOWN, AND THE TOWN HAS TO PAY A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA, THOSE COSTS ARE AROUND $3,700 PER DAY FOR THE EXTENSION. RIGHT NOW, TEX-DOT IS ESTIMATING FOR TIME EXTENSIONS.
IT'S COSTING US RIGHT NOW ABOUT 620 000, AND WE'LL PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT BY THE TIME THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE CAUSE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER ANCILLARY COSTS, SUCH AS THE EMERGENCY CROSSOVER THAT WE APPROVED RECENTLY. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S DIFFICULT TO GIVE AN EXACT NUMBER NOW. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MEET WITH TXDOT NEXT MONTH AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT GAP WILL BE. THEN THE CLOSING TIMELINE, I UNDERSTAND, OR THE CLOSING DATE OF MAY 2027. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS FLUID. WHAT IS THE LATEST THAT THAT TIMELINE CAN BE PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON PROJECT CHANGES? LET'S SAY RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETED IN AUGUST. LET'S SAY FOR SOME REASON IT'S PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 MONTHS. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THIS TIMELINE? TEX-DOT HAS NOT ADDRESSED THAT, BUT IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD GO BEYOND AUGUST 27TH OF NEXT YEAR. IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ANTICIPATING. HOW HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE THE FINANCING TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD JUST PUSH IT OUT, PUSH IT OUT FURTHER? SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TIMELINE FOR IT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE APPLICATION CAN BE SUBMITTED AT ANY TIME, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET, GET AHEAD OF THIS. SO IT WOULD JUST PUSH BACK THIS TIMELINE FOR US. OKAY. YES, SIR. THEN I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COME ON. NO. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY ALDERMAN QUIROZ AND A SECOND FROM ALDERWOMAN AIMS. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA I QUIROZ I ORTEGA AVILA I AMES I GUARDIAN I MENDOZA. I AND MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. SO WE STILL HAVE 27 MORE AGENDA ITEMS
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TO GO. SO BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HORIZON CITY 14. YOU LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM. YOU DID A TREMENDOUS JOB. AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING HORIZON CITY. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU GUYS HERE NEXT MONTH. AND WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. WE'LL SEE YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU.