[1. CALL TO ORDER; PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE; ESTABLISHMENT OF QUORUM:] [00:00:11] IT IS 6:00, AND IT IS THE START OF THE REGULAR MEETING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.& IF YOU ALL WOULD PLEASE RISEE& AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OFF& ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THEE& UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ANDD& TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ITT& STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? OR PLANNING DEPARTMENT? ITEM FOR A REQUEST. ITEM. FORESEE. REQUEST. FOR A AND FORESEE. RELATIVE. DO& I HAVE A MOTION TO DELETE ITEM FOUR A SO MOVED SECOND. CAN WE PULL THEM TOGETHER AND WE DO THEM TOGETHER? OR DO WE HAVE TO& BE SEPARATELY COMBINE THEM? WOULD THAT BE INCLUDING FORESEE& MR. YES. YES. DOES YOUR SECONDD& STILL COUNT? GREAT. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL THE COMMISSION? I. MENENDEZ HIGH, HI, RODRIGUEZ& HI, BARRY. HI. HI. BORREGO. HI. AND I THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM. NEXT. WE HAVE NUMBER THREE OPEN FORUM. NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WOULD ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION? THANK YOU. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE ITEM FOUR'S 40 WAS WAS [4. PUBLIC HEARINGS] DELETED. SO IT'LL BE FOUR VV& DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION BY PLANNING DIRECTOR ON THEE& SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY REPLATT& APPLICATION FOR HORIZON MANOR UNIT THREE REPLAT EIGHT CASE NUMBER SC 25 000 FOR LEGAL USE OF A PORTION OF LOT 19, BLOCKK& NINE HORIZON MANOR, UNIT THREE HORIZON, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS,& CONTAINING 2.263 ACRES, MORE OR LESS APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE SLR ENGINEERING. GOOD EVENING,,& MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS,,& OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SOO& THIS ITEM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK RECAP ON IT, IF YOUU& RECALL, THIS ITEM WAS THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE KEPT POSTPONING BECAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO BE A& CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. THAT'S SINCE HAPPENED ALREADY. SO WE'RE BRINGING YOU THE APPLICATION, THE CURRENT APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTYY& NOW. SO THIS IS HORIZON MANORR& UNIT THREE REPLATTING. IT'S A REPLAT AND IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF OPOSSUM CIRCLE AND WEST OFF& WAYNESBURG STREET. THE REQUEST CURRENTLY IS FOR A PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY REPLAT. THEY'LL BE COMING BACK WITH THE FINAL REPLAT LATER FOR A 16 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. AS FAR AS PARKLAND AND DEDICATION,,& THERE IS NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS. IT'S ONLY 16 LOTS, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED PARK FEES IN THE AMOUNT OF 6400, WHICH THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY PRIOR TOO& RECORDING. OKAY. ON THE LEFT IS THE AERIAL MAP AND YOU SEE THE PROPERTIES IN BLUE. ADJACENT TO& POSSUM CIRCLE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE OFF OF JONESBORO. SO ALTOGETHER ARE GOING TO BEE& PLOTTING IT INTO A A 16 LOT SUBDIVISION. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE ZONING MAP. IT'S CURRENTLY R2. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION OF IT. THIS IS THE REPLAT PROPOSED REPLAT. AND AGAIN IT'S GOING TO BE 16 LOTS. YOU CAN SEE THEM HIGHLIGHTED ON& THERE IN YELLOW. AND THEN INN& BLUE IS THE EXISTING RIGHTS OFF& WAY. THERE IS NO PROPOSED ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY OR NONE& IS REQUIRED AS IT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE. OKAY. THESE ARE THE EXISTING RIGHTS OF WAY. THEY'RE BOTH 60 FOOT RIGHTS OFF& WAY. OLDER WHITE SURVEYS THATT& WERE DONE IN THE COUNTY, PRIMARILY 60 FOOT 60 FOOTERS. [00:05:03] GO AHEAD. WITH THAT, THERE WERE& NO ADVERSE OR COMMENTS. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVALL& OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR 4.2 APARTMENTS. SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE.& YES, SIR. THE LOTS THAT ARE NEXT TO IT. WHAT ARE THOSE ARE ARE ONES THE. THE THE EXISTING. WHAT IT WAS IS THAT IT'S IT'SS& CURRENTLY USED. THE MIDDLE PART& IS CURRENTLY USED AS A POND. YEAH I KNOW THAT. SO KNOW THE HOUSE. LOTS THAT ARE THERE..& THREES. RIGHT ADJACENT TO THAT. I MEAN I'M SORRY I CAN'T POINT TO SURROUNDED BY IT. WHAT AREE& THEY. THE ARTERIES. AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN R2'S. WHAT IT WAS IS& THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WAS THEY TRY TO DO A REQUEST TO REZONE IT TO R4 FOR DUPLEXES, BUT THAT WAS DENIEDD& BY COUNCIL. THAT WAS DENIED. SO NOW IT'S R2. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE THE PROPERTIES IN WHITEE& ARE R2. THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT ARE DID YOU GET YOU DIDN'T GET DID YOU SENDD& EVERYBODY ELSE LETTERS THATT& THAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE OUR TWOS. THAT'S GOING TO THAT'SS& GOING TO. AFFECT AFFECT THE THE PRICE OF THEIR OF THEIRR& PROPERTIES. SO AT THIS POINT,,& SIR, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T NOTIFY BECAUSE THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A REZONING. SO IT'S ALREADY SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN EFFECT. BUT IT SHOULD THEN IT SHOULD BE OUR THREES IF IT'S IN EFFECT. WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT THE WHAT THEY DID THE REQUEST. THAT'S NOTT& WHAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED. THEY& APPROVED AN R2. THEY DENIED THE& R4 THAT THEY WANTED FOR DUPLEXES. AND THEN THEYY& APPROVED AN R2 INSTEAD. WHY NOT& WHY NOT CONFORM WITH R3 ANDD& JUST CARRY THAT THROUGHOUT? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THINKING WAS BACK THEN WHEN THE COUNCIL DID THAT, BUT DID THE WE DID THEE& SAME THING OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT IT DECREASES THE VALUE OF THE, OF THE PEOPLEE& AROUND THEM. RIGHT. AND IF THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT WAS A THATT& WASN'T A COMPLETE A COMPLETEE& PROCESS OF HAVING EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. MR..& MELINDA'S, ARE YOU REFERENCING THE ONES NEXT TO HORIZON HIGHH& SCHOOL? NO, WE'RE. YEAH, THEE& ONES TWO WE TALKED ABOUT. YEAH,& WE WERE HERE ACROSS. YES, SIR..& TO MAKE SURE I REMEMBER IT WAS A SIMILAR QUESTION TOPIC. THEYY& HAD ALREADY MADE THE DECISIONN& ON ON CHANGING IT TO AN R2. CORRECT. THE COUNCIL HAD HAD ALREADY VOTED ON THAT. YEAH. IT WASN'T IT WASN'T US. BUT THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS NOT FOR..& BUT THEY DENIED IT AND THEY DIDN'T DO AN R3. THEY DID INN& OUR IN OUR TWEET. AND JUST FORR& THE SAKE OF AUDIENCE AND EVERYBODY HERE, WHAT IS THEE& MAJOR DIFFERENCE BESIDES SIZE? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. IT'SS& JUST LIKE THE SETBACKS AREE& PRETTY MUCH ALL THE SAME. THE 20, THE FRONT 20 IN THE REAR,,& THE FIVE ON THE SIDES. AND THEN THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT IS THAT THE THE R2 HAS A LARGER REQUIREMENT FOR LOT SIZE THANN& WE HAVE TO. SO IS IT LARGER LOTS THAN WHAT'S THERE. RIGHT. SMALLER LOTS ARE LARGER. THE NEW ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE 166& IT'S GOING TO BE 16. LOTS AREE& GOING TO BE LARGER. SO IF ANYTHING IT'LL HAVE A TAX IMPLICATION. I WILL GO BACK AND CONFIRM IT. BUT LOOKING AT THE RECORD, WE HAVE TO GO BACK ON THE RECORD BECAUSE THEY HADN'TT& MISLABELED ON THE ZONING MAP FROM LIKE 2013. SO WHEN WE WENT& BACK TO LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS& CITY COUNCIL ACTION ON IT, WHEN THEY DID THAT REQUEST, I THINKK& THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD DONE AT R2& BUT I'LL GO BACK AND CONFIRM IT& JUST TO MAKE SURE BEFORE IT GOES TO THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FINAL PHASE, FOR THE FINAL APPROVING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY. THE COUNCIL ACTION ANDD& EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO IT.& OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. YES MA'AM. ANY OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS? II& JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT'SS& GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE THE THAT PONDING AREA THAT'S THERE.& SO THE PREVIOUS OWNER STILL OWNS IT AND HE'S IN IN TALKS WITH THE CITY TO FOR THE CITYY& TO PURCHASE IT. SO THE CITYY& COULDN'T PURCHASE IT. OKAY. SOO& IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED. CORRECT. IT'S THAT ONE. AND ALSO THEE& BREEZEWAYS. RIGHT? THE ALLEYS. THE BUSWAYS. THERE'S AN ALLEYY& THAT LEADS TO IT FROM ON THE WAYNESBORO. YES. BUT THOSE. II& THINK THOSE ARE EXISTING EASEMENTS. WE DID ASK FOR ANN& EXTENSION OF EASEMENT TO THE BACK A LITTLE WIDER, BUT THE OTHER ONES, I BELIEVE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE CURRENTLY EXISTING. YEAH. WELL YOU HAVEE& THAT THE ALLEY THERE. BUT DO YOU HAVE A LIFT STATION THERE IN FRONT. SO THAT AGAIN YOU [00:10:03] HAVE A LIFT STATION THERE FROMM& AIR. OH YES SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF OWNERSHIP CHANGES, THE THE PONDING WILL STILL HAVE TO STAY OUT OF NECESSITY. RIGHT? YES, SIR. YEAH. THE CITY IS INTENT ON GETTING THAT POND BECAUSE THEY NEED IT. I MEAN,,& ALL THE WATER IS CURRENTLY DRAINING TO THAT. THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THE WITH THE DEAL. LEGAL'S BEEN WORKING WITH& THE PREVIOUS OWNER TO TRY TO GET THE OR THE CURRENT OWNER TO TRY TO FINISH THE DEAL, AND. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. RUBIO? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT. MOTION, PLEASE. JOLLY. HI, MELENDEZ. HI. HI, RODRIGUEZ. HI, BARRY. A CORRAL, A BORREGO..& BUILD SOMETHING ON IT. PARKER. HI. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM 4D DISCUSSION RECOMMENDATION BY PLANNING DIRECTOR ON THEE& RESUBMITTED COMBINATION PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR RANCHO UNIT 16. CASE NUMBER& AS YOU SEE, 25 0006. AND TOO& AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE RECORDING PLAT, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LATE CLARK SURVEY NUMBER TWO, 97, TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 21.481 MORE OR LESS ACRES..& APPLICATION SUBMITTED BYY& APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE TREEE& AND ASSOCIATES. MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS RUBIO AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS IS A RESUBMITTAL OF RANCHO UNIT 16. THIS HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE THE PNC AND THE CITYY& COUNCIL. IT WAS APPROVED. HOWEVER, THEY RAN INTO SOME OBSTACLES AS FAR AS FINISHINGG& THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE. THEY& HAD GOTTEN AN EXTENSION, BUT IT STILL WASN'T ENOUGH. THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO FINISH THEE& IMPROVEMENTS, SO THEY NEEDED TO RESUBMIT. OTHERWISE IT'LL IT'LL EXPIRE. AND THEY'LL YOU KNOW, WELL, IT DID I MEAN, IT'S GOODD& TO REAPPLY IN OCTOBER AND ITT& WON'T BE DONE BY THEN. SO THEY'LL NEED TO RESUBMIT IT. SO THIS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND NORTH OF CLARET CUP. AND WHAT IT IS, IT'S A COMBINATION PLAT, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL FOR 74 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. ACCESS IS FROM WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND NORTH OF CLARK, AND THEN AS FAR AS PARKLAND. DEDICATION. IF& YOU RECALL THIS, THIS WAS STILL UNDER THE CREDITS THAT THEY HAD& SO IT SATISFIED CREDITS. THE CREDIT SIDE IS I'M SORRY, THE CREDIT SATISFIED THE FEES ANDD& PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO THEY DIDN'T THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO EITHER. WAY. ON THE LEFT IS THE AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT PROPERTY. IT'S ALL TO THE NORTH. IT'S CURRENTLY BEING BUILT OUT. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS M-1 INDUSTRIAL. MOSTLY VACANT EXCEPT FOR ONE DOMINANCE THERE. OKAY, THIS IS LOCATION MAP. AND THIS IS THE THE SUBDIVISION. THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION ITSELF IN YELLOW IS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SUBDIVISION..& AND THEN THE LIGHTER BLUE IS THE ACTUAL RIGHTS OF WAY. AND THEN THE DARKER BLUE IS THE POND ITSELF THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. OKAY. THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT. AGAIN THE BOUNDARIES IN YELLOW..& LIGHTER BLUE IS THE RIGHTS OFF& WAY. AND THEN THE DARKER BLUE IS UPON ITSELF TO THE FAR BOTTOM. SO SOUTHWEST THESE ARE THE PROPOSED RIGHTS OF WAY ISS& AN EXTENSION TO THE 76 FOOT. RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S GOING TO BE CLERICAL PLACE. AND THEN ON ONN& THE BOTTOM IS THE INTERNALL& STREETS, 52 FOOT RIGHTS OF WAYY& THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION. WITH THAT, THERE'S NO PENDING OR ADVERSE COMMENTS FROM STAFF. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ONN& MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SECTION 4.2 PRELIMINARY AND SECTION 4.3 FINAL PLAT SUBDIVISIONS. AND THATT& CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE FROM THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE FINAL PLATT& WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL APRIL 9TH, 20 2424. AND THEN THEY GOT AN EXTENSION THAT& WAS GOOD TILL OCTOBER OF 2025. [00:15:05] NOW THIS NEXT ONE. YEAH. OKAY. SO WHAT'S WHAT'S LEFT TO TO DO. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN MESS THAT UP. I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME,& SOME, SOME WORK TO BE DONE ON THE ROADWAYS. RIGHT. IS THERE GOING TO BE A FINANCIAL GUARANTEE? YES. GOOD EVENING,,& CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, KAREN BARRAZA WITHH& TRANE ASSOCIATES. AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO A MAINTENANCE BOND FOR THE TOWN ONCE THE ALL THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. BUT YOU'LL HAVE A YOU'LL HAVE A COMPLETED BEFOREE& BY OCTOBER. NO, THAT'S WHYY& WE'RE DOING THIS APPLICATION. SO WE CAN EXTEND IT FOR A YEARR& SO THEY CAN FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN WE CAN DO IT. SO THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO THE, THE, THE, THE PERFORMANCE BOND IF THEY'RE GOING TO RECORD OR IN THIS CASE THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT ON A NORMAL SCHEDULE. SO THEY ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS SUBMIT THE MAINTENANCE BONDS. ONCE THEY'VE DONE THAT. SMART. I HAVE A QUESTION. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO TO THISS& SPECIFIC PROJECT. I THINK IT'SS& JUST ON THE TIMELINE. SO THEYY& HAVE ESSENTIALLY 18 MONTHS TO BUILD A SUBDIVISION. FROM THE MOMENT IT GETS APPROVED, THEYY& HAVE A YEAR AND ONE SIX MONTH EXTENSION. HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN WHERE IT GETS FINISHEDD& WITHIN THE 18 MONTHS? WITHINN& THE 18 MONTHS? NOT NOT AS OFTEN& WE WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE ACT. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK MORE LIKE I KNOW THE CITY OF EL PASO, THE COUNTY USUALLY GIVES YOU THREE YEARS. AND THEN AT THAT POINT I DON'T THINK THEY GIVE ANN& EXTENSION. THEY REQUIRE THEM TO GET THE BOND FINALIZED. YEAH..& BECAUSE IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET IT DONE IN 18 MONTHS. ITT& GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD THREE YEARS AND WE'D LIKE TO GET THEE& BOND, BUT AT THIS POINT I DON'T THINK YEAH, I THINK WHAT IT ISS& IS THAT HORIZON IS USED TO THE SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS, LIKE 600& TO 70 LOTS, BUT NOW WE'REE& GETTING SOME LARGER ONES, LIKE 100 OR MORE UNITS. SO WE DO NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL TIME TO GO TO LOOK AT ALL BUSINESS UNITS, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE THINKING IS TWO YEARS PLUS A ONE YEAR EXTENSION& RIGHT. OKAY. HOLD ON. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP FORR& DISCUSSION. YES, SIR. GOODD& POINT. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE& A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE..& SECOND, THE MOTION AND ALL. THE QUESTION. OKAY. JOLLY. HI, MELENDEZ. HI, PADILLA. HI, RODRIGUEZ. HI, BURY. A CORRAL. A BORREGO, A PARKER A. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK [5. OTHER BUSINESS] YOU. SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE OTHER BUSINESSES. WE HAVE ITEM FIVE A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE PLANNING ANDD& ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON JUNE 16TH, 2025 JUNE 20TH. I REMEMBER. I WAS HERE TO APPROVE, I WASN'T HERE, I WAS HERE. AND SO WAS MISS PARKER. OKAY, SO PADILLA AND PARKER. YES. YOU WANT ME TO PULL THE COMMISSIONER? YEAH. SO& JOLLY. WHICH MEETING IS THIS??& FROM THE MEETING MINUTES, JUNE 16TH, 2025. I HAVE A MINUTEE& HERE IF YOU WANT TO. THAT'SS& WHAT WE ELECTED OFFICERS. OH, YEAH, I WASN'T PRESENT, SO. I'LL ABSTAIN. OKAY. MELENDEZ. ABSTAIN, ABSTAIN, ABSTAIN. PADILLA I RODRIGUEZ. ABSTAIN. BARRY. EPSTEIN. I BORREGO. HI. AND PARKER. HI. OKAY. SO ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. ANNOUNCEMENTS.& [6. ANNOUNCEMENTS] ITEM SIX A THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING WOULD BEE& MONDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND THEE& MOTION. AND WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING. WE HAVE NO FURTHERR& ANNOUNCEMENTS. IT WOULD TAKE A ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO WE'LL ADJOURN. MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.