[1. Call to order; Pledge of Allegiance; Establishment of Quorum]
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          THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY IS NOW IN SESSION. PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGEE& OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL. HELLO, EVERYONE. WOW, THIS IS THE LOUDEST I THINK MY MICROPHONE HAS EVER BEEN. SO IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, THEN YOU MIGHT GET A LITTLE CLOSER. BUT IT'S NICE TO& SEE EVERYBODY HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TOO& OPEN FORUM, PLEASE. HAS ANYBODY 
          [2. Open Forum]
SIGNED UP FOR OPEN FORUM? THANK YOU. CHIEF. COULD I HAVE SHILOH WARREN, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING. 
          AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO THRE& MINUTES, PLEASE. MRS. SCHULER WILL GO AHEAD AND KEEP A TIMER, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS NOW, AND I'VE SEEN HUNDREDS. AND I DO MEAN HUNDREDS OF ABANDONED DOGS IN THE DESERT. AND I'VE TRIED TO FEED THEM. I'VE TRIED TO GIVE THEM WATER. I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING I CAN TO DO TO HELP THEM. BUT TODAY I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THIS JULY, A PUPPY CAME TO US AND IT WAS NOTHING BUT SKIN AND BONES. 
          SO WE FED IT. WE GAVE IT SOMEE& WATER AND THE NEXT DAY I CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THAT DAY THE DOG WAS HAVING SEIZURES AND I'M NOT QUITE POSITIVE WHY,& BUT I WAS THINKING DEHYDRATION, HEAT STROKE PROBABLY. SO THEY TOOK IT DOWN. A DEPUTY CALLED ME AND SAID, I'M SORRY, BUT I WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BECAUSE MY SUPERVISOR SAID NO. SO THE NEXT DAY ANOTHER DOG ARRIVED AND YOU COULD TELL CLEARLY THAT SHE HAD MILK. SHE HAD PUPPIES. I TRIED TO FOLLOW THIS DOG. I TRIED TOO& HELP THESE PUPPIES. SHE WOULDN'T LET ME ANYWHERE NEAR HER. SO I CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AGAIN AND I SAID, LISTEN, NOW THERE'S PUPPIES IN THE DESERT RIGHT NOW. AND SHE CALLED ME AGAIN AND SHE SAID, I'M SORRY, WE STILL CAN'T COME. I CALLED EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THREE DAYS, AND THOSE PUPPIES DIED IN THE DESERT. EIGHT DAYS AFTER I CALLED, A DEPUTY CAME TO SCAN THESE DOGS, TOLD ME THEY HAVE NO CHIP. BUT GOOD LUCK. THEY'RE YOURS. SHE WISHES TO BE UNNAMED AND TOLD ME NOT TO QUOTE HER, SO I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE HER. BUT SHE SAID WE ARE TOLD TO WAIT FOR AT LEAST FIVE DAYS SO THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE YOURS NOW. SO THE MOM AND DOG NOW STICKS AROUND AND THE FIRST DOG DOES TOO. BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FENCE OR SHELTER FOR THESE DOGS. 
          THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR SEVEN ENTIRE WEEKS IN THE DESERT. I'VE REPEATEDLY SENT VIDEOS DIRECTLY TO THE DEPUTY OF THEM PLAYING I& THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEW JOHN HAYES EXTENSION, AND NO RESPONSE. I'VE ASKED THEM REPEATEDLY, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP& ME GET THEM SPAYED? NO RESPONSE. 
          SO THESE TWO GIRLS ARE GOING TO& TURN INTO TEN, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TURN INTO 20. AND THEN I MEAN, YOU GET THE POINT. AND THIS IS JUST TWO GIRLS. IF YOU TRY TO TAKE THE DOG TO THE SHELTER, THEY SAY, I'M SORRY, YOUR ID IS NOT EL PASO CITY. SO THEY TURN YOU AWAY. WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTED BY OUR GOVERNMENT. WE JUST GET BLATANT ANIMAL CRUELTY. THAT'S ALL WE GET. AND IT'S UNFAIR. IT'S UNFAIR TO US AND IT'S UNFAIR TO& THE ANIMALS. WE NEED ACCESS TOO& SHELTERS, VETS, SPAYING. AND WE NEED IT YESTERDAY. THIS IS NOT A CITIZENS BURDEN TO CARRY. IT'SS& THE GOVERNMENT'S. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE RON? I'M SORRY. IT'S OKAY, I CAN'T READ. RON WORKS FINE. YOU'RE. IT'S CAMO, BUT RON WORKS FINE. RON CAMO. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, SO I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE SINCE DAY ONE. BASICALLY, I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOUR PEOPLE HAVEE& DONE AN AMAZING JOB. CONSIDERING THEIR HANDS ARE TIED. THEY GOTT& NO PLACE TO PUT STRAYS BECAUSE EL PASO ANIMAL SERVICES WON'T TAKE THEM. THEY DON'T TAKE THEM FROM US. WHY ARE THEY GOING TOO& TAKE THEM FROM YOU? HOPEFULLY W& CAN GET THIS PROBLEM RESOLVED. I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE NEED TO COME UP& WITH A SOLUTION SO THAT YOUR 
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PEOPLE WHO WORK SO HARD AT GETTING THIS DONE WITH TIED HANDS FOR ALL THESE YEARS, I MEAN, YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD SINCE 2020 THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR STRAYS. DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY STRAYS WERE CREATED IN YOUR COUNTY SINCE 2020, WITH ALL THESE UNALTERED STRAYS RUNNING LOOSE? THIS IS INSANE. AND ASS& LONG AS WE HAVE A FIREMAN RUNNING OUR SHELTER IN EL PASO, IT AIN'T GOING TO GET ANY BETTER. THE MAN FLAT OUT TOLD ME HE WASN'T GOING TO HOUSE A BUNCH OF STRAYS. WHY IS HE A DIRECTOR& IN EL PASO? WHY IS HE LIMITINGG& YOU ALL? YOU HAD A CONTRACT WITH YOU GUYS. THEY VIOLATED IT. YOU SHOULD HAVE SUED THEM IN 2020. YOU SHOULD HAVE FILED SUIT AGAINST HIM. THEY VIOLATED YOUR CONTRACT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REASON. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ILLEGAL TO DO MANAGED INTAKE IN& THE STATE OF TEXAS. 8260033 YOU CAN LOOK IT UP. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP. OKAY. YOU NEED TO BACK YOUR PEOPLE. YOU NEED TO GET THEM SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S A TEMPORARY LOCATION, SO THAT YOU CAN HOUSE SOME STRAYS AND MAYBE GET SOME ADOPTED. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE RELYING ON RESCUES IN EL PASO, WHICH WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS WORK HARD AT IT. YOUR GUYS DO, BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING. THE REASON WHY THE CITY VOTED FOR YOUR SHELTER ISS& BECAUSE WE KNOW WE GOT NO HELP WITH OURS, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU& PEOPLE DO A BETTER JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. CONRAD GUEVARA. HI. YEAH, THANKS FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY REMARKS THAT ARE ORGANIZED, SO THIS ISS& JUST KIND OF OFF THE TOP OF MYY& HEAD. I KIND OF JUST CAME HERE THE SPLIT SECOND. SO I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I'M AN AVID RUNNER. I GO OUT AND RUN EVERY MORNING. IT'S& KIND OF LIKE A RITUAL FOR ME. AND, YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE, I STARTED ENCOUNTERING DOGS EVERYWHERE, LOOSE DOGS. AND I HAD SO MANY CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, YOU KNOW, WITH AGGRESSIVE PACKS OF DOGS, ESPECIALLY BY THAT TRUCKING AREA. WEAVER AND CAINAZZO, THERE'S LIKE A GROUP OF DOGS OVER THERE ALL THE TIME, AND THEY KIND OF RUN OUT OF THE DESERT, AND THEN THEY RUN BACK INTO THE DESERT, AND I THINK SOMEBODY FEEDS THEM. I'VE KINDD& OF MADE PEACE WITH THEM. 
          FINALLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT I'M I'M NOT A THREAT TO THEM. BUT IT'S JUST I WAS FINALLY BITTEN ON MAY IN MAY WHEN I WAS RUNNING DOWN CAINAZZO TOWARDS DARRINGTON. AND SO I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TURN. INSTEAD OF BLAMING ANIMAL SERVICES, I JUST& THERE SEEMS TO BE KIND OF AN IRRESPONSIBLE KIND OF PERVASIVE ATTITUDE HERE AMONG A LOT OF DOG OWNERS, NOT ALL DOG OWNERS. I KNOW THERE ARE RESPONSIBLE ONES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN YOU GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA SITES, NEXTDOOR RING, PEOPLE ARE GIVING PRAYER EMOJIS. YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF CALLING THESE PEOPLE OUT FOR BEING IRRESPONSIBLE, NOT TAKING PROACTIVE MEASURES. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS AREA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE LOW ROCK WALLS, AND I CAN'T, FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND WHY THESE DEVELOPERS& ARE BUILDING THESE ROCK WALLS SO LOW, KNOWING FULL AND WELL THAT MANY OF THESE OWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE DOGS IN THEIR BACKYARDS AND THE DOG OWNERS, BEFOREE& THEY'RE ADOPTING DOGS. THEY'RE NOT TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PRIVACY FENCE AND GET THEIR, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MEASURES ARE TAKEN TO SECURE THE DOG AND THE DOGS ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT, BECAUSE IN 20 PLUS YEARS THAT I LIVED IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODD& IN DALLAS, MAYBE 2 OR 3, YOU KNOW, LOOSE DOG ENCOUNTERS, ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE ABLE TOO& CONTAIN THEIR DOGS. SO I THINK THEY'RE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO HERE WITH ORDINANCES. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT ENSURES THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE DOG OWNERS THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO OUT AND ADOPT DOGS. 
          THEY GET THESE MEASURES TAKEN CARE OF TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO BEGIN WITH. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST LAST WEEK I WAS READING AN ARTICLE, SAN BERNARDINO, CALIFORNIA, 17 YEAR OLD GIRL NEARLY MAULED TOO& DEATH. AND I MENTION IT BECAUSE THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SIMILAR KIND OF DESERT LIKE AREA, A LOT OF OPEN PROPERTIES WITH NO FENCE OR LOOSE FENCING, AND DOGS ARE JUMPING OUT AT PEOPLE. THIS GIRL WAS JUST WALKING TO A PARK ON A ON A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY EVENING OR DURING THE MORNING, AND WAS VICIOUSLY MAULED ALMOST TOO& DEATH. SHE SPENT THREE WEEKS IN& THE HOSPITAL AND THE PICTURES OF HER HORRIBLE. I MEAN, SHE HAS JUST MARKS ALL OVER HER BODY AND I FEAR. AND I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF. I'M. I'M A GROWN MAN. BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT KIDS? WHAT ABOUT ELDERLY PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE VULNERABLE. IT COULD HAPPEN HERE. DOGS ARE NOT DIFFERENT HERE THAN THEY ARE IN OTHER PLACES. SO I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT CAN STIFFEN THE FINES AND MAKE IT 
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REALLY HURT WHERE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, HEY, THIS IS I NEED CORRECTIVE BEHAVIOR HERE, CORRECTIVE ACTION TO CORRECT MY, MY BEHAVIOR. SO THAT'S PRETTYY& MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME..& APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE MISS MARISOL SANCHEZ& PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME& IS MARISOL SANCHEZ, AND I WANTED TO ALSO EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING THE ABANDONED ANIMALS IN THE DESERT. FOR A WHILE NOW,& I'VE BEEN SEEING POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN ROAMING AROUND FOR WEEKS. OR A DOG THAT WAS ABANDONED FOR MONTHS AGO. S& I DECIDED TO START COMING AND FEEDING THESE DOGS AND LOOK AFTER THEM. I JUST STARTED AN ORGANIZATION THAT FOCUSES ON DESERT DOGS, SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND SPONSORS TO GET THESE DOGS SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND HOLD ADOPTION EVENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES IN EL PASO ANDD& OTHER RESCUES IN TEXAS. AND ALL THIS TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FEEDING THESE DOGS, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO WORKERS THAT ALSO LOOK AFTER THE DOGS, MAINLY THE TRUCK DRIVERS, AND THEY ALL EXPRESS THE SAME CONCERN, YOU KNOW, AS I DO, THAT THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING HELP WHEN THEY CALL A DOG IN. AND MANY OF THESE WORKERS END UP TAKING THE DOGS HOME AND THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, KEPT PUPPIES AND THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T TAKE ALL THE DOGS WITH THEM. THIS PASTT& WEEKEND, WE RESCUED A DOG BY CAINAZZO AND WEAVER. SHE GAVEE& BIRTH IN THE DESERT AND SHE HAD SEVEN PUPPIES IN BETWEEN. LIKE THESE GIANT LIKE, HUMAN SIZED CYLINDERS. AND WE WERE THERE FOR TWO DAYS JUST LOOKING AFTER HER UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO CALL TOO& OTHER RESCUERS THAT CAME OVER AND ALLOWED US TO AND ALLOWED US TO MOVE THE CYLINDERS AND GET HER OUT, HER AND THE PUPPIES TO& SAFETY. UNFORTUNATELY, TWO PUPPIES HAD ALREADY PASSED AWAY, BUT RIGHT NOW THE MOM IS DOING OKAY AND THE PUPPIES ARE DOING OKAY. AND AFTER WE WERE DONEE& WITH ALL THAT, THE I DON'T KNOW WHO HE WAS. THE ANIMAL OFFICER CAME AND TOOK A LOOK AROUND AND SAID OKAY AND LEFT. SO I MEAN, WE HAD DONE PRETTY MUCH THE WORK FOR HIM. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A LOT. I MEAN, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. SOO& THE SOLUTION HAS TO BE A BIG SOLUTION. BUT I THINK IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, SMALLER SOLUTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM THEY WILL GIVE US LONG TERM RESULTS. I VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NEEDED FOR THESE ANIMALS. I'M HERE TO PROPOSE FEEDING AND WATER STATIONS. SO AND GIVINGG& THE PEOPLE THAT FEED THESE ANIMALS THE RESOURCES TO FEED THESE ANIMALS AS WELL. SPAY AND NEUTER OF THE STRAYS ALREADY IN THE DESERT. TEMPORARY SHELTER DURING EXTREME HEAT, EXTREME HEAT AND COLD FOR THESE DOGS AND CATS. FINES FOR BREEDERS. WHEN I WAS COMING TO FEED ONE OF THE DOGS, I SAW A COUPLE SELLING PUPPIES AND I CALLED. I CALLED THEM IN AND THEY SAID, OH YEAH,& WE'RE GOING TO GO. AND THEN THE NEXT DAY I PASSED BY AND THEYY& WERE STILL THERE, WHICH MEANS NO ONE EVER WENT TO FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN& SELLING PUPPIES. STILL, ALSO IN ALBUQUERQUE, THEY HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE HEART ORDINANCE, WHERE THEY GIVE FINES FOR UNSPAYED AND UNNEUTERED PETS. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING AND REALLY HELPFUL HERE ALSO FOR THE DOGS. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. WELL, BEING THAT THERE ARE NO MORE SIGNED UP, WE'LL GO AHEADD& 
          [CONSENT AGENDA ]
AND MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. I'LL SEE IF I CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXCUSE ALDERMAN QUIROZ AND THE REST OF& THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION TOO& APPROVE. SO MOTION SECOND, THE MOTION. I HAVE A QUICK AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE AMENDMENT. THAT ITEM SEVEN OF THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT. ELBA RAMOS AND JOSUE MENDOZA ALSO SPOKE ON THIS ITEM. I'M SORRY, SIR, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? MY MICROPHONE WAS. S& I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE AMENDMENT. THAT ITEM SEVEN OF THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES BE UPDATED TOO& REFLECT THAT. ELBA RAMOS AND JOSUE MENDOZA ALSO SPOKE ON THE ITEM. OKAY. DOES YOUR MOTION STILL HOLD ON THAT? YES. AND YOUR SECOND, SIR? YES. OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. 
          HI, AMES. HI, MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. THIS IS ON A 
          [6. PRESENTATION]
PRESENTATION BY ANNETTE GUTIERREZ, RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 
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ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW FIV& YEAR COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC STRATEGY. KIDS. HI, THERE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ANNETTE GUTIERREZ, AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. MAYOR RENTERIA IS ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. AND TODAY I HAVE WITH ME ADRIANA PALACIO, WITH THEE& CITY OF EL PASO. THROUGH THE ECONOMIC AND INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND SO WE'LL BE BRIEF WITH OUR THANK YOU, WITH OUR PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT THAT YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOURR& AGENDA, BUT THIS IS JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS& AN ORGANIZATION AND HOW IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR ON THE SLIDES HERE, WE JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY DOCUMENT AS WE REFER TO AS CEDS. AND SO WHA& IS IT? IT'S A REGIONAL STRATEGIC DOCUMENT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S IT IS ORGANIZED AND MANAGED BY OUR ORGANIZATION, THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. WE ARE REQUIRED BY OUR FUNDING AGENCY, WHO IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, TOO& PREPARE THIS REPORT EVERY FIVEE& YEARS AND TO GIVE A REGIONAL OUTLOOK ON OUR AREAS WITHIN THE SIX COUNTIES THAT WE COVER IN TEXAS. AND WE ALSO INCLUDE NEW MEXICO FOR DONA ANA COUNTY AND LAS CRUCES AS WELL. AND THEN ADRIANA WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT TO YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT INCENTIVES WE'RE OFFERING OR THE COLLABORATION OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD WITH WITH JUAREZ, MEXICO AS WELL. SO AGAIN, THE WHOLE GOAL BEHIND THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE SOME RESULTS ORIENTED REGIONAL VISION FOR OUR AREA THAT WE SERVE. SO HERE IS A MAP SHOWING YOU THESE COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT WITHINN& THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. WE DO COVER AGAIN THESE SIX COUNTIES IN TEXAS, BUT WE'RE WE BENEFIT AS WELL FROMM& HAVING PARTICIPATION FROM CITY OF LAS CRUCES AND DONA ANA COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE TRIBE. SO THESE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH FOR THIS INITIATIVE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE OVER 50 PARTICIPANTSS& THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS INITIATIVE. WE HAVE MANY GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS AS WELL, INCLUDING THE ELL& PASO COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT EL PASO, AND NONPROFITS. SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS TO GO ABOUT DOING IT THIS WAY, IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF EL PASO FOR THIS INITIATIVE, IS BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WHERE WE ARE PARTNERING WITH ALL OUR ENTITIES. CITY OF EL PASO ISS& TAKING A REALLY BIG LEAD IN THIS EFFORT, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING VERY MANY OF THESE CEDS APPROACHES T& THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INN& TERMS OF HOW THEY OPERATE AS A CITY. SO WE THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES CAN MAYBE, PERHAPS DUPLICATE THAT EFFORT AS WELL. 
          AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THAT ONCE WE DO THE CEDS, YOU'R& ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU CAN ALSO, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTS PACKAGED TOGETHER, OUR APPROACHES MIGHT BE ARE GOING T& BE UNIFIED. THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR APPLYING TO NEW FUNDING SOURCES, SUCH AS THAT WITH STATE AND FEDERAL, AND ALS& LOOKING AT PHILANTHROPY, FDI OR THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ALIGNING THESE POLICIES AND THESE STRATEGIES. 
          AND SO WE'RE FINDING THIS MECHANISM THAT WE WANT TO SET IN PLACE FOR ALL OF OUR JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING MEXICO, WHERE WE CAN ALIGN OUR INCENTIVES WITH LAND STRATEGYY& AND PROGRAMS TO THE CEDS PROCESS. AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN TRACK OUR PROGRESS WITH THESE POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THEY'RE MAKING. AND SO BELOW HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT TARGET STRATEGIES WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A AS A CEDS COMMITTEE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING CRITICAL SUPPLY CHAINS, AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE,,& CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, ENERGY& AND RESOURCE RESILIENCE, ECONOMIC RESILIENCE, AND SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT, AS WE SAY, THESE BULLETS TO YOU, ALL THAT IT'S RESONATING WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY AS WELL, IN TERMS OFF& THE WORK AND EFFORTS THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS ALREADY DOING ON YOUR BEHALF. AND IF NOT, THEN WE DEFINITELY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE COLLABORATION WITH EACH OTHER. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AT RAFAEL ARELLANO HAS BEEN SERVING ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES, SUBCOMMITTEES FOR THIS EFFORT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE HEARD IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS AND TOP PRIORITIES OF HORIZON CITY? AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK MISS PALACIO TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PRIORITIZING OUR REGIONAL PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WHAT THE CITY OF EL PASO WILL BE DOING. AND SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT INITIATIVE, IN CASE IT'SS& SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE& CONSIDERING TO UNDERTAKE AS WELL. ADRIANA, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND I HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE RIO COG IN THIS INITIATIVE. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS MAINLY WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PART, BUT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS THAT THAT MAKES IT& KIND OF A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. WE ARE TAKING THE TIME TO, TOO& COLLECT DIFFERENT PROJECTS, IDEAS THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE ACROSS THE REGION. AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE INCLUDING CIUDAD JUAREZ AND THE STATE OF CHIHUAHUA, BECAUSE IT IS HARD T& TALK ABOUT A REGION WITHOUT 
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INCLUDING THEM AS WELL. SO AND THERE'LL BE A SLIDE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WHERE THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SUBMIT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. ONCE WE RECEIVE THEM, WE'RE GOING TOO& SPLIT THEM INTO TWO CATEGORIES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES THAT ARE JUST REALLY GOOD IDEAS, THINGS THAT HAVE WORKED BEFORE, THINGS& THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN MIND FOR THE FUTURE. AND WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO FOR FUNDING, THAT ALREADY HAVE FEASIBILITY STUDIES, THAT HAVE ENGINEERING,& THAT HAVE ALL OF THESE STEPS READY TO GO. AND IT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THESE PRIORITIES ARE, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO, AND THE SHARED VISION FOR THE NEXT FIVE& YEARS. AND THIS WAY WE'LL BEE& ABLE TO BE SUPPORTIVE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO FORM COALITIONS. WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WEE& THAT WE CAN MAKE SAFE INVESTMENTS AND THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF HAVE THAT OUTREACH IT REALLY TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SO CLOSE TOO& EACH OTHER. IT'S WORTH BEING AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, IDEAS OF ALL OF THESE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER SO WE CAN FIND WAYS TO TEAMWORK AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE HAPPEN. SO ONCE WE GET THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO, WE'LL PUT THEM THROUGH THAT BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS. IT WILL HELP US IDENTIFY THE SOCIAL BENEFITS. I& THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED T& KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR, IF THERE ARE OTHER, MAYBE NONPROFITS OR OTHER PARTS OF THE REGION THAT ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING SIMILAR. SO WE CAN DEVELOP THAT TOGETHER. AND PART OF THE HOPE HERE AND WHAT WE'VE GOT LISTEDD& IS TO BE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCILS ACROSS THE REGION, INCORPORATING ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE ALL OF THIS, A KIND OF ARTICULATED INT& A LARGER PICTURE AND LOOKING AT GIVING DIRECTION FOR REVENUE GENERATING, GENERATING ASSETS. SO MAYBE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO THAT WAY AND IT WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL USERS OR POTENTIAL COMPANIES OR INDUSTRIES THAT WILL USE THAT SPACE AND BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH YOU AND HELP THEM LOCATEE& HERE AS WELL. OKAY. SO THISS& RIGHT HERE IS JUST SHOWING YOU WHERE HOW WE STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A STEERING COMMITTEE. WE'VE MET SEVERAL TIMES. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THIS THURSDAY. AND SOO& WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING OUR LATEST FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES, HOW THEY'VE MET, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THEY'VE SET. WE'RE ALSO CONDUCTING THE PROJECT INVENTORY. AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT INTAKE FORM THAT WE'DD& LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE NOW MOVING INTO THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT. SOO& IN ADDITION TO HAVING THIS MEETING WITH WITH OUR COUNCIL CITY COUNCILS, WE WANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OUT IN THE IN EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES SO WE CAN TALK TO BUSINESSES,,& INTERESTED CITIZENS FROM THE PUBLIC JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IT IS, THAT OF OUR INTENTION. AND THEN WE'LL START LOOKING AT DRAFTING THE CEDS DOCUMENT, AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTATION OFF& THAT DOCUMENT ITSELF. OKAY. AND HERE ARE TWO WAYS TO ACCESS THAT SUBMISSION PROCESS. YOU'LL SEE A LINK AT THE TOP. AND FOR ANYONE& THAT MIGHT BE SEEING THIS MEETING, THEY CAN ACCESS THAT QR CODE. AND IT WILL BRING UP WHAT& WE SEE THERE THE CEDS PROJECT INTAKE FORM. IT'S JUST GOING TO& GATHER SOME BASIC INFORMATION. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE TITLE OF& THE PROJECT. YOU'LL SEE A TITLE A PROJECT SPONSOR, AND THAT'S JUST THE PERSON OR THE AGENCY THAT'S GOING TO SEE THE PROJECT THROUGH TO THE END. A BRIEF DESCRIPTION WHERE IT ALIGNS WITH SETS, PRIORITIES. WE'VE GOT THOSE LITTLE CHECKBOXES THERE. THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF IMPACT. 
          IT COULD BE THE CITY, IT COULD BE THE COUNTY. IT COULD BE A LARGER PART OF THE REGION. BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THAT AWARENESS. AND THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE OUTCOMES THAT WE EXPECT. AND THEY COST ESTIMATE. THE COST ESTIMATE IS VERY MUCH AN ESTIMATE. WE REALIZE THAT PRICES CHANGE, THINGS CAN HAPPEN. SO JUST A GENERAL BALLPARK WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPLIT THEM INTO THOSE TWO CATEGORIES AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, THE ONES THAT STILL NEED A LITTLE BIT OF WORK BEFORE THEY GRADUATE INTO A FUNDING IMPLEMENTABLE PROJECT, AND TRY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ANY STUDIES OF ANY WORK THAT MIGHT BE DONE THERE. AND THIS IS WHERE OUR PARTNERSHIP COMES IN WITH CIUDAD JUAREZ AND WITH THE STATE OF CHIHUAHUA AS WELL. ALTHOUGH ANY FUNDS THAT COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO NEED TO STAY ONN& THIS PART OF THE BORDER, IT DOES HELP FOR US TO BE AWARE OF WHAT PROJECTS ARE GOING ON THERE AND HOW WE CAN. TEAMWORK. SO THE EL PASO RECENTLY RECEIVED SOMEE& FUNDS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO USEE& IN A STUDY LOOKING AT THESE ZARAGOZA PORT OF ENTRY. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES O& THE BORDER AND MAYBE DO A LITTL& BIT OF ENGINEERING. AND THIS IS HELPED A LOT WITH A STATE OF CHIHUAHUA. AND WHEN DE FUENTES PARDON MY SPANISH, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A LOOK AND USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE STUDIES OF THEIR OWN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE SAME DATA SETS, THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE& COME UP WITH ARE TRULY EFFECTIVE FOR BOTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT ARE HAVING THE USER IN 
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REALLY IN MIND AS WE GO FORWARD. SO I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TOO& PLEASE FILL ONE OF THESE OUT, AS MANY AS YOU'D LIKE. WE HAVE ABOUT 50 OF THEM RIGHT NOW, AND I WOULD BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE SOME MORE COME FROM THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A COUPLEE& ALREADY, BUT THERE'S STILL AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN AS WE CLOSE OUT, THIS IS JUST OUR NEXT STEPS AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I GET WITH DOCTOR QUESADA AND MR. RUBIO TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS MAYBE, PERHAPS ONE OF THOSE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED BECAUSE THROUGH THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY, WE'VE HEARD GREAT PRESENTATIONS ON THE VISION THAT YOU'VE SET..& SO WE DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS A VIABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AS WELL. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR NEXT STEERING COMMITTEE AGAIN,,& MEETING THIS WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR OUTREACH THIS SUMMERR& AND FALL, AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE PROJECTS, SUBMISSIONS TO BE SUBMITTED BY SEPTEMBER. THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HAVING THE DOCUMENT PUBLISHED AND READY FOR COMMENT IN OCTOBER, AND THEN FOR CITY COUNCIL WITH EL PASO. THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT AND APPROVING IT WITH WITH THE INTENT OF THEM APPROVING IT AT THEIR NOVEMBERR& 20TH, 2025 MEETING. AND THEN WE'LL BE READY TO SEND THIS OFF TO THE ECONOMIC ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL PAUSE HERE IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR US THAT WE CAN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE WITHH& THE RIO GRANDE COG. I WILL SAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH IT AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL, THE RIO GRANDE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR ALL AGENCIES HERE IN IN OUR PART OF THE WORLD. RIGHT. SO EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR FUNDIN& AND THE RIO GRANDE COG DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH THEIR OUTREACH& AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WE'RE NOT FORGOTTEN OUT HERE IN WEST TEXAS. SO THAT'S KIND OF A YOU KNOW, IT'S REASSURING TOO& KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONTINUING THAT THAT FIGHT FOR US. AND NOW WITH THE CITY OF EL PASO, WE APPRECIATE THE HELP. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. GUTIERREZ OR. YES, SIR. I'M WONDERING COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IF SOME OF THE PROJECTS SUBMISSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THUS FAR LOOK LIKE..& OKAY, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT ONE IN TERMS OF THE MOST OF THE PROJECTS SO FAR HAVE BEEN AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE OR SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT? SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMING FROM SOME OF OUR NONPROFITS THAT WANT TO START PROGRAMS, LIKE MAYBE LIKE OFFERING FREE WEBSITES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO IN THEIR REQUEST, IN THEIR COST ESTIMATE, THEY'RE SPECULATING MORE OR LESS WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO GET THOSE WEBSITES GOING, THE COSTT& OF MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN TRAIN BUSINESS OWNERS SO THEY CAN KEEP IT UP AND HAVE THAT PART GOING. OTHERS HAVE BEEN AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE MORE LIKE MAYBE LIKE ROADS CONNECTING TO THE PORTS OF ENTRY OR CONNECTING COMMERCIAL AREAS SO WE CAN INCREASE SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THERE. BUT IT CAN BE A PRETTY WIDE SET OF PROJECTS OR IDEAS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. SO WE CAN LOOK AT ANYTHING WITH MAYBE RENEWABLE ENERGY. WE CAN LOOK AT HOUSING, WE COULD LOOK AT A DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A REGION. AND THEN ON THAT NOTE, ASIDE FROM OUR TOD PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, ARE THERE ANY PREEXISTING STUDIES THAT HAVEE& BEEN CONDUCTED IN HORIZON THAT YOU ALL ARE USING TO BETTER INFORM YOUR PROCESS? I WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY WITH WITH THE RAFAEL TO SEE IF HE HAS BEEN INSERTING THOSE DOCUMENTS INTOO& THE SUBCOMMITTEES HE'S PARTICIPATING IN. FOR MYSELF, JUST MY IMMEDIATE KNOWLEDGE, I I'M NOT AWARE, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET WITH MR. RUBIO OR DOCTOR QUESADA AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO SEEE& IF WE CAN MAYBE PULL SOME OFF& THOSE STUDIES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY SUGGESTED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE STUDIES THAT CAN BE BECOME PROJECTS, AND THEN WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE INTAKE FORMS. OKAY. I THINK COULD YOU GO BACK& A FEW SLIDES? SURE. INSTEAD OF CLARIFICATION. KEEP GOING. YEAH. RIGHT HERE. SO FOR THE TARGET INDUSTRIES, ARE THESE TARGET INDUSTRIES FOR THE REGION OR ARE THESE SPECIFIC TO HORIZON? NO THEY'RE FOR THE REGION. SO WE'RE OUR HOPE AND ANTICIPATION IS THAT HORIZON CITY WILL ALSO BENEFIT FROM THESE TARGET AREAS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND ON THAT NOTE OF THESE TARGET INDUSTRIES, WHICH ONE IN USING YOUR EXPERTISE WOULD BEST BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY? WELL, I THINK THAT IT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN OUR SMALLER COMMUNITIES,& SMALL BUSINESSES, THE BACKBONE OF EVERY COMMUNITY, I THINK WITH WITH THE SMALLER POPULATION AS COMPARED TO EL PASO. BUT EVEN WITH EL PASO ITSELF, WE'RE WE'RE HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON SMALL BUSINESS. AND EVEN THOUGH WE THINK OF THESE LARGER INITIATIVES LIKE AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE T& PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO SMALL BUSINESS, BECAUSE FROM THAT SMALL BUSINESS CAN CAN BE SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE A HELEN OF TROY DOWN THE ROAD. RIGHT. SO W& ARE PUTTING A LOT OF OUR TIMEE& 
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AND EFFORTS ON THAT. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TECHNOLOGY OF IT. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT CYBERSECURITY. WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT EFFORT. GOING BACK TO THE ENERGY RESILIENCE,,& SO A SMALL BUSINESSES CAN LOOK VERY MUCH. THEY'RE NOT ALL ALIKE. THEY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS ON HOW WE CAN CAPTURE THAT AND HOW WE CAN HEL& THEM DEVELOP INTO A LARGER EXISTENCE THAN THEY ARE NOW. AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. OKAY. WELL II& APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU AGAIN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAKK& UP HERE? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND I'LL SEE YOU AT THE NEXTT& BOARD MEETING. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM. THIS IS ON THE APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026. EL PASO COUNTY 911 DISTRICT ANNUAL BUDGET. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, OUR PRESENTER IS NOT PRESENT AT& THIS TIME. I'VE ALREADY TEXTED HIM AND SENT HIM SOME EMAILS, BUT THERE'S NO RESPONSE. OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT DOWN. 
          WE CAN MOVE THAT BACK TOWARDS THE END AND SEE IF HE IF HE'SS& THERE. SO WE'LL MOVE THAT I GUESS TO THE SO WE'LL TABLE IT. YOU WANT TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING OR WHENEVER HE SHOWS UP. SURE. OKAY. OKAY. SO ARE WE JUST GOING TO ARE WE JUST GOING TO TABLE. YOU WANT A TABLE OR JUST TABLE IT JUST FOR THIS MEETING ITSELF. AND THENN& WE'LL BRING IT BACK. AND IF HE DOESN'T SHOW UP, WE'LL POSTPONE& IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. MOTION TO TABLE. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CAN YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA A ORTEGA. AVILA AMES. GARDEA A 
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MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM. THI& IS ON AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL TERRY CASADA, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MANAGER. I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW. AND I THINK EVERYBODY TRIES. BUT WE LIKE YOUR PRESENTATIONS, DOCTOR. WE REALLY DO. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SEE THEM. THANK YOU. IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE I KNOW. OH THERE'S SOME COOL PICTURES IN THERE TOO. OH. I HAVEN'T SEEN. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD TALK. CLOSELY. OH, SORRY. THIS IS HISTORY. THERE IT IS OKAY, I APOLOGIZE, WE FOUND IT. YOU CAN FINISH YOUR DINNER, SIR. 
          COUNCIL, WE HAVE SOME EXCITING STARTS TO PROJECTS, AND THEN WE& HAVE OUR ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT WITHOUT THEIR CHALLENGES. BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE. AND SOME FORESHADOW SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING LATER IN THIS AGENDA. MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. YOU SEE THE PROGRES& THE SITE WORK CONTINUES WITH LANDSCAPE. I'D INDICATED IN HERE THAT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE WORK WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE ORDER,,& BUT THE CITY HAS DETERMINED THA& THAT WILL NOT BE NECESSARY. SO YOU WON'T BE SEEING THAT THAT CHANGE ORDER, THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING WATER LINE WILL BE PERFORMED BY A CONTRACTOR, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT CONNECTION TO THE WATER LINE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXISTING WATER LINE. 
          THAT'S THE MEDS. AND THEN ONCE THAT WATER LINE IS REPLACED ASS& PART OF THE NORTH DARRINGTON PROJECT, THEN THE CONNECTION TO THAT NEW WATER LINE WILL HAPPEN. THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BOTH BUILDINGS ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND THE EXTERIOR CANOPY ROOF IS ALSO BEING WORKED ON. THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY ON SCHEDULE AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES. THESE WERE JUST TAKEN YESTERDAY, SO THEY ARE FAIRLY FRESH IMAGES. THESE ARE THE INTERIOR AND CONTINUING INTERIOR IMAGES. AND SOME OF THE EXTERIOR IMAGES. YOU CAN SEE THE CANOPY, THE EXTERIOR CANOPY AND THE AERIAL, WHICH I THINK SHOWS KIND OF THE BROAD AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING A& THE SITE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PONDS TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. THE REGIONAL PARK THE CITY IS WORKING ON NEGOTIATING 
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WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE PURCHASE. THE APPRAISAL HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND SO THAT IS CONTINUING. AND FOR THE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDED PROJECTS, WHICH ARE THE LARGER VALUE PROJECTS O& NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION, WE'VE PUT SOMEWHAT OF A PIN ON THE CIB LOAN APPLICATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOWW& WHAT THE FULL COST IS GOING TOO& BE, SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE GAP THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN THAT REQUIRES ACTION FROM THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. 
          SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL OF THE COSTS, BECAUSE IF WE MISS IT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESTART THE PROCESS. AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          DEMOLITION AND MILLING IN THE HORIZON AND HORIZON TO SEAWEED FACES IS ONGOING, AS IS BASE INSTALLATION. EL PASO ELECTRIC HAS COMPLETED THE DESIGN FOR THE CONFLICTED RIDER. WOULD COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT LAST MONTH WE BROUGHT TO YOU AN ITEM THAT ACKNOWLEDGED THIS DARRINGTON AS A CITY PROJECT SO THAT EL PASO ELECTRIC WOULD FUND IT. AND SO, AGAIN, THAT THAT'S MAKING PROGRESS. ON THE POND TREATMENT. THE STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THE CITY CONDUCT GEOTECHNICAL STUDIES TO INFORM THE REVISED DESIGN FOR THE POND. AND THAT'S& AN ITEM THAT COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING LATER IN THIS AGENDA. AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO. AND YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURES FOR THAT IN THAT ITEM FOR THE RODMAN SHARED USE PATH, WE HAVE ISSUED A NOTICE TOO& PROCEED TO THE CONTRACTOR FOR AUGUST 25TH OF 2025. THE SCHEDULED COMPLETION IS APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS, AND DURING THE PRE-CONSTRUCTIONN& MEETING, WE EMPHASIZED TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE NEEDED TOO& HAVE THIS DONE FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AND CROKE PARK, BECAUSE THIS THIS TAKES US RIGHT UP TO CORKY PARK. SO WE EMPHASIZE THAT THAT WAS REQUIRED. LET ME TELL YOU, IT HAD BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN TO A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT. AND OH MY GOODNESS, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE SO DAUNTING THAT I WAS VERY, VERY HAPPY THA& THE CITY HAD CONTRACTED WITH HMA BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSEE& THAT IS GOING TO BE COLLECTING ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR, PROVIDING IT TOO& TEXDOT, AND IT BASICALLY TAKES A VILLAGE FOR THAT PROJECT. MR. RUBIO WAS ONLINE FOR THAT. AND I KNOW THAT THAT HE SAW THAT AS WELL FOR THE TEARS AND TODD UPDATE DESIGN HAS BEGUN ON DILLY DE LAKE AND THE TRANSIT PLAZA. WE'RE COORDINATING WITH STAKEHOLDERS. WE'VE MET WITH THE EL PASO TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR THE TRANSIT PLAZA PROGRAMING, SINCE THEY ARE THE ANTICIPATED USERS OF THAT FACILITY, AND CITY AND ETA PERSONNEL VISITED TO SUN METRO TRANSIT PLAZA. AS THE AIRPORT AND THE TRANSIT PLAZA, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT WE BELIEVE INCLUDE ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT THE CITY WANTS TO INCLUDE SO THAT MANAGES THE SITE. IT PROVIDES AMENITIES FOR THE USERS AND AMENITIES FOR THE DRIVERS. SINCE THIS IS MEANT TO BE A TRANSIT PLAZA THAT IS PRETTY ISOLATEDD& FROM THE REST OF THE SYSTEM, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MANAGE THE COST AND MANAGE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF SUCH A FACILITY. 
          RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL. SO AGAIN, WE SAW SOME ELEMENTS AT BOTH THE AIRPORT AND R.C. POE PLAZAS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE, AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TOO& THE CONSULTANT. JUST AS A REMINDER TO COUNCIL, THIS PROJECT IS ALSO BEING UNDERTAKEN THROUGH THE CAMINO REAL REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY BECAUSE IT MEETS ALL OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR PROCUREMENT AND HOW THE DESIGN IS CONDUCTED AND SUBJECT TO YOUR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. THAT IS THE CIP REPORT. THANK YOU DOCTOR. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'M GOING TO START WITH SOMEBODY ELSE THIS TIME. BUT I THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A QUESTION. SO GO AHEAD DOCTOR CASADA I'M WONDERING. SO DURING THAT VISIT AT THE AIRPORT IN RC PRO TRANSIT PLAZA, WHAT WERE THOSE FEATURES OR PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IN THIS PLAZA FOR HOURS? I'M SURE I'M GOING TOO& MISS SOME OF THEM, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE PRINCIPAL ONES IS. FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE AIRPORT THAT IS A BRIO STATION. AND SO IT'S MEANT FOR THE LARGER ARTICULATED BUSSES. CERTAINLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ANTICIPATES WILL BE REQUIRED THIS EARLY IN IN A TRANSIT SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT. BUT ONE OFF& THE MOST INTERESTING FEATURES IS THAT IT HAD DUAL ACCESS SO THAT& THE BUSSES GO IN THROUGH ONE SIDE OF THE TERMINAL, AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TERMINAL 
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PROVIDES ACCESS FOR RIDESHARE. SO WE THINK THAT THAT'S A VALUABLE ADDITION FOR SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED SO THAT IT IS TRULY MULTIMODAL, RIGHT. IT ALLOWS FOR THAT TRANSFER FROM EITHER TRANSIT TO A RIDESHARE OR RIDESHARE TO TRANSIT. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT KISS AND RIDE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAD MENTIONED, WHERE SOMEONE CAN DROP OFF A PERSON AT THE PLAZA AND THEN GO OFF WITHOUT AFFECTING THE CIRCULATION OF THE OF THE PLAZA. THAT PARTICULAR TRANSIT STATION DOES NOT HAVE PUBLIC BATHROOMS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY THAT WE NEED T& GO, SIMPLY BECAUSE PUBLIC BATHROOMS CREATE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THEY CREATE SECURITY ISSUES. AND CERTAINLY THAT THAT FACILITY FUNCTIONS FINE WITHOUT THOSE. THE PLAZA HAS VERY INTERESTING INDOOR WAITING AREA FOR THE TRANSIT RIDERS. THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THE RIDERS CAN PLUG IN THEIR DEVICES AND CHARGE THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH PROPOSED ROUTE TO UTEP AND TO POTENTIALLY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. IT SEEMS TOO& MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD WANT T& PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM. THE SEATING AREA IS REALLY FUNCTIONAL AND YET QUITE ATTRACTIVE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATED. BOTH OF THE STATIONS HAVE REAL TIME. INFORMATION FOR THE TRANSIT SYSTEM, SO THAT THE USERS WILL KNOW WHEN THE NEXT BUS IS COMING, AND THEY CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. BOTH OF THE STATIONS HAD VENDING FOR BUS FARES. WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITYY& IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH ETA, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE NEED TOO& CONSIDER. THE RC TRANSIT PLAZA HAD AN ATTRACTIVE IT WAS TOO LARGE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE CITY'S PLAZA, BUT IT HAD AN ATTRACTIVE BREAK AREA FOR THE DRIVERS SO THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE BATHROOM. THEY HAVE A REFRIGERATOR WITH ICE SO THEY CAN REFILL THEIR WATER, WATER BOTTLES, ETC. AND IT IS ACCESSIBLE ONLY WITH A CARD, SO IT'S SECURE AND PROTECTED FROM JUST BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. RUBIO HAS OTHER ELEMENTS THAT MAYBE HE WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZ& THAT HE THOUGHT PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE OR FUNCTIONAL ABOUT IT. SO I WILL SAY THAT YESTERDAY WE MET WITH MR. ANDO, WHICH IS THE NEW DIRECTOR FOR ETA. HE, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SO HE'S HE'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB THERE. WE WEN& OVER A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR THAT DESIGN, AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FINALIZE EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE HERE. SO EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. RIGHT. WE NEED TO CHECK TO SEEE& WHAT THE ACTUAL WELL, WHAT THE PROJECTED RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE. AND EVERYTHIN& IS BUDGETED AS WELL. SO I MEAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BIG SPACES, BIG OPEN SPACES FOR, FOR THE RIDERS. WE WOULD LOVE T& HAVE BIG OPEN LOUNGES FOR THE DRIVERS, BUT IT REALLY COMES BACK TO BUDGET. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO HANDLE AS A COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND NOT JUST FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT AS DOCTOR. 
          AS DOCTOR HAD MENTIONED, THE MAINTENANCE AFTER THE FACT. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. SO BUT WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO TRY AND DECIDE WHAT IT IS IT'S GOING TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE& AND WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. I WOULD LET'S, LET'S PUT A LET'S PUT EVERYTHING WE CAN THERE AT THE BEGINNING. RIGHT. THE WISH LIST FOR EVERYBODY. AND THEN WE'LL START KIND OF BREAKING IT DOWNN& AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. YES, SIR. DOCTOR CASALE, I HAD A QUESTION. THE TRANSIT STATION OVER ON RCPO YOU MENTIONED, THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAINTENANCE FREE. I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME ALDERMAN AVILA AND MYSELF WERE WORKING NEAR THAT RC POLE, THEY. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SECURITY GUARDS. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAD, OF COURSE, THE RESTROOMS. AND LASTLY, THEY HAD, I BELIEVE, AN ATTENDANT TO KIND OF GUIDE YOU IF YOU NEEDED TO PURCHASE, WHETHER RIDESHARE TICKETS OR GIVE YOU DIRECTIONS OR TIMES FOR, LET'S SAY, THE ROUTES, WOULD WE HAVE ANY KIND OF LIKE A KIOSK BEING THAT OR DO WE ACTUALLY WOULD WOULD IT ALSO HAVE ANY KIND OF ATTENDANT? RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT THINKINGG& THAT THERE WILL BE AN ATTENDANT COUNCIL MEMBER. IT'S AGAIN, ASS& THE MAYOR INDICATED, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON ON RIDERSHIP. WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN WORK AGAIN WITH ETA AND DEVELOP KIND OF MORE OF A SELF-SERVE SYSTEM SO THAT THE RIDERS CAN GET AN APP 
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RIGHT AND HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, THE INFORMATION THAT'S COMING LIVE ON THEIR ONN& THE SCREENS ALSO PROVIDE SOME O& THE GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT THE ROUTES ARE AND THE ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL. SO AT THIS POINT, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MAINTENANCE FREE FACILITY. I REALLY I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT TERM, RIGHT? I DEAL WITH WORDS ALL THE TIME AND MAINTENANCE FREE TO ME IS A LOFTY GOAL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY AN ACHIEVABLE ONE. I THINK WE WANT ONE THAT IS AS RESILIENT AS POSSIBLE AND WHERE THE MAINTENANCE IS AS MANAGEABLE AS POSSIBLE. SO HAVING STAFF THERE TO DIRECT NOT INITIALLY BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T SEE THAT THERE WILL BE A DEMAND FOR THAT. AGAIN, EVEN THE VENDING MACHINES FOR THE FARE, IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING IF, IF WE CAN FINDD& THAT WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND THAT MOST OF THE RIDERS ARE GOING TO HAVE SMARTPHONES AND HAVE ACCESS TOO& THAT ELECTRONIC INFORMATION, THEN THAT CERTAINLY ELIMINATESS& THE NEED FOR SOMEONE TO BE THERE. WE CAN ALSO INCORPORATE SOME DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT INCLUDE WAYFINDING AND SIGNAGE THAT CAN HELP THE USERS LOCATE WHERE IT IS THAT THEY THAT THEY& NEED TO GO. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S THE GOAL. THANK YOU, DOCTOR CASSELLA. YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT. OF COURSE, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS THAT STILL NEED TO GET WORKED OUT AND BUDGETING IS A FACTOR. HOWEVER, ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HEAT THAT WE HAVE HERE IN EL PASO IS THE STATION GOING TO BE ENCLOSED. I& THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TOO& STAY IN THE TABLE NO MATTER WHAT? YES, SIR. WE ARE LOOKING AT AT AN ENCLOSED FACILITY AND SHADE OUTSIDE. THAT'S WHAT BOTH& OF THESE STATIONS HAVE. THEY HAVE CANOPIES OUTSIDE. THE ONE AT THE AIRPORT HAD SOME AGAIN, NOT NOT ENTIRELY MAINTENANCE FREE, RIGHT. BUT SOME VERY MAINTENANCE AWARE FEATURES. THEY HAD LIKE A PICNIC TABLE AND A BENCH THAT ARE CONCRETE, SO RELATIVELY EASY TO MAINTAIN AND JUST POWER WASH. RIGHT. SO BOTH EXTERNAL AREAS THAT PROVIDE SHADE, NATURAL SHADE WITH WITH VEGETATION AND CANOPIES AND THE& AN INDOOR AREA. OKAY. AIR CONDITION I'M ASSUMING. YES. OKAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH. YES. AND THEN LASTLY DOCTOR DO YOU HAVE OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S ETA'S PROCESS IN DETERMINING PROJECTED RIDERSHIP? THAT'S A WHOLE FIELD UNTO ITSELF. AND I THINK THAT IN IN THE CITY'S CASE, THAT IS COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE TWO NEW ROUTES THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING ARE JUST THAT THEY'RE NEW. SO WE EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE RIDERSHIP AND THAT AS THE WORD GOES OUT RIGHT, THATT& THERE'S AN EXPRESS ROUTE TOO& UTEP, THAT THAT WILL BECOME ATTRACTIVE. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO GET AN EXPLANATION OF HOW RIDERSHIP IS ESTIMATED. BUT AS I SAID, THAT'S THAT'S A WHOLE SUBDISCIPLINE UNTO ITSELF. I CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU KIND OF A CHATGPT VERSION AT THE NEXT CIP REPORT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL. YEAH. THANK YOU, DOCTOR QUESADA. I DO HAVE A COMMENT THOUGH. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO& THE DARRINGTON HORIZON CONSTRUCTION. GO BACK. IS THAT THE FIRST PAGE? NO. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK. GO. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. SO HERE. THERE. AS OF YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE CHIEF WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. YESTERDAY THEY PUT OUT THE BARRICADES ON TOWN CENTER BEHIND WALMART. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES, IT WAS THIS WEEK. IT WAS THIS WEEK. YEAH. AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT CLOSING IT. YEAH. SO BY THE THIRD WEEK. BY THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST. YES THAT'S TRUE. SO THERE IS AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTION HERE ON DARRINGTON& AND HORIZON BOULEVARD HAS BEEN VERY HARD ON THE CITY, VERY, VERY HARD. AND WE UNDERSTANDD& THAT WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH TEXDOT TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS, TO VOICE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OPTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, TEXDOT THEY THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. WEE& MEET WITH TEXDOT AND WE MEET WITH WITH THE CONTRACTOR WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR RIGHT BEHIND WALMART. THEY DID CLOSE A SECTION OF TOWN CENTER. THAT'SS& BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN 
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FROM DARRINGTON OVER TO AN EVAP POND. SO PLEASE BE AWARE OF THAT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDED WAIT TIMES AND ADDED DELAYS FOR THIS FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S THEY PROJECT THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS FOR THAT. WE'RE HOPING THEY FINISH QUICKLY LIKE THEY DID ON SOME OF THE OTHER WORK. WHEN THEY CLOSE& OFF DARRINGTON, THEY GAVE US A TWO WEEK TIME FRAME FOR THE DARRINGTON CROSS THE SEWER LINE, AND THEY FINISHED THAT IN ONE WEEK. SO WE'RE HOPING THATT& THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT OVER HERE. WE'LL CROSS OUR FINGERS FOR THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TOO& EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF THAT. NEW CONSTRUCTION ON TOWN CENTER BEHIND WALMART. AND AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION AND WE'LL PASS ALONG THOSE CONCERNS TO TEXDOT AND TO THEIR CONTRACTOR. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON& THIS ITEM, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION BEING THAT THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENT IS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF OCTOBER AT TOWN CENTER PARK. 
          YES. HOW WILL THAT BE AFFECTED BY THIS CONSTRUCTION, OR IS THAT ALREADY BEING TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION? THEY'LL BE FINISHED WITH THAT PORTION BYY& THEN, YES. SO THERE THEY HAVE A BACKLOG. I'M SORRY. THE PIPEE& THAT THEY'RE USING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION IS ON BACKORDER. SO FOR A WEEK AND A HALF IS WHATT& THEY TOLD US WEEK AND A HALF TO& TWO WEEKS. AND THEN THREE WEEKS AFTER THAT, THEN THEY'LL BE DONE FOR JUST IN TIME FOR OUR RIGHT BEFORE THAT MEETING. SO FINGERS CROSSED. YES. FINGERS CROSSED. AS LONG AS NO DELAYS HAPPEN. BUT THEY SHOULD BE DONE BY THEN. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. 
          OKAY. IS THIS AN ACTION ITEM? IT IS AN ACTION ITEM. MOTION TOO& APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRESENTATION. SECOND AND WE HAV& A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. ORTEGA I. 
          AVILA. AMES. GARDEA A MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ON T& ITEM NUMBER NINE. DISCUSSION AN& ACTION. THIS IS THAT. WAIT. BEFORE YOU START, IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO LEAVE, WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA HERE. AND YOUR ITEM HAS ALREADY COME AND GONE. YOU WERE& FREE TO LEAVE AT ANY TIME. DO NOT THINK THAT YOU'RE STUCK TOO& YOUR CHAIR. AND WE WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU A LITTLE BIT FOR LEAVING EARLY. BUT. BUT DON'T. DON'T WORRY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HURT OUR FEELINGS. IF YOU HAVE TOO& LEAVE. WE. WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO STAY. BUT IF YOU HAVE TOO& LEAVE, DON'T. DON'T WORRY. OKAY. 
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SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS IS THAT THE MAYOR BE AUTHORIZED TO SIGN A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE NORTH DARRINGTON ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT WITH HEWITT ZOLLARS TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT TO MAYY& 2027 AND TO INCREASE THE COMPENSATION PAID TO HEWITT DOLLARS TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $44,601.90. COUNCIL TERRY CAZARES, CITY MANAGER. AS THE MAYOR, INDICATED, WE MEET WEEKLY WITH TXDOT AND THE CITY. CONSULT WITH HEWITT ZOLLARS, THE TOWN ENGINEER, ON THE ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE THE CITY FOR COMMENT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. CERTAINLY, THE TOWN ENGINEER IS YOUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ONN& ANY ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL ISSUE. SO THIS AMOUNT, THIS CONTRACT EXTENSION TAKES USS& THROUGH THE PROPOSED END OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS MAY OF 2027. THE ITEMS, THE AMOUNT BILLED TO& THE CITY IS ON AN HOURLY BASIS. 
          SO IF THERE ARE FEWER MEETINGS. CERTAINLY THE CITY WILL ONLY BE BILLED FOR ACTUAL TIME, NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. IT'S NOT A LUMP SUM SUM CONTRACT, BUT AGAIN, AS THE TOWN ENGINEER, WE ASK THEM TOO& WEIGH IN ON ON ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT TEXDOT PROVIDES AND TO SERVE AS A QUALITY ASSURANCE FOR THE TOWN. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. DOCTOR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROMM& COUNCIL? MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND AND A SECOND? THANK YOU. CAN YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. HI, AVILA. HI, AMES. 
          GARDEA. MENDOZA. I MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, ON TO ITEM NUMBE& TEN. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS 
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IS ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TOO& SIGN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN FORM AND SUBSTANCE APPROVED BYY& THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CAMINO REAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY. 
          C R RMA FOR THE RMA TO PROVIDE GEOTECHNICAL STUDIES AND SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTH DARRINGTON RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $30,000. COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, TERRY QUEZADA ONCE AGAIN, NOT YET. EXCUSE ME, I HAVE TO TELL A BIT OF A OF AA& 
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STORY FOR THIS ONE. TEXDOT ISS& THE DESIGN CONTRACTED FOR THE DESIGN OF NORTH DARRINGTON AND HORIZON, AND AS PART OF THATT& DESIGN WAS THE DESIGN FOR THE POND, THE CITY. AND THAT'S. 
          THAT'S NOT. THE CITY REQUESTED THAT THE POND BE MOVED AWAY FRO& THE FRONTAGE ON DARRINGTON, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT DARRINGTON IS AN ECONOMIC CORRIDOR. AND WE THOUGHT THAT HAVING A POND THAT FRONTS RIGHT ON DARRINGTON IS NOT THE BEST LAND USE. TEXDOT AGREED. AND THEY WENT AND DESIGNED THE PROJECT. AS THE CONTRACTOR BEGAN EXCAVATING THE POND AND MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE POND SLOPES, THEY FOUND POCKETS OF SUGAR SAND. SO THEY STOPPED THE EXCAVATION. AND TEXDOT HAS ASKED THE TOWN HOW THE TOWN WISHES TO& PROCEED WITH THAT. THAT SLOPE TREATMENT. AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH STUDIES TOO& DETERMINE THE EXTENT OR FULL LOCATION OF ALL OF THE SUGAR SAND. SO RATHER THAN JUST THROWING THE MOST CONSERVATIVE DESIGN TREATMENT AT THE PROJECT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS INFORMED DESIGN REVISIONS WITH GEOTECHNICAL STUDIES. WHEN& THE CITY PROPOSED THIS TO TXDOT, TXDOT SAID, WELL, IT COULD TAKE US ANYWHERE FROM A MONTH TOO& EIGHT WEEKS TO PROCURE THE GEOTECHNICAL STUDIES. WELL, AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT. WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY THE CONTRACTOR ANY FURTHER AT THIS POINT, THE CONTRACTOR OF THEIR OWN DECISION STOPPED WORKING ON THE POND, BUT WE STARTED EXPLORING OPTIONS TO& PROCURE THOSE GEOTECHNICAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT TEX DOT'S EFFORTS. WE WENT TO THE CAMINO REAL REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY, AND AGAIN, I'VE EXPRESSED THIS TO COUNCIL ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. THEIR PROCESSES ARE FEDERALLY APPROVED. SO WE KNOW THAT THE WAY THAT THEY'VE PROCURED BOTH PROFESSIONAL AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES MEETS FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN ENTER INTO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH THEM. THE ILA WAS A FANTASTIC PARTNER, AND THEY SAID THEIR THEIR GENERAL ENGINEERING CONTRACTOR, TO FIND A GEOTECH THAT COULD DO THE WORK FAIRLY QUICKLY AND THAT WE COULD ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FAIRLY QUICKLY. SO THAT'S THE ITEM BEFORE THE COUNCIL ENTERING INT& AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CAMINO REAL REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY, SO THAT THEIR CONSULTANTS CAN CONDUCT THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK, THEN THE PLAN IS TO PROVIDE THAT STUDY TOO& TXDOT. TXDOT CAN PROVIDE IT TOO& THEIR ENGINEER, AND THEN THEY CAN PROVIDE US A REVISED DESIGN FOR THE SLOPE TREATMENT THAT WILL MANAGE THE SLOPE. WE HAVEE& SOME LIMITATIONS NOW BECAUSE THE CITY HAS PROCURED ALL OF THE LAND, SO WE CAN'T MAKE THE POND ANY, ANY BIGGER, RIGHT? IT'S A FAIRLY DEEP POND, SO THE SLOPES ARE STEEP, BUT IT IS THE CITY'S INTENT TO GO BACK TO TEXDOT AND ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THESE FUNDS. SO WHILE THE CITY IS FRONTING THIS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCUREMENT OF THE GEOTECHNICAL STUDY AND FACILITATE THE DESIGN& OF THE SLOPE, IT IS OUR INTENT TO RECEIVE THESE FUNDS FROM FROM TEXDOT. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THROUGH THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT. BUT WE WANT TO AGAIN, WE WANT TO GET TO THE FIX. RIGHT. AND THEN WE WILL DEAL WITH WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES. WE'VE TOLD TXDOT THAT THAT IS THE CITY'S INTENT, THAT IT IS OUR POSITION THAT THIS IS WORK THAT& SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DURING THE INITIAL DESIGN. AND AT THIS POINT, WE ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND A RESPONSIBLE OWNER AND HELP THE PROCESS ALONG, BUT THAT IT IS MEANT TO EXPEDITE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED FOR THE DESIGN AND NOT MEANT TO BE THE CITY'S COST. SO AGAIN, AT THIS POINT, WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT. I DON'T HAVE A FIRM REIMBURSEMENT LETTER FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS GOING TO BE REIMBURSED. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS THAT'S THE MAYOR'S DIRECTION. AND CERTAINLY THAT'S& WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO PROCEED TO DO. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE IMAGES OF THE EROSION AT THE POND WITH THE RECENT RAINS. AND IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THESE ARE THE IMAGES, SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TOOK JUST YESTERDAY. THEY'RE THE MORE DRAMATIC ONES. SO I DON'T WANTT& YOU TO THINK THAT THAT EVERYTHING IS LIKE THIS. BUT 
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THIS IS CERTAINLY THE MORE DRAMATIC EROSION THAT THAT'S BEEN EXPERIENCED AT THE POND. 
          AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE GOING BACK TO NOT QUITE MAINTENANCE FREE, BUT WE WANT T& MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN MANAGES THE MAINTENANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE FUTURE, RIGHT, THAT YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK EVERY TIME IT RAINS OR EVERY SEASON TO START DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE UNDERMINING AT THAT& OUTFALL. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE IS NO EROSION. RIGHT. SO AGAIN WEE& WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IT, THAT WE HAVE THAT WE TARGET THOSE AREAS AND WE GIVE IT THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT AND THATT& IT'S NOT JUST THE MOST ROBUST ENGINEERING FIX, BUT IT'S THE APPROPRIATE FIX THAT MANAGES A SITUATION AND MANAGES THE COSTS. THANK YOU. DOCTOR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES,,& SIR. DOCTOR QUEZADA SO OBVIOUSLY TO ME IT'S QUITE EVIDENT WHAT SUGAR SAND IS. WE'RE SEEING IT EROSION AS FAR AS IF IT REALLY GOT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO SCRAP THIS PARTICULAR PONDING AREA. HAS TEXDOT MENTIONED A PLAN B OFF& WHAT OTHER LOCATION AND IF THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST? QUICK ANSWER THERE IS NO OTHER LOCATION. MY FIRST I HAD A MUCH MORE DRAMATIC RESPONSE WITH MY TONGUE, SIR. THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INVESTED IN THIS LOCATION. YES, SIR. AT THIS POINT, ALL OF THE DESIGN FLOWS ARE TO THAT LOCATION. YOU'RE SEEING THE PIPE BEING INSTALLED. SO GOING TOO& ANOTHER LOCATION, I SUPPOSE NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, RIGHT. AND MY ENGINEERING FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES TELL ME. OH, WE CANN& DO ANYTHING, TERRY. IT JUSTT& TAKES MONEY. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST RESPONSIBLE USE OF FUNDS AT THIS POINT. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S AN ENGINEERING SOLUTION FOR THIS. RIGHT. BUT WE JUST WANT T& MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RIGHT SIZED TO THIS PROJECT AND TO THIS POND. THERE'S A FIX FOR THIS. IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T WANT TO& NECESSARILY STABILIZE EVERYTHIN& IF WE DON'T HAVE TO STABILIZE EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT WE CAN STABILIZE AREAS DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT SUGAR SAND IS AND HOW DEEP IT IS. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS. HOW DEEP DOES IT GO. BECAUSE IF THEY DO A TREATMENT FOR 2 OR 3FT AND THE SUGAR SAND GOES 5 OR 7FT, THEN THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, RIGHT? THE WHATEVER TREATMENT WILL JUST SLIDE RIGHT OFF. SO AND AGAIN FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. SO THIS IS THI& IS JUST THE SITUATION THAT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME. SO CHANGING THE LOCATION WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT I SEE. YES SIR. AND THE REASON I I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE NEWS, LIKE, LET'S SAY IN RUIDOSO WITH A LOT OF WATER COMING IN. OF COURSE, THEY HAVE THE, THE, THE MOUNTAINS, THE FOREST AREA THAT ACTUALLY AND THEY OF COURSE, THEY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SNOW THAN WHAT WE WOULD. 
          LUCKILY, WE'RE ALSO FAR AWAY FROM OUR FRANKLIN MOUNTAINS TOO& WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE RUNOFF. 
          RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A TEN, 20 YEAR PONDING, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT HOLDS. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF SOLUTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR THE POND, FOR THE SLOPES, SOMETHING THAT WILL WITHSTAND THE ANTICIPATED RAINS, SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW THE APPROPRIATE PERCOLATION SO THAT IT'S GOING TO THE RIGHT TO ABSORB BACK INTO OUR AQUIFER. SO THOSE ARE SOMEE& OF THE STUDIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONDUCTED AS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THE GEOTECH HAS PROPOSED. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS WITH ALSO WITH SOME GUIDANCE, AGAIN FROM HEWITT SALAS AS A TOWN ENGINEER, THEYY& SENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO TXDOT AND TO THE MAZING. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THIS IS WHAT& SHOULD BE INFORMING THE REVISED DESIGN. THANK YOU DOCTOR. OF COURSE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. DOCTOR QUEZADA, YOU KIND OF SHUT ME DOWN FROM ASKING MY FIRST QUESTION WHEN YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT AN ENGINEER. I WAS GOING TO& ASK YOU, WHAT IS CONFECTIONERY? I MEAN, SUGAR SENT IT TO ME LIKE CONFECTIONERY. INGREDIENT. SUGAR IS VERY SOFT SAND. I THINK THE MAYOR MIGHT HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH IT. IT'S VERY SOFT SAND. 
          AND SO IT JUST CRUMBLES. OKAY, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEAR THAT TERM. I'VE HEARD OF CALICHE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IS VERY HARD. BUT THE SUGAR SAND, IT CRUMBLES. AND AGAIN, THE MAYOR MIGHT HAVE A BETTERR& WAY OF DESCRIBING IT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT. THAT TERM, THAT TERM TERRAIN. YEAH. SO, SO IN SPECIFIC AREAS AROUND THIS REGION THERE IS THIS SUGAR SAND. AND IT'S WHAT HAPPENS. IS IT WE 
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RAN INTO IT A LOT WHEN WE WERE DIRECTIONAL BORING. SO WHEN YOUR DIRECTIONAL BORING, THE HARDERR& THE GROUND IS THE ACTUAL IT'S EASIER FOR THE DRILL TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT HAS GRIP, RIGHT. IT CAN IT CAN FOLLOW DIRECTION WITH SUGAR SAND. IT'S& JUST VERY, VERY LOOSE, VERY IMAGINE BEACH SAND ALMOST. RIGHT. SO YEAH, IT JUST CRUMBLES IN YOUR HAND SIMILAR TO BEACH SAND BUT WITH NO WATER. OKAY. SO AND IT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO, T& COMPACT ITSELF. IT, IT ALMOST WON'T COMPACT. THE HARDER YOU PUSH ON IT THE WORSE IT GETS. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE NOW. IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE AREA. IT'S JUST CERTAIN PATCHES, CERTAIN PARTS. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE GEOTECH TO KIND OF FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE THESE WHERE THESE SPOTS ARE. NOW, THE REASON I ASKED FOR, FOR REIMBURSEMENT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS GEOTECH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TOO& CONSTRUCTION AND IT WASN'T DONE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR CERTAIN FOR THIS TO BE REIMBURSED TO THE CITY. NOW, WE& CAN'T GO DIRECTLY TO THAT CONTRACTOR, BUT WE CAN GO TOO& TXDOT, AND THEN TXDOT THEMSELVES CAN GET REIMBURSED BY THAT CONTRACTOR. SO THIS WAS. I CAN'T SAY WITHOUT THIS GEOTECH BEING DONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OFF& TIMES IF YOU DO THESE STUDIES PRIOR TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, YOU CAN DESIGN TO THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF THEM BEFORE THEY STARTED THIS DESIGN. 
          SO THAT THAT'S THE SECOND QUESTION, BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE, IS IT LIKELY THAT WE WILL GET REIMBURSED? DOES THAT HAPPEN OFTEN WHERE WE MUNICIPALITIES ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE OF MISTAKE THE CONTRACTOR DID? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS OFTEN. IT HAPPENS, BUT IT DOES. YEAH. AND I THINK I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY, WITH HORIZON CITY, WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY FIRM WITH CONTRACTORS. WE ASSESSED LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ON ON THE PROJECT, AND WE HAD THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THAT PROJECT SAY EVE& EL PASO DOESN'T ASSESS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. AND I SAID, YEAH, WELL, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT. 
          SO, SO I, I THINK IT DEPENDS. AND I THINK IT IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF DEMONSTRATING THE CITY'S POSITION. AND AGAIN, OUR AGREEMENT IS WITH TXDOT. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO TOO& TXDOT. BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO& JUSTIFY THE CITY'S POSITION, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DOCTOR, I'M WONDERING, WILL THE GEOTECH ONLY BE CONDUCTING A STUDY WITHIN THE PONDING AREA AND, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING IT O& THE ENTIRE TOD AREA TO FIND THESE PATCHES? NO, JUST WITHIN THE JUST WITHIN THE POND AREA, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE ON A TIMELY BASIS AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO TEXDOT AND THEY CAN PROVIDE IT TO THEIR ENGINEER AS OTHER PROJECTS ARE DEVELOPED. THIS IS A LESSON LEARNED. SO AS OTHER PROJECTSS& ARE DEVELOPED IN THE TOD AREA, CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO KEEP IN MIND. IN FACT, WE MENTIONED THAT TO OUR CONSULTANT FOR DILLY LAKE AND THE TRANSIT PLAZA. WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND SUGAR SAND JUST NORTH OF THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THESE PROJECTS. SO MAKE& SURE THAT YOU ACCOUNT FOR SUFFICIENT GEOTECH. OKAY. WHICH IS AT THIS POINT WHAT WE CAN DO. THIS IS THE AREA THAT TXDOT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. THE REST OF IT IS AS DEVELOPERS COME IN AND DECIDE TO BEGIN THEIR CONSTRUCTION, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GEOTECH ON THEIR LANE. OKAY, THAT'S HOW IT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. ONE LAST QUESTION. THAT'S IT. NO, THAT'S& OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. I'M SORRY I'M HERE ALL NIGHT AS FAR AS IF UPO& THAT GEOTECH SURVEY WOULD CONCRETE BE A SOLUTION MAYBE. WOULD THEY, WOULD THEY RECOMMEND IF IN CASE IT DOES COME TOO& ADDING CONCRETE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE CONCRETE. AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I THINK THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO STABILIZE THE SOIL. 
          AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, RIGHT. BECAUSE THE SOIL CRUMBLE& AND IS NOT STABLE. THEY THEYY& WILL RECOMMEND DIFFERENT TREATMENTS TO STABILIZE IT. I'M SURE CONCRETE WOULD BE ONE OFF& THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE ONLY STABILIZING AGENT THAT CAN BE USED. GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN REAL QUICK. CAN YOU GO TO ONE OF THOSE PICTURES? ACTUALLY THE PICTURE THERE. THAT CULVERT WITH THE DRAIN. CAN YOU START THE SLIDESHOW. PICTURE THREE. SLIDE FOUR. SLIDE FOUR. 
          YES. JUST CLICK ON SLIDE FOUR. IT'S ON THE LEFT. OH I'M SORRY. THANKS. RIGHT THERE. SO JUST AS 
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IT'S CONCRETE DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SUGAR SAND WILL UNDERNEATH IT. RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. 
          SO THAT MAY BE AN OPTION. THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS. RIPRAP IS ANOTHER ONE. I MEAN THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF OPTIONS HERE. BUT AGAIN IT'S COST. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS HEADED WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS TO IT. ABSOLUTELY. YES. ABSOLUTELY. YES. AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL HAVE TO EXCAVATE AND REMOVE THOSE POCKETS OF SUGAR SAND SO THATT& THEY CAN GET TO SOIL THAT CAN RECEIVE THE STABILIZING TREATMENT. AND AGAIN WE'RE TRYING WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE COUNCIL IS MANAGE WHAT THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE TO THE PONDS. SO OUR THE TOWN ENGINEER JUST MENTIONED TO ME TODAY AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, TERRY GEOTECH STUDIES ARE WORTHWHILE INVESTMENTS BECAUSE THAT CAN SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE TEXDOT AND THE CONTRACTOR HAVE TALKED ABOUT A CHANGE ORDER TO STABILIZE THE SLOPES, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE MOST ROBUST, THE ONE WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE, SO LET'S PLAN FOR THE WORST. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT AN APPROPRIATE SOLUTION, BUT WE ALSO WANT ONE THAT MANAGES COST. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S A SWEET SPOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ARRIVE TO. AND THAT'S WHY THE STUDIES BECOME SUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE DESIGN CONSULTANT MEETS. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL. NO. IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MOVE TOO& APPROVE? ITEM TEN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. 
          ORTEGA. AVILA. HI. HI. HI, MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I'M HOPING THAT MY ENGINEERING COLLEAGUES ARE AT LEAST SATISFIED WITH MY EXPLANATIONS TO YOU. THANK YOU. 
          [11. Discussion and Action]
DOCTOR. OKAY, ON TO ITEM 11. THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM. THIS IS TO RATIFY THE TOW& OF HORIZON CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ACCEPTANCE OF AN AWARD FROM THE TEXAS FACILITIES COMMISSION TO PURCHASE TWO VEHICLES FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS, STATE AND FEDERAL SURPLUS PROPERTY OFFICE FOR THE AMOUNT OF $1,000 EACH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TOO& THE TEXAS FACILITIES COMMISSION THROUGH HB 2229. 84TH LEGISLATURE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 2175.308. I SWEAR I'LL TRY TO SHORTEN THAT FOR NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MARCO VARGAS, CHIEF OF POLICE. SO THIS ITEM I& A IS A RATIFICATION FOR THE PURCHASE OF VEHICLES THROUGH THE TEXAS FACILITIES COMMISSION. SO THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE BECAME AWARE OF FROM OUR COLLEAGUES, FROM OTHER AGENCIES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASING USED DPS VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN BECAUSE OF, OF NEW VEHICLES COMING OUT TO THE FLEET. SO JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION. THIS ISS& THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT THAT AUTHORIZES THAT, THAT PURCHASE. OUR ONLY OBLIGATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THOSE VEHICLES TO, TO COMBAT TRANSNATIONAL CRIME. AND OBVIOUSLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. AND THAT WAS DONE THROUGH AN APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. AND IF WE IF WE DO, AGAIN, THIS IS THERE'S NO GUARANTEES THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS OR NOT. AND IT IS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS. BUT IF WE DO RECEIVE IT, WE AGREE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY UNTIL THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF& THE TIME THAT THE PROPERTY WAS RECEIVED. SO THIS THESE WERE THE REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN, SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION PROCESS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, THE AGENCY'S EFFORT TO COMBAT TRANSNATIONAL CRIME. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND WE ACHIEVED THAT THROUGH OUR PARTICIPATION IN OPERATION BORDER STAR, LONE STAR. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DIRECTIVES THAT WE HAVE WITHH& THOSE OPERATIONS. AGAIN, YOU GOT TO DESCRIBE HOW THE AGENCY'SS& GOING TO UTILIZE THOSE REQUESTS TO ENFORCE THOSE EFFORTS. AND IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED IN A COUNTY OR CITY WHERE IT'S CONSIDERED ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. OF COURSE, IF YOU GUYS AREN'T AWARE, I'M SUREE& YOU'RE AWARE THAT EL PASO COUNTY IS CONSIDERED ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. AGAIN, NO GUARANTEE FOR THE AWARD. OF COURSE, THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          WE HAVE TO PICK UP THAT VEHICLE FROM AUSTIN WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THAT AWARD. IF WE DO RECEIVE THE AWARD AND IT IS ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS, A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. AGAIN, THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE TEXAS FACILITIES COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION. IN THIS CASE, THEY THEY AWARDED US TWO VEHICLES. WE REQUESTED TWO SUVS FROM THEM TO USED PREVIOUSLY USED DPS SUVS. WE WERE REQUIRED TO PAY BY CASHIER'S CHECK, MAKE TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS, AND THEN THE OFFICERS TRAVELED OVER TOO& AUSTIN TO PRETTY MUCH TO INSPEC& 
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THE VEHICLES AND THEN PICK OUT WHICH ONES WERE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR US, THE COSTS. JUST A QUICK BREAKDOWN. WE HAD $700 IN TRAVEL, $160 PER DIEM, $200. I'M SORRY, $2,000 ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR THE TRANSFER OF THOSE VEHICLES, WHICH IS THE $1,000 EACH. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE TO PAINT THE VEHICLES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T MATCH DPS COLORS. THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'& PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE AND THEN MAKE THEM OPERATIONAL READY. AND THAT THOSE THOSE ARE FOR THE TWO VEHICLES IN TOTAL NOT NOT PER VEHICLE. VEHICLE INFORMATION USE WE RECEIVED. WE GOT A 2017 BLACK CHEVY TAHOE. IT'S GOT 160,000 MILES. AND THAT VEHICLE IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY ASSIGNED TO OUR OFFICERS TO DEPLOY THE AGENCY DRONE. THE SECOND VEHICLE IS A 2017 FORD EXPLORER, AGAIN, 160,000 MILES. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE USED BY CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS. SO THERE'S REALL& NO UPGRADES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE OUTSIDE OF ANY ADDING A RADIO OR PUTTING EMERGENCY LIGHTING INN& IT. THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE GOING TO BE AUXILIARY VEHICLES. AGAIN, THE TITLE HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO US, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LILY'S OFFICE ON, ON TAKING CARE OF THAT VEHICLE AGAIN MUST& BE PAINTED. IT CAN'T HAVE ANY INSIGNIA THAT THAT INDICATES IT WAS. IT'S A DPS VEHICLE, A REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE TO KEEPP& THOSE VEHICLES FOR TWO YEARS. WE CAN SELL THEM AFTER TWO YEARS. AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE OPERABILITY OF THOSE VEHICLES. AND IF IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY, THEN THEN WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY AUCTION THEM IF KEPT FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS. AGAIN,& WE JUST HAVE TO GET APPROVAL. 
          AND IT'S JUST IT'S A MATTER OF JUSTIFICATION WITH THE TEXAS FACILITIES COMMISSION, JUST TOO& LET THEM KNOW THAT THE VEHICLES ARE NO LONGER OPERABLE, AND THEY'LL JUSTIFY US GETTING RIDD& OF SELLING THOSE VEHICLES. AND AT THIS MOMENT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. YES, SIR. CHIEF, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF COST? AND IF WE DO REPAINT, ARE WE PUTTING OUR INSIGNIA OR IS IT AN UNMARKED VEHICLE? NO, SIR. SO IT'S. IT'S GOING TO REMAIN UNMARKED. IT'S JUST FOR AUXILIARY. AUXILIARY USE. WHICH MEANS THAT THE OFFICER FOR THE TAHOE, HE'S GOING TO HE'S GOING TO STORE THE DRONE THERE. AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO GET DEPLOYED, HE DEPLOYS IT FROM, FROM THAT VEHICLE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A CRIME SCENE VEHICLE, A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS VEHICLE. WE WOULD BE ABLE TOO& IDENTIFY THAT IT'S A CITY VEHICLE VERSUS JUST U.S CITIZEN VEHICLE. YES, SIR. AND THE PAINT JOB AGAIN, THE COST IS $5,400. 
          THAT'S FOR THE PAINT JOB. AND THEN ENSURING THAT IT'S OPERATIONAL READY LIKE CHECKING& THE BRAKES, CHANGING THE OIL. YOU KNOW THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SUSPENSION WORK. YEAH. YES. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. WHAT IS THE INTERCEPTOR MEAN? THAT'S JUST AN EXPLORER. POLICE. WORD FOR EXPLORERS. IT'& A REALLY FAST. REALLY FAST, REALLY FAST. BETTER SUSPENSION OR I DON'T KNOW. YES, SIR. YEAH. BETTER. THAT'S. THAT'S PRETTYY& MUCH WHAT IT IS. IT'S JUST A BETTER SUSPENSION. OKAY. AND THEN, CHIEF, I'M WONDERING, WERE YOU ABLE TO PICK THESE VEHICLES? YOU SAID YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO PICK THEM, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, WE HAD TO KIND OF RUSH ON THESE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. SO INITIALLY WHEN WE CALLED THEY SAID WE HAVE SEVEN. AND THEN WE CALLED THEM AGAIN AND SAID, HEY IF YOU GUYS& GOING TO COME DOWN HERE, YOU BETTER COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY FIVE LEFT. SO OUT OF THOSE FIVE THAT WE THAT WERE LEFT, WE PICKED OUT THE, THEE& BEST TWO THAT WERE AVAILABLE. 
          AND WELL, I MEAN, THAT ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION. WHY THEY'RE BOTH DIFFERENT MAKES. YES SIR. 
          YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES HAD A LOT OF HAD A LOT OF BODY DAMAGE ON THEM. AND IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITYY& TO, TO TAKE THOSE. THANK YOU CHIEF OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS TRANSACTION BEFORE. WE HAVE NOT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE DO IT. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO THE PURCHASING OF THESE VEHICLES ARE WE ASSURED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS? THAT'S A LOT OF MILEAGE. IT IS, SIR. AND INITIALLY THAT WAS MY FRAME OF MIND. THEY MADE IT FROM AUSTIN. 
          SO GETTING THEM HERE AND I WILL SAY I MADE THAT CALL. OKAY. THE CHIEF CAME TO ME AND SAID YES. 
          AND I SAID, GO IF YOU CAN GET IT TO EL PASO, IT'S A WIN. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, AND THEY MADE IT TO A PROBLEM TO EL PASO WITH NO PROBLEM. SO, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM CHANGING A BATTERY, I BELIEVE. YES, SIR. ASIDE FROM CHANGING A BATTERY. YES, SIR. YES. THESE ARE GOING TO BE LOW MILEAGE USE. YES, SIR. YEAH. 160,000 MILES EACH. THAT'S WHAT& THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. YES, SIR..& WHEN THEY ARRIVE HERE. YES, SIR. YEAH. GOING TO BE USED ONLY FOR PATROLLING. NO SIR. NO SIR. NO, NO. THANK YOU. YOU AND PLEASE. YOU KNOW, THE HORIZON CITY I 
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BELIEVE IS ONLY SIX SQUAREE& MILES, SO IT'LL STAY LOCAL. SO MILEAGE SHOULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM, YOU KNOW. YES, SIR. SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO& APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND AND A SECOND. CAN YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. AMES. GARDEA A MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM 
          [12. Discussion and Action]
NUMBER 12. THIS IS A DISCUSSION& AND ACTION ITEM. THIS IS THAT THE CHIEF IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY AND EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, TO PROVIDE FOR RADIO INTEROPERABILITY BETWEEN THE HKPD AND THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT..& INTEROPERABILITY, INTEROPERABILITY INOPERABILITY IS A TOTAL DIFFERENT THING. 
          MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MARCO VARGAS, ONCE AGAIN WITH ME IS EL RAMOS, OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER AND OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, FERNAND& HEREDIA. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A QUICK HISTORY REGARDING US. AND THIS IS THIS, BY THE WAY, IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM FOR US. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, AND INTEROPERABILITY WITH RADIO SYSTEMS IS A VERY IMPORTANT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE WORK IN A IN A VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY WITH, WITH WITH THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WITH WITH THE SOCORRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH OUR RADIO SYSTEM. OKAY. SO BUTT& I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK HISTORY AGAIN. WE'RE LOCATED THREE MILES NORTHEAST OF SOCORRO CITY LIMITS, SURROUNDED BY COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT JURISDICTION. AROUND US IS EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO WE DO HAVE OUR OWN RADIO SYSTEM SEPARATE SEPARATE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BUT WE'RE ALL ON THE P25 SYSTEM, WHICH HAS THE ABILITY TO INTER INTER INTEROPERATE AND JUST WITH A CLICK OF A CHANNEL TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. SPECIFICALLY, UNITS THAT ARE ASSIGNED SHERIFF'S UNITS THATT& ARE ASSIGNED TO THE TO THE HORIZON AREA. WE USED TO HAVE RADIO INTEROPERABILITY. I MEAN, MANY YEARS AGO, WE USED TO BE ON THE SAME CHANNELS. WE A HORIZON CITY USED TO GET DISPATCHED BY EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AGAIN. AS THE YEARS PROGRESSED, WE GOT WE ESTABLISHED OUR OWN COMMUNICATION CENTER. WE STILL HAVE THE HAD THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. BUT THEN& THEY WENT ENCRYPTED. SO THEY WENT TO AN ENCRYPTED SYSTEM WHICH WE COULD NO LONGER HEAR O& TALK TO THEM ANYMORE. SO AGAIN, THE PRIOR TO THE TO THE ENCRYPTION, PRIOR TO THAT BREAK IN, IN IN ABILITIES TOO& COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. WE& HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. I THINK IT HELPED KIND OF BUILD A CAMARADERIE BETWEEN DEPUTIES AND OFFICERS OUT HERE. BUT EVER SINCE THEN, IT'S KIND OF BECOME BECOME A LITTLE MORE APPARENT ABOUT REGARDING THE DISTANT NATURE BETWEEN THE BETWEEN THE AGENCIES. SO AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TOO& COMMUNICATE, LIKE IN CASES OF AN EMERGENCY, WE HAVE TO CONTACT THE DISPATCH CENTER. DISPATCHH& CENTER DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO& PATCH WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT BY THE TIME ALL OF THAT TAKES PLACE, WE HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE TOO& GIVE US PERMISSION, AND THEN WE PATCH THERE. WE COULD LOSE SOME SOME CRITICAL TIME WITH RESPONDING OR HANDLING THAT CALL FOR SERVICE. AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCERN FOR US BECAUSE THE, THE, THE THAT PATCHING KIND OF DELAYS, DELAYS OUR ABILITY TOO& COMMUNICATE IN GENERAL, ASSISTANCE BETWEEN BOTH AGENCIES HAPPENS BETWEEN 4 TO 5 TIMES A DAY. AND EVEN SOME OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE JUST HAVE RESORTED TO CALLING THE DEPUTIES ON THEIR, ON THEIR CELL PHONEE& BECAUSE IT JUST TAKES IT JUST TAKES A WHILE. SO I'LL LET PRETTY MUCH KIND OF COVER THE PURPOSE ASPECT OF IT. HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING. SO WE WANT TOO& ENSURE THERE IS RADIO INTEROPERABILITY WITH THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO& ENSURE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE. AGAIN, WE DON'T WANTT& THAT DELAY. WE JUST WANT OUR OFFICERS TO BE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO SWITCH THEIR HANDHELD RADIOS OR THEIR MOBILE RADIOS, WHICH ARE IN THEIR UNITS, VERSUS US HAVING TO CALL THE DISPATCH CENTER. THEN THEYY& HAVE TO GET PERMISSION AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE PATCH. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A DELAY. WE ALSO WANT TO IMPROVE COOPERATION BETWEEN AGENCIES. PATCHING IS AN OPTION. BUT AGAIN THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DELAY. AND ALSO TO ASSIST BE READILY AVAILABLE TO ASSIST EACH OTHER WITHOUT DELAY FOR EMERGENCY AND 
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NON-EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. AGAIN JUST BY SWITCHING OVER TO THEIR& CHANNEL OR VICE VERSA. YOLANDA,& WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THEE& PROCESS. OKAY. HELLO. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND REPROGRAM ALL THE SUBSCRIBERS AND CONSOLES TO THE& EL PASO SHERIFF'S CHANNELS, WHICH WOULD BE CHANNEL A1, A2 AND A3. THIS WILL PROVIDE UNIQUE TRUNKING ID FOR EACH RADIO. FOR US, THE RADIO SERVICE CONTRACTO& THAT WE USE WILL UPLOAD THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SECURE KEY& ON OUR RADIOS. THE DURATION IS ABOUT 2 TO 3 DAYS FOR OUR HANDHELD MOBILE RADIOS, WITH NO DOWNTIME FOR THEM TO INSTALL IT, AND BECAUSE IT WILL BE DONE ON A ROTATING PROGRAMING BASIS. OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIG ITEM, RIGHT? THE COST. HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST US. 
          AGAIN, EACH ORGANIZATION ISS& GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAMING THEIR RADIOS. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAMING OURS AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAMING THEIRS. WE'RE LOOKING AT PROGRAMING THE FIVE CONSULATES IN DISPATCH. WE HAVE 34 HANDHELD RADIOS AND 30 MOBILE RADIOS THAT NEED TO BE PROGRAMED FOR US. WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL COST OF 2888. AND AGAIN, THAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE IN IN OUR BUDGET. AND AS I WAS INFORMED, NOT ONLY IS NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TOO& PROGRAM THE SHERIFF'S CHANNELS INTO OUR RADIOS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROGRAMING THE SOCORRO POLICE DEPARTMENT RADIO CHANNELS AS WELL. AND QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. CHIEF. STATE TROOPERS, ARE THEY HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE. SO STATE STATE TROOPERS HAVE HAVE HAVE ACCESS TO OUR RADIO SYSTEM. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIRS. SO IT'S PART OF A WHOLE MOU PROCESS THAT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. QUESTION. 
          SO. IF I DO RECALL, I BELIEVE EL PASO HAS THE CAPABILITY, JUSTT& LIKE THE STATE TROOPERS TO GET AHOLD OF YOU, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CHANNEL. GET AHOLD OF THEM IF IN CASE WE NEEDED TO, WE WOULD OFFER ASK FOR THE PATCH THROUGH DISPATCH. YES. HOW MANY CHANNELS DO WE HAVE EXISTING? HOW MANY ARE WE ADDING, AND ARE ANY OF THEM TACTICAL CHANNELS? OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO CHANNELS. WE HAVE OUR MAIN CHANNEL WHICH IS THE POLICE CHANNEL ONE AND THEN THE DISPATCH. AND THEN WE HAVE CHANNEL TWO FOR POLICE. HOWEVER THAT ONE WORKS IT'S THE TALKK& AROUND GROUP. SO BASICALLY OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO BE NEAR EACH OTHER TO BE ABLE TO HEAR EACH OTHER. RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE THOSE, THOSE TWO CHANNELS FOR, FOR THE POLICE. WHAT'S THE RADIUS FOR THAT SECOND CHANNEL? I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW. I WAS ADVISED THAT BECAUSE THERE'LL BE TIMES WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE SWITCHED TO CHANNEL TWO AND THEY CAN'T HEAR US OR VICE VERSA. RIGHT. SO IT'S REASON BEING WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO& EACH OTHER. I KNOW ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK WE CAN UP THE FREQUENCY. DO YOU REMEMBER? LIKE OUR THIS NOT DISCRETE. WHAT WAS THOSE CHANNELS? SO ANYWAYS, AS FAR AS TACTICAL CHANNELS, THE TACTICAL CHANNELS WE DO HAVE THE EP TAGS. OKAY. SO IN CASE OF A MASS CASUALTY WE WOULD HAVE OUR OFFICERS SWITCH OVER TO EP TECH FOR PERFECT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. RADIOS THA& YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. WHAT GENERATION ARE THEY? WE HAVE AS& FAR AS THE PORTABLE RADIOS. IT'& AN APP. 6000 APPS, 8000. AND FOR THE MOBILE RADIOS, IT'S AN APP. 4500. AND WE RECENTLY GOT GRANTED 12, WHICH ARE APPS 6500. AND SO ARE THESE THE MOST THE NEWEST ONES THAT WE HAVE THE APP 6500. YES, SIR. AND THEN WE DID HAVE FOR ZTL 2500, WHICH WERE VERY, VERY OLD. ALL THESE THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE THE ONES THAT& ARE GOING TO GET REPROGRAMED. YES, SIR. OKAY. THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS BECAUSE I'M ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS ARE WE REPROGRAM THESE RADIOS, THEYY& BECOME OBSOLETE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO PURCHASE A NEW SET OF RADIOS, AND THEN WE HAVE TOO& REPROGRAM THOSE AGAIN AT AN ADDITIONAL COST. IS THAT A THING? WITH THAT? I WOULDN'T KNOW. THE APP 6000 WHEN THEYY& WOULD BECOME OBSOLETE. BUT WE MAINLY HAVE THE MAJORITY APPS 8000. SO SERVICE LIFE, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKING. SERVICE LIFE ON THOSE, ON THOSE ON THE NEW UNITS. AND THEN THE 12 UNITS THAT THE 6500 THAT WE JUST GOT, THE RIO GRANDE COG, ACTUALLY, THEY GAVE US THOSE,,& CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO NO COST, NO COST OF THOSE FEDERALLY 
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FUNDED. YEAH. I'M GUESSING OUR RADIOS ARE ALSO EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY SAFE. WHICH MEANS FOR BOMB THREATS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. SO WE CAN'T WE WENT SECURE WHICH IS ENCRYPTED EARLY JUNE. I WANT TO SAY JUNEE& 2ND OF THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO NOWW& WE'RE ON SECURE MODE AS WELL. 
          PERFECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT'S THE AVERAGE TIME DELAY WHEN COORDINATING WHEN OUR DEPARTMENT HAS TO COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SO TO ASK FOR A PATCH. YEAH, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE. WELL I'M ESTIMATED MAYBE LIKE 3 MINUTES TO 5 MINUTES. IT ALL DEPENDS HOW BUSY THEY ARE. YEAH. 
          BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THEY'RE JUST LIKE US. THEY ALSO MULTITASK. SO THEIR DISPATCH AND CALL TAKING. AND WHAT IF THAT ONE DISPATCHER IS HANDLING, LET'S SAY A 911 CALL AT THAT MOMENT. AND WE'RE CALLING FOR US TO GET PATCHED. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE US ON HOLD. RIGHT. AND THAT'S MORE THAN LIKELY DELAY. WOW. SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU LIKE AN ACTUAL TIME FRAME OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION. THE RADIOS THAT ARE BEING. REPROGRAMED, THEY'RE THE MOBILE RADIOS AND THE PORTABLEE& RADIOS. YES, SIR. BOTH. YES,,& SIR. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL& JUST COMMENTS. THAT'S THAT'SS& ACTUALLY A GOOD INVESTMENT, A GREAT INVESTMENT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? I'M SORRY. MY SECOND WAS ORTEGA. ORTEGA. THANK YOU. ORTEGA. HI. 
          ORTEGA. HI, AVILA. AMES. HI, MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. CHIEF, BEFORE WE MOV& ON, I ACTUALLY WANT TO MOVE. SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AN ITEM. I THINK THERE'S SOME FOLKS HERE THAT ARE WAITING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28. AND WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA HERE IN FRONT OF US. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET HOME IN TIME FOR SUPPER. SO IT'& GOING TO BE TAKEN AFTER ITEM NUMBER 13. YES. NO. AFTER ITEMM& NUMBER 12. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AGENDA. 
          [28. PUBLIC HEARING]
ITEM NUMBER 28 PLEASE. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL SWING BACK AROUND TO& NUMBER 13 13, 29, 28 AND 29. 
          YES. CORRECT. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ON A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A ZONING CHANGE WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS OF THE TOW& OF HORIZON CITY, TEXAS, REZONING 66.86 ACRES LOTS ONE THROUGH 11, BLOCKS SEVEN AND EIGHT. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES, UNIT ONE FROM R4 SINGLE SLASH TWO FAMILY DWELLING AND R2 FAMILY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING TO PONDING AREA. 
          LOTS ONE THROUGH 23 BLOCKS EIGHT THROUGH TEN AND BLOCK NINE. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES UNIT ONE FROM R4 SINGLE SLASH TWO FAMILY DWELLING TO T THREE SUBURBAN LOTS, ONE THROUGH 27, BLOCKS FOUR, FIVE, SIX, 11 AND THROUGH 14 AND BLOCK 12. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES UNIT ONE FROM R4 SINGLE SLASH TWO FAMILY DWELLING TO T4 URBAN LOTS ONE THROUGH 30, BLOCKS ONE THROUGH THREE AND BLOCKS 17 THROUGH 22. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES UNIT ONE, TWO AND THREE FROM R4. 
          SINGLE SLASH TWO FAMILY DWELLING AND C1 COMMERCIAL TO T5 MIXED USE LOTS ONE THROUGH TEN. BLOCK 16 COMMUNITY COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES UNIT TWO FROM R4 SINGLE& SLASH TWO FAMILY DWELLING TO BE REZONED TO CIVIC, AUTHORIZING THE NOTATION OF THE CHANGE ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT REPEALER, SEVERABILITY AND PROPER NOTICE AND HEARING. IF NOBODY GOT THAT, WE CAN REPEAT THAT. NO. OKAY. GOOD EVENING,,& MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME FOR HORIZON CITY BECAUSE THIS IS THE FINAL OF THREE PHASES FOR THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA. AS FAR AS THE VISION THAT WAS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOO& ESTABLISH A TRANSIT CENTER, 
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RIGHT. AND THE THREE PHASES WERE INITIALLY THE DRAFTING AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THIS AREA. AND THEN THAT HAPPENED AROUND, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKEE& AROUND DECEMBER OF 2022. AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE WAS THE DRAFTING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT BASED ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WHICH HAVE BEEN JUNE OF 2025. AND THEN THE FINAL STEP, WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS THE ACTUAL REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES TOO& THIS NEW ZONING DESIGNATION. AND WITH US, SOME LIKE CONSULTANTS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, IS ABLE CITY. MR. CARLOS REYNARD WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE THIS MEETING, BUT WE HAVE MR. MARIO PENA THAT STARTED THE PROCESS ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS. SO HE'S BACK WITH US TODAY AND WITH HIM IS MISS VICTORIA CHAVEZ, PLANNER WITH ABLE CITY AS WELL TO KICK OFF THIS, THIS FINAL STEP, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO& MR. PENA. THANK YOU SIR. SIR. 
          THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SORRY. MIKE HERE. YES. MARIO PENA WITH THE CITY. I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, WHOEVER. I'M HAVING DINNER, I GUESS, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE ISN'T. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO PRESENT. SO. YES. SO. 
          SO ART MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, MAYBE EVEN LONGER. WEE& STARTED THE PROCESS. MR. MENDOZA THERE A FEW YEARS AGO AS WE WERE STARTING THE ADVENTURE OF CREATING HORIZON CITY'S FIRST TOD. AND I THINK AS WE ALL IMAGINE, THIS WOULD BE AN AMAZING MODEL FOR THE REGION TO& SET A STANDARD FOR HOW WE SHOULD BE DEVELOPING LIVABLE, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS CONNECTED TOO& TRANSIT. AND SO AND ALL THE BENEFITS THAT IT HAS. SO, SO TONIGHT, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE WITNESSING THAT THE FINAL STEPP& OF THAT PROCESS TO ENABLE DEVELOPMENT TO THEN LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU'LL SEE HERE. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OFF& OUR SCOPE. IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BEGAN. SORRY, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF OUTREACH. WITH THE HELP OF ALL YOUR STAFF, TO MAKE SURE THATT& THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OWNER& ALL WERE AWARE OF WHAT WAS COMING UP THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY. EARLIE& THIS YEAR, WE HAD MEETINGS WITH STAFF. THE CODE WAS DRAFTED, AND THEN WE HAD A FEW ROUNDS OF REVIEW AND OBVIOUSLY MEETINGS WITH P AND Z AND ALL THE REST OF THAT PROCESS TO CREATE AN ENABLING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD THEN BE MAPPED OR OVERLAID, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY WAS WE JUST WE CREATED THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHED THESE CODES AS YOUR BASE CODES. AND SO IT JUST& SAT THERE. RIGHT. THIS IS SORT OF THE THAT WAS THE PLACE WHERE IT JUST IT, IT CREATED THE ABILITY TO THEN NOW MAP THAT ON& THE CODE, JUST LIKE ANY CODE LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR R-1 AND YOU HAVE ALL YOUR OTHER RESIDENTIAL, ALL YOUR OTHER CODES, TYPES OF, OF ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS ISS& JUST ANOTHER WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AS, JUST AS JUST ANOTHER TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT. BUT THEN IN& ORDER FOR IT TO TAKE EFFECT, YOU WOULD NEED TO REZONE CERTAIN AREAS TO THEN BECOME THESE NEW DISTRICTS THAT WERE DRAFTED. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE COUNCIL ADOPTION IN JUNE AND THEN THE REZONING PROJECT ITSELF, YOU KNOW, CULMINATES HERE TODAY AS A AS WE GO THROUG& THE SECOND HEARING OVERVIEW OFF& THE ACTUAL MAPPING AND WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE ON, ON THE ACTUAL STREET. WE DID WE DID SOME VISUALIZATIONS OF WHAT THE CODE CAN ENABLE AS PEOPLE COME IN AND REINVEST AND DESIGN BOTH& ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND AS YOU BEGIN PUBLIC PROJECTS IN THIS SPACE. AND SO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GET PLACES THAT LOOK A LITTLE MORE LIKE THIS, WHERE BUILDINGS ARE UP AGAINST THE STREET, CREATING THIS THIRD SPACE ON THE PUBLIC REALM. SO NOW INSTEAD OF WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK AND CROSSING OCEANS OF, OF PARKING,& YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO WALK ALONG SHADED. 
          SHADED CANOPIES NEXT TO NEXT TO& BUILDINGS. ALL OF THAT SORT OF PSYCHOLOGICALLY MAKES PLACES MORE COMFORTABLE TO WALK IN, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF WALKING SORT OF IN A, AN ENDLESS VOID, IT 
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ALSO BEAUTIFIES THE CITY. IT CREATES PLACES WHERE WE KNOWW& JUST NATURALLY PEOPLE WANT TOO& LIVE IN. PEOPLE GO TO VISIT PLACES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS. AND SO NOW YOU'VE GOT A CODE THAT ENABLES YOU TO BUILD PLACES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS. SO AGAIN, JUST A GENERAL OUTLINE OF, OF THE, OFF& THE BENEFITS OF TOD. AND IT ENCOURAGES MIXES OF USES. SO YOU CAN EITHER SKIP THE CAR IT'S HOT. SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT TO SKIP THE CAR, BUT THEY DRIVE A WHOLE LOT LESS. BUT IF THEY DO WANT TO SKIP USING THE CAR, THEY COULD. WE SEE THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PLACES LIKE THIS, THEY DELAY BUYING A CAR, THAT THIRD CAR FOR THAT FIRST CAR FOR YOUR 15 YEAR OLD, YOU CAN PROBABLY DELAY THAT, RIGHT? SO IT'S A HUGE IT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO HEALTH AS WELL. YOU DON'T HAVE A 15 YEAR OLD, DO YOU? I HAVE A I HAVE A 15 YEAR OLD, I DO. AND SHE ACTUALLY LOVES TO WALK DOWN THE STREET. IF ONLY SHE HAD A USEFUL PLACE TO WALK. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO CONCENTRATES DENSITY AROUND TRANSIT TRANSIT AS WE KNEW RIDERSHIP. WE TALKED ABOUT RIDERSHIP EARLIER TODAY. IT'S KEY HOW MANY PEOPLE USE IT. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOFTOPS AROUND TRANSIT CENTERS. ALL THOSE ROOFTOPS WILL TEND TO USE TRANSIT AS LONG AS IT'S FREQUENT. AND SO ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT MAKE TRANSIT A SUCCESS ARE ALL COMBINING AROUND THIS, AROUND THIS TOD SPACE SUPPORT, REPURPOSING OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT, COMPLETING STREETS. SO THIS THIS. NEW CODE HAS GREAT DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT STREETS SHOULD BE COMPOSED OF TO BE COMPLETE SAFE STREETS TOO& ENABLE SAFER WALKING AND BIKING, BETTER TRANSIT. IT MANAGES PARKING VERY EFFECTIVELY. SO AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING BUILDINGS UP ON THE STREET. 
          THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THERE'S YOU KNOW WE LIVE WHERE WE LIVE. WEE& NEED PARKING. BUT IF WE PUT PARKING IN THE BACK OF BUILDINGS THEN AUTOMATICALLY YOUR PLACE JUST INCREASES IN THE QUALITY OF SPACE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING. AND IT ENCOURAGES THE CREATION OF ENGAGING PUBLIC SPACES. AGAIN,,& IF WE'RE IF WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER ALL THE PEOPLE, PLACES, THE BUILDINGS AND AROUND THE PUBLIC REALM, INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT DIVISION BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT, PUBLIC SPACES AND BUILDINGS, IF WE IF WE IF WEE& SKIP THE PARKING LOT, PUT IT IN& THE BACK, THEN YOU'RE COMBINING IT ALL TOGETHER AND YOU CREATE THESE OUTDOOR ROOMS WHERE PEOPLE ENJOY BEING. THIS IS A RENDER OF THAT, OF THAT, OF THAT TRANSIT PLAZA WITH THE WITH JUST A MOCK UP OF THE CITY HALL NEXT TO IT. 
          AGAIN, THE PARKING LOT SCREENED BY BY BUILDINGS AND TREES. THIS& IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE UP FRONT, RIGHT? COMBINING SHADE AND TRANSIT TOGETHER WITH JUST A NOTCH UP OF DENSITY. RIGHT? SOO& YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE OVER TWO STORIES IN THE REGION. IF YOU I& STUDIES HAVE SHOWN, IF YOU JUST INCREASE THAT TO TWO STORIES IN THIS, THIS CODE ENCOURAGES THAT YOUR LAND VALUE, LIKE YOUR LAND VALUATION, WHAT YOU WHAT YOUR INCREMENT IN TAXATION AND YOUR VALUE FOR REALLY THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE TOURS. AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO DOO& WITH THE TOURS IS JUST INCREDIBLE. IT'S VERY POWERFUL TO JUST GO UP ONE FLOOR, MAYBE TWO. WE'RE NOT TALKING NEW YORK DENSITY HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST IT'S JUST AN INCREMENTAL DENSITY THAT YOU'LL SEE A HUGE BENEFIT ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE CITY. IT COMBINES OPEN SPACES WHERE APPROPRIATE. AND AGAIN, THE UTILIZATION OF CITY OWNED PARCELS. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, ALSO USING THIS CODE TO ENHANCE AND BEAUTIFY THE PUBLIC REALM. THE MIX OF USES. YOU CAN HAVE A COFFEE SHOP WITHIN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS OF WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. THIS. THIS CODE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT A THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE USED TO, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE USED TOO& NOT HAVING SUCH INTENSE USES AROUND IT. SO THIS IS ALL THISS& ALL HAS TRANSITIONAL ZONING BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES. SO PLACES LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S MULTIFAMILY THA& THAT SORT OF MIDDLE HOUSING, NOT SINGLE FAMILY, NOT REALLY LIKEE& NOT REALLY HUGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, BUT SOMETHING INN& BETWEEN IS WHAT'S SLATED TO BE IN BETWEEN THESE SPACES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE SINGL& FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE APPROPRIATE SPACES. I'M GOING T& HAND THIS OFF TO VICTORIA TOO& TAKE US THROUGH THE PROCESS THA& SHE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN. SORRY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL. 
          HELLO. NICE TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. JUST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE REZONING, LIKE WE MENTIONED BACK IN THE HEARING LAST MONTH, WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING ON TUESDAY, JUNE 17TH..& 
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WE INVITED MEMBERS WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA AND ALSO THE 200 BUFFER. IN THIS MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION, OPEN CONVERSATION. HAD THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OFF& THEIR IDEAS OF WHAT OUR REZONING IS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ALL ARE CLEAR OF WHAT'S IN A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO WE DID POST OUR SIGNAGE JUST TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE. AS THEY DRIVE BY, WHAT'S& GOING TO BE HAPPENING. WE POSTED TWO SIGNAGE. SINCE THE PROJECT IS SO BIG. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WE HAVE IT ON DARRINGTON ROADD& AND ON THE OTHER ONE NEAR DILLEY DRIVE AND NEXT TO, I BELIEVE, IS IT ROD RODMAN? RODMAN THANK YOU. RODMAN. SO THOSE WERE BEEN UP SINCE THE FIRST HEARING A COUPLE EARLY OF LAST MONTH. JUST TOO& GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW FAR THE 200 BUFFER WENT OUT, WE REACHED OUT WITH MAILINGS TOO& THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT TOD AND WITHOUT. WE SENT OUT ABOUT 167 OF THOSE NOTICES. THERE WAS ABOUT 14 EMAILS AND CALLS THAT CAME THAT CAME INN& FROM THE HEARING TILL TODAY, MOSTLY JUST COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, JUST TO& GET CLARIFICATION. AND AGAIN,,& JUST TO SHOW THE SITE THE CITYY& IS IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING SOME OF THOSE PARCELS TO CREATE SOME OF THE PONDING, SOME OF THE CIVIC CENTER AREAS. THERE IS A TOTAL OF 293 PARCELS IN THOSE AREAS. AS OF RIGHT NOW. THE EXISTING ZONING IS A MIXTURE OF R-2, SINGLE FAMILY, R-4 SINGLE FAMILY AND C1 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. NOW THE R-4 IS THE MOST DOMINANT OF THOSE. AND LET'S JUST KEEP IN MIND ALL OF THESE ARE VACANT PARCELS. SO THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT AT THIS MOMENT IN THESE AREAS. THE PLAN IS TO REZONE THESE TO WHAT THE FORM BASED CODE IS THAT WE APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO THEY'LL BE ALIGNED WITH THE TOD FORM BASED CODE. WE HAVE CIVIC, WHICH IS 18 PARCELS, T THREE SUB SUBURBAN, 36 PARCELS, T4 URBAN, 131 PARCELS, T5 MIXED USE 85 PARCELS AND PONDING WITH 15 PARCELS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THAT BOTTOM, THAT SELF PART OF THE TOD AREA JUST BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BUILDINGS THERE COMMERCIAL AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CONFLICTS IN THAT. SO THOSE WIL& NOT BE AFFECTED WITH THE REZONE TODAY. JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF THE ZONING AROUND. YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE IS SOME R-4 ZONING ON THE EAST SIDE, R-4 WITH A LITTLE BIT OF C1 GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS THE SOUTH. AND THEN WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A ONE AND R1 ABOUT TO THE WEST. AND WITH THAT I WILL BRING IT BACK. BUT IF ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL BE OPEN TO HEAR ANY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, SIR? IT'S A PUBLIC. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. OH, SO NOT YET. ALMOST, ALMOST. IS THAT THE END OF YOUR& THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. SO IF ANYONE CAN THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW WITH THA& THANK YOU, MAYOR. BEING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? NO. SEEING THAT THERE IS NO ONE THA& WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS AGEND& 
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ITEM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 29, ITEM NUMBER 29. 
          THIS IS THE DISCUSSION AND ACTION PORTION OF THIS SAME ITE& AS PREVIOUSLY READ INTO THE RECORD. PREVIOUSLY READ. PREVIOUSLY READ. THANK YOU. II& WAS WONDERING HOW YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT. SHE'S A PRO. THAT'S& WHY SHE'S A PRO. SO OKAY. NOW ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT. YOU KNOW US AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE INHERITED THIS THIS PLAN FROM SEVERAL COUNCILS. AND I REMEMBER GOING TO AUSTIN WITH TERRY AND SEVERAL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, THIS THIS HAS BEEN A DREAM FOR HORIZON CITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS TERRITORY OUT HERE. BUT IT'S BEEN AN EYESORE, ANDD& THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TOO& DO SOMETHING JUST AND PUT, I MEAN, AND MAKE THIS A JEWEL OF, I THINK THE COUNTY. BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE, ASS& THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO SEE TO IT 
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THAT THAT DEVELOPS EXACTLY AS IT'S BEEN PLANNED OUT. WE'VE, WE'VE. INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS PROJECT, AND I BELIEVE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL TO SEE TO IT THAT IT DEVELOPS EXACTLY AS IT'S PRESENTED TO US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALDERMAN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. 
          AVILA. AYE. ONE MORE TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AMES A GIRDLE, A MENDOZA. I MOTION CARRIES. 
          CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. AND, MAYOR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK FROM WAY BACK WHEN. IT'S ALL OF US. SO THIS IS AWESOME. I THIS IS AN EXCITING TIME FOR HORIZON. SO THANK YOU ALL THAT EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. THI& IS A THIS WAS A LONG ONE. SO THANK YOU. SO WE'LL GO GO AHEAD 
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AND MOVE ON TO BACK TO ITEM 13. ITEM NUMBER 13 THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM. THI& IS THAT THE CHIEF BE AUTHORIZED TO PURCHASE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $81,166.30, USING PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL ASSISTANT CHIEF. I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ASSISTANT CHIEF WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THE PURPOSE FOR THIS REQUEST IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE PURCHASING CAPITAL ITEMS NOT PREVIOUSLY PLACED IN THE 2024 2025 BUDGET. DURING THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, W& ARE ANTICIPATING TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2000. I'M SORRY, $277,136 REMAINING AND UNUSED FUNDS FROM THE 2425 BUDGET. TYPICALLY, WE USE THESE SURPLUS FUNDS TO PURCHASE NEEDED POLICE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR. SINCE THIS EQUIPMENT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED AND THIS EQUIPMENT EXCEEDS THE MAYOR'S PURCHASING AUTHORITY, WE PRESENT THIS REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TONIGHT. MOST OF THE SURPLUS FUNDING COMES FROM SALARY AND BENEFIT SAVINGS FROM VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE HAD TO INCLUD& THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, POSITION SERGEANT, DETECTIVE AND OTHER OFFICERS. WE ARE RESPECTFULLYY& REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING BUDGET LINE ITEMS. AMENDMENTS FROM THE FOLLOWING ACCOUNTS. AND THIS IS THE SURPLUS ACCOUNT. I WAS TALKING ABOUT 277,136. THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE FROM VACANCIES. AND WE ARE REQUESTING $81,166.30. AND WE ANTICIPATE A RETURN TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE $195,000 970. THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR PURCHASE. 
          ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A HARLEY-DAVIDSON ELECTRA. ELECTRA GLIDE MOTORCYCLE. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A FLOCK SAFETY LICENSE PLATE. READERS AND ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ARE AXON BODY CAMERAS AND AXON TASERS. THE FIRST ONE, THE HARLEY MOTORCYCLE. THIS IS TO CONTINUE PROACTIVELY SEEKING WAYS TO CONTINUE OUR NUMBER OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR CHART HERE IN 2022, WHEN CHIEF VARGAS TOOK OVER THE DEPARTMENT, HE IMPLEMENTED DAX, WHICH IS A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO CRIME AND TRAFFIC SAFETY. BASICALLY, WHAT THAT IS, IS WEE& GET HOTSPOTS FOR CRIMES AND TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IN THE CITY. THAT'S PROVIDED BY LIEUTENANT VALDEZ FROM CID, AND SHE PROVIDES THAT TO LIEUTENANT RODRIGUEZ FROM PATROL. AND WE DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES TO THOSE AREAS TO BETTER HANDLE THOSE ACCIDENTS AND CRIME, TO HAVE HIGHER VISIBILITY FOR OFFICERS THERE, ADDING AN ADDITIONAL MOTORCYCLE UNIT WILL ALLOW US T& FOCUS THE CURRENT MOTORCYCLEE& UNIT THAT WE HAVE NOW IN THE NEW ONE IN THESE AREAS, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE A CONTINUING CONTINUING THAT REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS SINCE WE'VE HAD SINCE 2022. OH, I'M SORRY. 
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AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS US TO HAVE OUR PATROL OFFICERS OUT FOR THEIR CALLS INSTEAD OF HANDLING ACCIDENTS, WHICH WOULD BE HANDLED BY OUR MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS. FATALITIES THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE 2022 HAS ONLY BEEN FIVE. SO WE'VE DONE VERY, VERY WELL THERE. AND OUR OUR TOP CRASH LOCATIONS WILL BE HORIZON AND DARRINGTON. DARRINGTON AND PAULINE. HORIZON AND CANONAZO IS EASTLAKE, HORIZON, MESA AND DARRINGTON AND RUDY KUFFNER. AND THREE OF THOSE ARE IN THIS VERY HIGH CONSTRUCTION AREA THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, WHICH WITH THE MOTORCYCLE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND FASTER TO THESE AREAS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. THE CONSTRUCTION CAUSES CONGESTION, AND THE REGULAR UNITS ARE IT'SS& HARDER FOR THEM TO GET TO THOSE AREAS. THEY'RE ALSO THEY'RE MORE INCONSPICUOUS. THEY CAN THEY CAN ASSIST US IN ADDRESSING THESE AREAS WITH THE HIGH TRAFFIC ACCIDENT, HIGH TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. SUCH AS THESE HEREE& THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. I TALKED ABOUT THE EXPAND OUR MOTOR UNITS TO TWO MOTORCYCLE UNITS, AND WE CAN ALSO USE THEM IN AREAS SUCH AS SCHOOL ZONES. THEY'RE EASIER TO MANEUVER AROUND IN THE TRAFFIC THERE AS WELL. AND PARADES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE COST FOR THESE ARE GOING TO BE WELL, FIRST OFF, A VEHICLE COSTS ABOUT $90,000 FOR A MOTOR FOR A PATROL UNIT T& BE FULLY DECKED OUT, PURCHASED AND FULLY DECKED OUT WITHH& LIGHTS, SIRENS, ALL THAT. THE MOTORCYCLE UNIT COSTS US $30,000, SO THAT'S A $60,000. SAVING THE FUEL. THE MILES PER GALLON, IT'S 25 TO 30 COMPARED TO A PATROL UNIT. THE TRAININGG& IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR A TRAFFIC OFFICER BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO ATTEND COURSES FOR SPECIAL TRAFFIC INVESTIGATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MOTORCYCLE ENDORSEMENT. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, BUT IT'S ONLY ONE OFFICER THERE FOR A MOTOR UNIT, INSURANCE AND UNIFORMS. IT'S THE SAME FOR THE PATROLL& UNITS AS WELL. WHY A HARLEY-DAVIDSON? THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS, BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE HARLEY-DAVIDSON NOW IN OUR FLEET. IT WAS IT WAS PARKED OUT FRONT TODAY. SO WE WANT TO KEEP& THAT UNIFORMITY GOING WITH HARLEY-DAVIDSON. HARLEYS ARE DEPENDABLE. IT'S A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN THE OTHER TYPE OF MOTORCYCLES OUT THERE FOR POLICE WORK, THE COST SAVING AND MAINTENANCE. WE ALSO HAVE A MECHANIC WHO'S HARLEY CERTIFIED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ASSISTS US WITH MAINTENANCE. SO THAT'S ALSO WHY WE WANT TO STAY WITH HARLEY-DAVIDSON. WE HAVE A GREAT BARNETT HAS BEEN GREAT TO& US HERE LOCALLY. THEY'RE A VERY& GOOD, REPUTABLE VENDOR FOR US. 
          THE BODY CAMERAS AND TASERS. SOME OF OUR OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY HAVE TO WEAR BODY CAMERAS BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTMENT GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD AND OTHER ISSUES. SO EACH ONE HAVING THEIR OWN TASER IS MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL IN CASE THERE I& A DAMAGE TO SOME THAT WE HAVE T& SEND THEM BACK TO REPAIR, WEE& HAVE AN EXTRA ONE FOR BACKUP AS WELL, AND THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE DEPARTMENT WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AS WELL. 
          THE FLOCK SAFETY LICENSE PLATE READERS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE& THAT ARE BEING PAID FOR BY A GRANT. THE CURRENT CAMERAS HAVE& BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL TO US IN CRIMINAL AND TRAFFIC INVESTIGATIONS. WE HAD A UPS THEFT CASE LATE FEBRUARY EARLY MARCH THAT THAT WAS SOLVED THROUGH THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM. WE HAD A AN ASSAULT AT WALMART THAT WAS ALSO SOLVED USING THE FLOCK SYSTEM. AND WE ALSO ASSISTED EL PASO POLICE DEPARTMENT HOMICIDE IN ONE OF THEIR CASES, WHERE WE CAUGHT ONE OF THEIR SUSPECT VEHICLES ANDD& OUR FLOCK CAMERA GOING THROUGH OUR CITY. AND THERE'S ALSO A. CITYWIDE STATEWIDE LPR FOR OTHER AGENCIES LIKE PD, DPS, THEY EVEN HAVE THEM AT HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S. IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, YOU YOU SEE THEM WITH THEIR LITTLE TRAILER AND THEIR LIGHTS. WE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE AS WELL THROUGH FLOCK, AND WE WANT TOO& PLACE THESE FLOCK CAMERAS ON WHERE WE'RE LACKING NOW, WHICH WOULD BE THE ASHFORD AREA AND 
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THE NORTH CANAL AREA. THE INITIAL COST IS 14,000 FOR THESE AND 5000 ANNUALLY AFTER THAT. 
          AND THAT'S, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S PAID THROUGH GRANTS OR CONFISCATED FUNDS AS WELL. SO WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING TO PURCHASE THESE ITEMS TO ADDRESS CURRENT CRIMES& AND TRAFFIC ISSUES, ESPECIALLY THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AS WELL. WITH FUNDS, WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TOO& COVER WITH THE SURPLUS FUNDS. OUR TOTAL ESTIMATED SURPLUS IS $277,136, AND THE COST FOR THESE ITEMS WOULD BE $81,166. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST. THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. YOUR TIME. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE TRAINED OFFICER ON ON OPERATING A MOTORCYCLE. YES, SIR. WE CURRENTLY DO. WE'RE ONCE WE PURCHASE THE SECOND ONE. OR DO WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND TO, TO TRAIN AS A SECOND OFFICER? WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO BE A MOTOR OFFICER. I& NOT, THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP OUTSIDE AND THEN WE'LL. AND IS THERE A WAY TO REQUEST THAT THESE TWO OFFICERS BE RENAMED TO OFFICER PONCHERELLO AND OFFICER BAKER? I THINK I THINK WE WOULD DO THAT. I GUARANTEE THEY'RE BETTER LOOKING, YOU KNOW, SO THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, HOW DO THEY WORK NOW? SO THEY'RE STATIONED IN STRATEGIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND AS YOU GO BY THEM, I GUARANTEE YOU GONE BY THROUGH SEVERAL OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST HORIZON CITY. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU KNOW? DO YOU PUT A LICENSE PLATE IN, IN THE SYSTEM& AND IT ALERTS OR YOU COULD DO I& THAT WAY, OR LET'S SAY THERE WAS A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT AND SOMEBODY SAYS IT WAS A WHITE FORD F-150 WITH STICKERS IN THE BACK WINDOW AND NO REAR BUMPER. WE CAN INPUT THAT DATA, AND IT'LL GIVE US ALL THE VEHICLES THAT MATCH THAT, AND THEN WE SORT THROUGH IT TOO& FIND THE VEHICLE WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU CAN ALSO DO IT THROUGH LICENSE PLATES AS WELL. WOW. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. IT'S VERYY& GOOD PASSIVE TECHNOLOGY. ALL THIS NEW STUFF THAT THAT'SS& COMING. THAT'S COOL STUFF. ASSISTANT CHIEF, COULD YOU CLARIFY? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE SHARED DATA ACCESS WITH THE LICENSE PLATE. READERS OF THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO& EL PASO, YEAH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE ANY. IT'S I GUESS IT'S TOO BIG FOR THEM. THEY BUT WE DO HAVE IT WITH PD WITH DPS, HOME DEPOT LOWE'S OKAY. AND THEN ALSO FOR THESE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, ARE WE USING THE SAME VENDOR FOR PREEXISTING BODY CAMERAS, TASERS, LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE MOTORCYCLE? YES, YES WE ARE. AND THEN REGARDING THE MOTORCYCLE PURCHASE, I'M ASSUMING IN ADDITION TO THE EXPENDITURE, IT'S ALSO GOING TO COME WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS INCLUDING INSURANCE, FUEL, SCHEDULED SERVICING, REPLACEMENT PARTS. WERE THESE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE COSTS INCLUDED WITHIN THE $27,000 BUDGET INCREASE? REQUEST FOR THE MAINTENANCE VEHICLES LINE ITEM. PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT. YEAH, NO, BUT JUST A PORTION OF IT DUE TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CONTRACT. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, I THINK THIS QUESTION IS FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET UP HERE. YES, SIR. THIS WAY WITH IT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR BOTH THE BODY CAMERAS AND LICENSE PLATE READERS, DO WE KNOW WHETHER OUR EXISTING IT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE STORAGE AND PROCESSING NEEDS, OR WILLL& UPGRADES BE REQUIRED IN THE FUTURE? THEIR CLOUD BASED, CLOU& BASED SOLUTIONS. SO IT'S STORED WITHIN EXXON SERVERS. THE CAPACITY FOR STORAGE IS BIG. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY HANDLING THE STORAGE OF THAT. THAT'S THROUGH THAT, THROUGH AXION. YES. SO THIS IS THROUGH AXON. WE DON'T HANDLE IT ON SITE. WE DON'T. SO IT'S BASED O& THEIR SERVERS. AND THEN. THE TRUCK SYSTEM AS WELL IS HANDLED THROUGH THROUGH THROUGH. YES. 
          SORRY. SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. THE TASERS IS THROUGH AXON AND THE FLOCK IS THROUGH FLOCK SAFETY OKAY. AND YOU JUST ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION. OTHER THAN THAT NO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YES, SIR. SEVERAL QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY. SEVERAL. HAVE WEE& LOOKED AT OTHER HARLEY-DAVIDSON DEALERS? IF WE'RE STICKING TOO& THE ONE BRAND WE ACTUALLY DID, WE GOT THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES IN BARNETT. THE ONE WE'RE GOING WITH WAS THE CHEAPEST FOR THE SAME MOTORCYCLE. THE REASON I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE I'M A WRITER MYSELF AND I'VE YET TO BUY A 
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BIKE FROM THEM. MY BIKES HAVEE& COME FROM FARMINGTON, ALBUQUERQUE, SAN DIEGO. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS BECAUSE I RIDE MYSELF AS WELL. AND I HAD TO GO TO ODESSA TO BUY A MOTORCYCLE ONE TIME. BUT HARLEY, THEY'RE VERY PROLONGED ENFORCEMENT. WELL, ADDING THE I KNOW BEFORE WHEN THEY CAME UP WITH THE FIREFIGHTER EDITION MOTORCYCLE, IT WAS CHEAPER TOO& BUY IT ELSEWHERE AS A FIREFIGHTER THAN FROM BARNETT HIMSELF. IT WAS LIKE A $2,500 OR MORE DIFFERENCE. AGAIN, 2500 2500 IS WELL WORTH THE SAVINGS TO DRIVE UP TO ALBUQUERQUE, TOO& DRIVE UP TO FARMINGTON, TO DRIVE UP TO ARIZONA. RIGHT. AND I EXPECTED THE SAME, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHY. BUT BARNETT CAME OUT LOWER THAN THE OTHER TWO AS FAR AS, AGAIN, ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS WAS, I KNOW EL PASO ALSO HAS HARLEY AND KAWASAKI A BIG DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS WEIGHT WISE? I BELIEVE THESE BIKES ARE LIKE 9,900 POUNDS PLUS VERSUS THE KAWASAKI IS WAY UNDER THE MILEAGE I BELIEVE WAS INCORRECT ON THE SLIDE BECAUSE I THINK HARLEY GIVES YOU 50 MILES TO THE GALLON OR BETTER. AND SAME THING WITH KAWASAKI. DID WE EVEN CONSIDER KAWASAKI OR DID WE CALL ANY OF THE KAWASAKI DEALERS? I'M NOT, I'M NOT I'M NOT PUTTING DOWN THE BRAND. I'M JUST PRICE AS WELL AS EVEN FOR TRAINING PURPOSES, TO MANEUVER A LIGHTER BIKE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. WE DID CONSIDER IT, BUT GOING BACK, SINCE WE ALREADY HAD THAT ONE HARLEY. AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPENDABILITY WE'VE HAD WITH IT AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE DO HAVE WITH BARNETT. SO WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT UNIFORM AND STAY WITH HARLEY DAVIDSON. GOT IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. I WANT TO PASS YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT. NOT THE MOTORCYCLE. SORRY. THANK YOU. SO IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TOO& APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. ORTEGA A AVILA, A AMES, A CORDELL, A MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU..& CHIEF. CHIEFS. CHIEFS. ITEM 
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NUMBER 14. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS IS THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE BE AUTHORIZED TOO& PURCHASE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT. EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $89,770 USING PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS FUNDS FROM THE DISPATCH BUDGET. HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. RAMOS, COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER. GOOD EVENING. IRLANDA HUERTA, COMMUNICATION ASSISTANT MANAGER. SO WE'RE HERE TOO& DISCUSS THE SURPLUS. SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO PURCHASE FOURR& ITEMS. FINANCE DID PROJECT SURPLUS OF $170,000 WITH EIGHT 170,883 WITH $0.75. THE FIRST ITEM WE'RE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL FOR IS THE RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM RELOCATION. THE SECOND ONE IS THE CONSOLE ALIAS MANAGER. THIRD IS A NEW ANTENNA, AND THE FOURTH IS SIX UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SUPPLIES UPS, WHICH TOTALED TO $89,770. SO FOR THE RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM RELOCATION, THE RADIO TOWER THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IN THE PICTURE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE MOVED OVER T& THE NEW FACILITY WITH RELOCATIO& PLAN MORE OR LESS MID SEPTEMBER. 
          ALSO FIVE MOTOROLA RADIO CONSOLES WILL BE ALSO RELOCATED& ALONG WITH ALL OTHER RADIO EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE MOVED OVER TO THE NEW FACILITY. FOR THE MOMENT. WHILE EVERYTHING IS RELOCATED TO THE NEW FACILITY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR DISPATCHERS MOVING OVER TOO& THREADGILL. THAT'S OUR BACKUP CENTER AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE DISPATCHER HERE ATTENDING T& CITIZENS. STILL, THIS AMOUNT TO& MOVE EVERY EVERYTHING FOR RADIO EQUIPMENT TO INCLUDE THE RADIO TOWER IS $58,500. I'M GOING TOO& TURN IT OVER TO YOLANDA. THE ADDITIONAL ITEM, I'M SORRY, ITEM WE'RE REQUESTING IS COUNCIL ALIAS MANAGER. THIS IS A SOFTWARE TOOL DESIGNED TO MANAGE AND EXPORT RADIO ID ALIASES FROM DISPATCH CONSOLES. THIS WILL ALLOW DISPATCHERS TO VIEW 
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OFFICERS NAME INSTEAD OF THE RADIO IDS ON THEIR CONSOLE. IT ALSO ENSURES CONSISTENT CONTACT LIST TO MAINTAIN ACROSS ALL MOBILE AND PORTABLE RADIOS. WHE& AN OFFICER ACTIVATES THEIR MOBILE OR PORTABLE RADIO, DISPATCHERS WILL SEE THE OFFICER'S NAME INSTEAD OF THE RADIO IDS ON THE SCREEN. THE AMOUNT FOR THIS PURCHASE IS $10,000. I DO WANT TO MENTION THE CAMP SERVER. IT'S A LITTLEE& BIT BLURRY. THE PICTURE ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE THAT IT SAYS COMMAND FOLLOWED BY THE LAST NAME. THAT'S THE WAY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR OFFICERS LAST NAMES AS WELL AS THEIR THEIR VEHICLES. THIS SITE, IT SHOWS HOW IT'S SHOWING RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU SEE WHAT'S WITH THE RED MARKING, THAT'S OUR CHANNEL HKPD OPS BACKUP. AND IT& HAS A RADIO ID, THE TEN, ZEROO& FOUR OR EVEN UNKNOWN. SO WE DO HAVE AN OFFICER CALLING OUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S DISPLAYING. WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING APPROVAL TOO& PURCHASE A NEW ANTENNA SYSTEM. 
          THE ANTENNA IS LOCATED ON RYDERWOOD ASHFORD WATER TOWER. THIS WAS LAST REPLACED IN 2018, AND IT IS RECOMMENDED TO BE REPLACED EVERY FIVE YEARS. A NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR CAN LEAD T& POSSIBLE MALFUNCTION AND SYSTEM FAILURES. THE PURCHASE FOR THIS ITEM IS 7500. AND LASTLY, THE LAST ITEM WE'RE REQUESTING IS THE UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SUPPLY, WHICH IS A UPS EQUIPMENT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A UPS THAT'S OBSOLETE AND THEY'RE NO LONGER MAKING THE BATTERIES.& THE MODEL IS GOING TO BE A 2017. ALL RADIO EQUIPMENT MUST BE SAFEGUARDED FROM POWER OUTAGES AND VOLTAGE SURGES, AS THESE CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE EQUIPMENT. AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA. OUR COUNCILS WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCILS. THEY WERE INSTALLED JANUARY OF 2024, AND THEY WERE GIVEN TO US THROUGH A GRANT. AND THE COST IS ABOUT 700, $750,000& MORE OR LESS. ALSO, WE WANT TO ENSURE CONTINUOUS OPERATION OF THE RADIO EQUIPMENT DURING POWER DISRUPTIONS, PREVENT DATA LOSS AND SAFEGUARD AGAINST EQUIPMENT DAMAGE, TO AVOID COMMUNICATION SYSTEM OUTAGES AND ENSURE, MORE& THAN ANYTHING, OUR OFFICER SAFETY AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THIS IS 13,770. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? WHAT WAS 750,000 OUR CONSOLES. SO WE HAV& OUR NEW CONSOLES AND DISPATCH. IT'S FIVE CONSOLES TO INCLUDE THE CONSULATE'S. THE CONSULATE'S WOULD BE THE RADIOS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I WAS I HAVE A QUESTION. PIGGYBACKING ON THAT QUESTION, I THOUGHT THE 7500 WAS FOR THE ANTENNA. THE ANTENNA THAT'S OVER BY HORIZON HEIGHTS. SO YES ON. 
          RIGHT. SO GO BACK THROUGH THE GO BACK THROUGH THE. OH IT'S FOR THE NEW ANTENNA. THE NEW ANTENNA ON THE WATER TOWER. I DIDN'TT& MEAN TO CONFUSE YOU. SO I'M TRYING TO PROTECT MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE& THE MOTOROLA CONSOLES WITH THE CONSULATE'S. THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO US THROUGH A GRANT THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY $750,000. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE UPS IS. THE UPS WILL BE PROTECTING THAT THOSE. 
          YES. AND THIS IS THE ONE THATT& NEEDS TO GET REPLACED EVERY FIVE YEARS. NO, THAT WOULD BE AN ANTENNA THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. THE UPS BACKUPS ARE OBSOLETE OR THEY DON'T MAKE THEM. SO YES. SO THE UPS WHAT IS PROTECTING. LET'S SAY WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE. IT'S PROTECTINGG& OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE ONN& OUR RADAR ROOM AS WELL AS DISPATCH, THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THE RADIO ANTENNA. OKAY. GOING BACK TO IDENTIFYING OFFICERS TOO& PORTABLE RADIOS, I KNOW MOBILE UNITS ARE ASSIGNED OR RADIOS AND MOBILE UNITS ARE ASSIGNED TO TH& ACTUAL UNIT ITSELF, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO PICK UP WHO'S ON DUTY, IT WOULD ACTUALLY IT JUST A DISCIPLINE OF HAVING TO LOG IN AND CREATE THE NAME OF THE PERSON GOING TO BE HOLDING THE RADIO THAT SHIFT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO FOR PORTABLE RADIOS, EACH OFFICER IS ASSIGNED TO A PORTABLE RADIO OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE PROGRAMED WITH WITHH& THEIR LAST NAMES FOR THE MOBILE RADIOS, WHICH ARE THE UNIT ONES& MOST OFFICERS HAVE TAKE HOME UNITS SO THAT ONE COULD BE ASSIGNED TO THEIR LAST NAME. LET'S SAY CHIEF VARGAS IS IN UNIT 1621, FOR INSTANCE. WEE& COULD PUT IT ON OUR CAD SYSTEMM& THAT HE'S ASSIGNED TO THAT UNIT THAT DAY, AND IT COULD BE CHANGED. YES, SIR. SO ONCE THEY KEY UP, WE SEE UNIT 1621, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE'LL KNOW THAT 
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HE'S THE ONE ON THAT UNIT. THAT'S GREAT TRACKING. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SORRY. GO AHEAD. CAN WE GO BACK TO THEE& SLIDE WHERE THE IMAGE OF THE TOWER OF THE ANTENNA THAT'S BEING MOVED TO THE NEW MUNICIPAL BUILDING. OKAY. SLIDE THREE. OKAY. I THINK ON THAT ONE, WE'R& TALKING ABOUT THE RADIO TOWER BEING MOVED AND THE FIVEE& MOTOROLA MCC 7500 E RADIO CONSOLES. ARE THESE RADIOS PART& OF THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE REPROGRAMED FOR THE INTERNET? NO, SIR. SO THIS WOULD BE ACTUAL ACTUALLY THE RADIO EQUIPMENT ITSELF, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PORTABLE RADIOS OR MOBILE RADIOS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. IT'S WHAT WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR OFFICERS. YES, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COULD YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE DIAGRAM OF ALL THE PURCHASES? I& THINK IT'S CLOSER TOWARDS THE BOTTOM. OF THE FOUR ITEMS. YES,& IT WOULD BE PAGE TWO. SLIDE TWO. SLIDE TWO. THAT ONE. SO I'M WONDERING FOR THE NEW ANTENNA SYSTEM FOR MAIN REPEALER. THAT'S THE $7,500 ITEM. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE ANTENNA NEEDS TO BE REPLACED EVERY FIVE YEARS. FIVE YEARS? YES. IT'S RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED. AND SO& IS THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING WITH THE CURRENT ANTENNA OR WAS THAT ONE INSTALLED. NO, BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS INSTALLED BACK IN 2018 OKAY. THAT'S ALL OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. SURE. NEW BUILDING. I ASSUME YOU HAVE GENERATOR BACKUP, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE IT HERE AS WELL? YES, MA'AM. WE DO. OKAY, SO THE UPS IS TO BRIDGE THE GAP FROM THE TIME THAT THE GENERATOR KICKS ON. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONE WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S OBSOLETE. SO WE'RE HAVING, LIKE, WE WOULD HAVE ISSUES IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE IT'S OBSOLETE. SO IT'S HARD TOO& FIND BATTERIES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL. ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. AMES. GARDEA. MENDOZA. HI. 
          [15. Discussion and Action]
MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LADIES. THANK YOU. ITEMM& NUMBER 15. THIS IS A DISCUSSION& AND ACTION ITEM. THIS IS ON THE AWARD OF SOLICITATION 2025124 RFP FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE, FPD REBID PROJECT TO ONE STOP MOBILE TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST AND COMMUNICATION, LLC. WE'RE ALMOST THERE, COUNCIL, I PROMISE YOU. WELL, WITH YOURS. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. MARCO VARGAS, CHIEF OF& POLICE FOR HORIZON CITY. SO THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU IS, IS THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BACKGROUND. SO THE HORIZON CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE POLICE VEHICLES ARE LEASED. AND THOSE LEASED VEHICLES DO NOT COME EQUIPPED WITH ANY POLICE POLICING EQUIPMENT WHATSOEVER. ITEMS MUST BE PURCHASED BY OURSELVES AND THEN HAVE THOSE ITEMS INSTALLED. ONCE THOSE VEHICLES ARE TURNED OVER BACK T& THE LEASEE, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM BACK INTO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION THAT WE RECEIVE THEM. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A CONTRAC& WITH ANYBODY TO INSTALL, DIAGNOSE OR REPAIR ANY OF OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLE EQUIPMENT. AND AGAIN, THIS REQUEST IS A FORMAL, FORMALLY REQUEST THE AWARD OF THIS CONTRACT TO THE VENDOR THAT HAS A GOOD REPUTATION FOR QUALITY WORKMANSHIP AND IS MOBILE AND AVAILABLE TO US HERE IN IN HORIZON CITY. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME, SOME NUMBERS, THE AVERAGE COST OF INSTALLING THE POLICE EQUIPMENT IS AROUND $6,500, AND THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF, AGAIN, IT AVERAGES AROUND $38,137. SO THE PROPOSAL AGAIN PROVIDE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION, PROVIDE A TROUBLING TROUBLESHOOTING SERVICES FOR PATROL CARS, MOTORCYCLES AND UNDERCOVER VEHICLES. THIS SERVICE WILL MAINTAIN OUR VEHICLES OPERATIONAL READINESS AND ENSUR& THAT ALL EMERGENCY VEHICLE EQUIPMENT IS INSTALLED, FUNCTIONAL AND REPAIRED AS NEEDED. AND THEN THE WORK THEY'RE GOING TO WORK DIRECTLYY& WITH US TO MINIMIZE DOWNTIME, ENSURE SAFETY COMPLIANCE AND ENSURE VEHICLES ARE OPERATIONAL 24 OVER SEVEN. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK, QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WAS ON THAT CONTRACT INSTALLATION OF EMERGENCY LIGHTS, INTERNAL LIGHTING, AND SPECIFIC FOR TASK SPECIFIC AND CARGO TROUBLESHOOTING. INOPERABLE LIGHTS, INSTALLATION OF THE MOBILE COMPUTERS, TROUBLESHOOTING ELECTRICAL ISSUES, INSTALLATION OF VEHICLE CAGES. INSTALLATION OF SLIDE OUT TRAYS ON CALL 24 OVER SEVEN. 
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INSTALLATION OF THE A MOBILE RADIOS. INSTALLATION OF OTHER EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT. THE VIDEO SYSTEMS, THE CAR VIDEO RECORDING SYSTEMS. THE GUN RACKS RADARS AGAIN SERVICE ON MOTORCYCLES AND UNDERCOVER VEHICLES ITSELF, AND THEN THE CUSTOMIZATION OF ANY FABRICATION OF ANY SPECIFIC METAL BRACKETS THAT NEED TO BE INSTALLED INTO THE VEHICLES. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF OUR OFF& OUR VEHICLES. WE HAVE 35 VEHICLES AND I WANTED TOO& MOTORCYCLES. AND THESE ARE THE TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR FLEET. AGAIN, OUR, OUR NISSAN ALTIMAS DO NOT HAVE OR ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO THAT DO HAVE PRE-INSTALLED BUT ARE NEWER NISSAN ALTIMAS DO& NOT HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLE LIGHTING OR RADIOS. FORM OF COMPETITIVE PROCESS. LIKE LIKE ANY OTHER COMPETITIVE PROCESS,,& IT WAS PUT OUT FOR RFP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AGAIN, QUESTIONS AND MATTER WERE DIRECTED TO MISS ARACELI GONZALEZ, OUR PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, THROUGH THE VENDOR DISCUSSION. AGAIN, ANY ANY QUESTIONS WERE DIRECTED TO HER. AGAIN, WE IF ANYBODY FAILS TO COMPLY, THEY WERE DISQUALIFIED FROM THE SELECTION PROCESS. THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. EACH PROPOSAL WAS EVALUATED ON ITS RESPONSIVENESS TO THE QUESTIONS AGAIN THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO THE SOLICITING PROCESS THAT INCLUDED SCOPE OF SERVICES. 
          QUALIFICATION, QUANTITATIVE CAPABILITIES, ORGANIZATIONAL AND FINANCIAL STABILITY, COMPENSATION, AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS. AND THIS IS THE EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WAS GIVEN TO EACH VENDOR. PRICE, PARTS AND WARRANTY WAS GIVEN A MAXIMUM OF 30 POINTS. OUR HOURLY RATES 20 POINTS. WAYLAND CERTIFICATION BECAUSE THAT'S THE PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE USING. AND JUST A QUICK BRIEF ON THOSE. ON& WHY WE'RE USING WAYLON. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH WITH ESD ONE AND OURSELVES WITH WAYLON T& PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WHEN& A, WHEN AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS APPROACHING A TRAFFIC LIGHT, IT'S GOING TO TURN GREEN FOR THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLE TOO& PROCEED. THE TIMELINE FOR THE AGAIN, TO GIVE US A TIMELINE OF PROJECTED COMPLETION FOR EACH JOB, WHICH IS 15 POINTS AND THEN HISTORY, EXPERIENCE AND REFERENCES, WHICH IS ANOTHER 15 POINTS. SO WE HAD TWO VENDORS THAT THAT SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS ONE STOP MOBILE AND ALAMO AUTO SUPPLY. AND THESE ARE THE RANKINGS. SO WE RANK THE TOTAL SCORE. ONE STOP MOBILE CAME OUT. NUMBER ONE ALAMO SUPPLY CAME OUT NUMBER TWO. AND THAT'S A SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WHAT THEY WERE RANKED ON EACH EACH CATEGORY SPECS OF THE CONTRACT. AGAINN& JUST IDENTIFIED AS THE RFP, A TERM IS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE OPTION OF A SECOND YEAR ATT& THE SAME PRICE. IF WE NOTIFYY& THEM 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RENEWING THE PAYMENT. THE SUBMISSION OF THOSE INVOICES ARE DUE THE 25TH DAY O& THE MONTH, AND THE TERMINATION FOR THAT IS 30 DAYS AFTER WE RECEIVE NOTICE TO CORRECT BREACH BY TO CORRECT A BREACH OF THAT CONTRACT BY EITHER PARTY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR ONE STOP MOBILE TECHNOLOGY AND SPECIALIST TO BE AWARDED THIS CONTRACT AND WE'RE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CHIEF, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR. CHIEF, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA SLIDE? YES, SIR. I'M WONDERING, COULD YOU PROVIDE THE METHODOLOGY AS TO WHY THE TIMELINE FOR PROJECT COMPLETION& AS WELL AS HISTORY EXPERIENCE REFERENCES BOTH CARRY THE SAME VALUE AND WITH THAT HAVE MADEE& THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE SELECTING THE OTHER VENDOR. JUST KIDDING. SORRY. SO WE COORDINATED THESE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR PURCHASING AGENT AND PERHAPS GONZALEZ PURCHASING AGENT. SO THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING A TIMELINE IS BECAUSE ONE STOPP& IS ABLE TO COME TO OUR FACILITY TO DO ANY REPAIRS. SO THAT SHORTENS THE, THE, THE TIME THAT THE VEHICLES ARE OUT OF SERVICE DOWNTOWN, THE DOWNTIME. SO IF YOU HAVE TO DROP OFF A CAR AT ALAMO VERSUS ONE STOP CAN COME HERE, FIX IT, AND THEN WE'RE READY TO GO. THAT'S WHERE THE TIMELINE CAME IN. THE WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU WANTED T& KNOW? OR I'M WONDERING WHY THE LAST TWO EVALUATION CRITERIAS CARRY THE SAME VALUE. SO BASICALLY BECAUSE WE REALIZED PRICE PARKS, THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL TO GET THE BEST PRICE FOR TOWN OF RISING CITY. BUT IF THEY HAVE GOOD REFERENCES, EXPERIENCE AND BASICALLY BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT HISTORY WITH THEM. SO THE WE WERE LEFT WITHH& THE 30. SO WE BASICALLY DECIDED, OKAY, WELL, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE EQUAL. BUT THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT. THEY HAVE SAME 
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IMPORTANCE IN THE PROPOSAL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. NO MORE QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU BEAT HIM. YOU BEAT HIM. CHIEF, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THIS VENDOR IS WILLING TOO& RESPOND TO 24 HOURS. YES, SIR. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF LIMITATIONS? WHEN THEY SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S JUSTT& GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TILL TOMORROW. IN OTHER WORDS, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW TRIVIAL IT MIGHT BE OR HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. 
          SO. SO NORMALLY WE WOULD KIND OF GAUGE THE SITUATION IF IT WAS NECESSARY, WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE& ANY OTHER UNITS AVAILABLE TOO& COME TO DEPLOY, THEN WE WOULD CALL HIM. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE NORMALLY HAVE SOME UNITS THAT ARE THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND IF WE WERE TOO& CALL HIM OUT, IT WOULD BE AN EXTRA CHARGE FOR US. SO IT'S MORE OF A OF A, I GUESS, CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT SOME OF THE OFFICERS HAVE IS JUST MAKINGG& SURE THAT THERE'S A QUICK TURNAROUND SO THEY CAN GO BACK IN SERVICE. RIGHT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS VENDOR IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE FOR US. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. AND ESD IS MORE ESD ONE PROVIDES AREA WHERE HE CAN WORK OUT OF AS WELL. SO IT'S RIGHT RIGHT ACROS& THE STREET. YEAH. BECAUSE SOMETIMES. YEAH. SO THE MAJOR INSTALLS WILL GET DONE OVER AT THE FIRE STATION. AND OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, I MEAN HE'S HE'S GOINGG& TO BE OUT THERE IN THE HOT SUN, YOU KNOW, WORKING. BUT. YES SIR. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR SIR. YES SIR. THE EQUIPMENT IS ACTUALLY LEASED EQUIPMENT OR OUTRIGHT PURCHASE PURCHASE PURCHASE PURCHASE. AND I GUESS IT KIND OF ANSWERED MY QUESTION BECAUSE ON A PURCHASE WE WOULD HAVE TO UPGRADE IF IN CASE SOMETHING NEWER CAME OUT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO, I'LL. IS THERE A MOTION TOO& APPROVE? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. 
          ORTEGA. AVILA. AMES. AYE. AYE. AND. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE. AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ANOTHER ITEM HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TO FINISH OFF YOUR CHIEF. AND I WANT TOO& APOLOGIZE TO MR. FRED LOPEZ. I APOLOGIZE, SIR, I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK OVER THERE UNTIL JUST NOW. BUT IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD. ITEM 27 TO YOU AFTER ITEM NUMBE& 
          [27. Discussion and Action]
15. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 27, DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS ISS& ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY TO SPONSOR THE VETERANS DAY EXPO CELEBRATION TO BE HELD AT DESMOND COCHRAN PARK BY WAIVING THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATION FEE OF $500. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR RUBIO PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S HOSTING IT IS THE LIVING& IN A RETIRED STATE OR VETERANS ASSOCIATION. THE LIARS. LIARS. YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REALLY LIARS. BUT SO THE EXPO IS GOING TO BE HELD NOVEMBER THEE& 8TH FROM 12 TO 4. IT'S GOING TO& BE AT THE DESMOND COCHRAN PARK AND SENIOR CENTER. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SHADED AREAS AND STUFF AND THEN RESTROOMS AND ALL FOR OUR VETERANS. SO IF THEY WANT T& BE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE, YOU KNOW, THE OF THE FACILITY AND THE ASSOCIATION. THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ASSOCIATION, MR. FRED LOPEZ IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. BUT WE THINK IT'S A GREAT EVENT. AND I THINK THE ONLY IMPACT TO, TO THE, TO THEE& CITY WOULD BE $500. THAT'S THE FEE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMI& THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THIS CASE. THANK YOU SIR. MR. LOPEZ,& WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING OR. IT'S UP TO YOU, SIR. SO I'LL KIND OF GIVE A QUICK EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO VETERANS DAY, A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, MUNICIPALITIES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PARADES. SANELLI FABENS, CLINT SOCORRO EVEN HAS THEIR OWN PARADE. WE DO NOT HAVE A PARADE HERE FOR VETERANS DAY THAT THAT HAS EVER TAKEN PLACE HERE WITHIN HORIZON CITY. AND RIGHT NOW PROBABLY ISN'T THE BEST TIME TO HAVE A PARADE BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON. S& WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS THIS VETERANS EXPO, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THE MORNING PARADES FROM ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES, AND WE WOULD INVITE VETERANS FROMM& THE SURROUNDING AREAS TO COME T& HORIZON CITY AND KIND OF KIND 
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OF, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE HAVE A PLACE HERE FOR THEM TO KIND OF MEET AND GREET. THIS WOULD BEE& THE FOCAL POINT FOR THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FOOD FOR THEM, PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, VENDORS WOULD COME OUT THAT WOULD BE FOCUSED MORE TOWARDS VETERANS. IT'S JUS& A WAY FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO KIND OF COME IN AND SEE HORIZON CITY ITSELF. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO WELCOME THEM AFTER THEIR PARADES, AFTER THEIR FUNCTIONS, PROVIDE THEM A SPACE WHERE THEY COULD COME. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS VETERANS EXPOO& IS. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT THAT THE CITY DOES SPONSOR THIS. YES, SIR. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND. HE BEAT YOU BY THIS MUCH? THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LOPEZ. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. HI. ORTEGA. 
          AVILA. HI. HI. HI, MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES BRANCH. WERE YOU IN? FRED? MISTER. LOPEZ? YES..& WHAT BRANCH OF THE MILITARY WER& YOU IN? I WASN'T, I'M NOT A MILITARY. OH, OKAY. YOU WORKED FOR THE RAILROAD, BUT I COMEE& FROM A MILITARY FAMILY, ALL RIGHT. AT THE MOMENT. RIGHT NOW, MY GRANDSON'S AT FORT BLISS, AND I HAVE A. NEPHEW IS A CORPS OF ENGINEERS. I JUST SAW MY COUSIN RETIRED FROM THE NASA. SHE APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR THE. SMALL BUDGET. SMALL BUDGET? IT'S NOTHING LIKE OURS. SMALL BUDGETS IN NASA. SO, MR. LOPEZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. LEARNING EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU. SO YOU 
          [16. Discussion and Action]
GOT IT, SIR. THANK YOU. I TRY T& GO IN THE ARMY, ALL RIGHT? I WAS JUST QUALIFIED. ITEM NUMBER 16. 
          THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM. THIS IS TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY POLICE CHIEF TO SIGN AN MOU WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF OVERTIME WORKED BY THE TASK FORCE. TASK FORCE OFFICER CURRENTLY ASSIGNED THERE. MAYOR& CITY COUNCIL MARCO VARGAS, CHIEF OF POLICE. THANK YOU FOR THE BREAK. BY THE WAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND FORMER MAYOR, II& THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING MEE& UNITED STATES NAVY, BY THE WAY. ALL RIGHT. OUR ARMY, BUT I WAS I DIDN'T HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORDS, I COULDN'T GO. SO THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN ITEM THAT WE WE'RE WE HAV& A SECOND MOU THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED WITH, WITH THE DEPARTMEN& OF HOMELAND SECURITY REGARDING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF OVERTIME FOR OUR CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TASK FORCE OFFICER. SO THE INTRODUCTION, JUSTIFICATION, BENEFITS, INFORMATION, CONCLUSION. AND THEN WE'LL OPEN& IT TO ANY QUESTIONS. SO HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING WITH SINCE 2012. 
          SO JUST RECENTLY BEFORE I, BEFORE I GOT HERE, THE ASSIGNMENT WITH HRSA WAS PULLED. 
          AND THEREFORE IT COSTS OUR OUR FULLY FUNDED POSITION TO BE ELIMINATED AT SEA. SO YOU KNOW AND AGAIN I WILL TELL YOU JUST BRIEFLY, THIS, THIS ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL MOU OR THE ACTUAL MOU FOR THAT FOR THAT COOPERATION WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 2025. BUT I WANT TO PRESENT YOU GUYS WITH THE INFORMATION REGARDING THAT MOU AS WELL, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PULL IT FROM FROM CONSENT AT& THE TIME. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF. OF WHAT THAT, THAT WHAT THAT ASSIGNMENT ENTAILS THE AGREEMENT BASICALLY SEND A DETECTIVE AS A TASK FORCE OFFICER TO PARTICIPATE IN NARCOTICS INVESTIGATIONS ACROSS EL PASO COUNTY. SO JUSTIFICATION AGAIN, NARCOTIC ACTIVITY IS DEFINITELY A PRECURSOR FOR OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. AND I WILL TELL YOU, HORIZON CITY, HAVING WORKED IN THE COUNTY MYSELF WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HORIZON CITY IS DEFINITELY SURROUNDED BY A MAJOR DRUG TRAFFICKING ROUTES AND ACTIVITY. THERE IS ALSO SEVERAL AREAS THAT ARE UNKNOWN TO OUR DEPARTMENT, WHERE NARCOTIC DEALING IS TAKING PLACE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. CURRENTLY, THE HORIZON POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ACTIVELY INVESTIGATE THOSE THAT THOSE THE REPORTED NARCOTIC ACTIVITIES. 
          AND TO ADDRESS THIS, WE REESTABLISHED THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH HHC TO ASSIST US WITH THIS. AGAIN, THAT THAT LACK OF THAT INVESTIGATIVE UNIT PUTS OUR ABILITY TO PROACTIVELY RESPOND TO CRIMES IN DELAY. AND THAT DELAY COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREVENTION AND APPREHENSION OF INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION, THERE IS NO MEANS OF RECOVERY FOR NARCOTIC RELATED SEIZURES. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO BE ABLE T& SEIZE VEHICLES, HOMES, OR EVEN CASH BECAUSE WE LACK THAT THE WE 
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LACK THE RESOURCES TO FOR A FULLY FUNCTIONAL NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. AND AGAIN THOSE SEIZURES NORMALLY WHAT WE HAVE WE DO HAVE A SEIZURE A SEIZURE ACCOUNT AND WE USE THOSE WE USE THAT ACCOUNT GENERALLY T& BUY CAPITAL EQUIPMENT WITHOUT IMPACTING OUR OVERALL BUDGET. 
          AND DEFINITELY THE TAXPAYER POCKET. SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OKAY. SO THE ADDITION OF THAT TASK FORCE. SO IT'S ASSIGNED TO& THE ANTI-SMUGGLING GROUP WHICH CREATES A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US. AGAIN IT CAN DEDICATE TIME TO INVESTIGATE THAT NARCOTIC ACTIVITY HERE WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          ASIDE FROM PROVIDING NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT THEY OFFER OTHER SERVICES TO US. THESE SERVICES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR INTERNET RELATED CRIMES. 
          WHEN WE HAVE TO JAILBREAK A CELL PHONE FOR INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES, HSCI IS AVAILABLE TO HELP US OUT. WHEN WE COME ACROSS A COMPLEX CASE THAT INVOLVES CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, FOR EXAMPLE, HSY IS THERE TO ASSIST, AND WE HAVE THAT TASK FORCE OFFICER ALREADY ASSIGNED THERE THAT THAT CASE IS AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED TO THEM. THE AVAILABILITY OF SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAMS. AGAIN, WE NORMALLY USE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SWAT TEAM, BUT HPSCI HAS PROVIDED THAT RESOURCE FOR US AS WELL, ALONG WITH ANY EVIDENCE RESPONSE TEAMS THAT WE MAY HAVE& IF WE HAVE A LARGE CRIME SCENE, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO HELP US OUT. THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO SHARE. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME, I THINK, IS TO SHARE ALL MONEY, ALL MONEY SEIZURES, INN& WHICH OUR TASK FORCE OFFICER PARTICIPATES. FOR EXAMPLE, IF HE PARTICIPATES IN AN INVESTIGATION THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN FABENS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN HORIZON CITY GETS A PIECE OF THAT, WHAT THEY CALL DAG, WHICH IS WHICH IS A SEIZURE THAT WHATEVER CASH SEIZURES MADE, THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY GETS A PORTION OF THAT. AGAIN, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WEE& HAVE THAT INCREASED AND IMPROVED TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE IN HANDLING NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIONS AND EVEN COMPLEX INVESTIGATIONS. 
          THERE'S A CROSS DEPUTATION WITHIN OUR TASK FORCE OFFICERSS& IN THAT FEDERAL SYSTEM. AND THE& IN ANY AND ALL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO SEE ARE PRETTY MUCH OPEN TO US. NOW, THE, THE ANOTHER BIG POINT THAT I THAT I FAIL TO MENTION THERE IS, IS THE RETENTION ASPECT. SO WE GIVE YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ASSIGN DETECTIVES TO THESE ASSIGNMENTS, TO THESE AS TASK FORCE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF BREAKS THE& FROM THE FROM THE ROUTINE OF HAVING TO WORK EVERY DAY FOR THE SAME THING. NOW WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK OTHER ASSIGNMENTS. AND, AND I BELIEVE IT HELPS US WITH OUR RETENTION PERIOD. JUST HAVING A VARIETY OF ASSIGNMENTS. WE CAN WE CAN SEND THEM TO. HERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AGAIN, WE AGREE. W& AGREE TO ASSIGN A DETECTIVE TOO& SEE A TASK FORCE OFFICER UNDER UNDER THE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS, WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE SALARY. AGAIN, THIS WAS BECAUSE WE JUST PULLED THAT TASK FORCE OFFICER AND SOMEBODY ELSE JUMPED ON IT, AND THAT SOMEBODY& ELSE WAS ANTHONY PD. RIGHT. SOO& WE LOST THAT POSITION. I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO GAIN THAT POSITION BACK, WHICH IS THE GOAL IS, IS JUST TO ASSIGN SOMEBODY THERE FOR NOW UNTIL WE CAN, WE CAN WE CAN SECURE SOME FUNDING FROM FROM HHC. AND AGAIN, ALL THAT IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT WHAT HAIDA IS, IS GIVEN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE OVERTIME AGAIN ON THIS ON THIS PROPOSALL& IS COVERED BY THE BY SEA WORK VEHICLES COVERED BY SEA TRAINING IS COVERED BY THE DETECTIVE WIL& BE HOUSED AT SEA. HOWEVER,,& THEY'RE STILL SUPERVISED BY BY US BY THE HORIZON CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE DETECTIVES STILL GOING TO BE ASSIGNED CASES TOO& INVESTIGATE. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST HOUSING THEM THERE. BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO& BE SUPERVISING HIM AND GIVING THEM CASES TO INVESTIGATE AGAIN. DETECTIVE MAY BE PULLED FOR SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS. I THINK THIS PAST FRIDAY WE HAD A WE HAD AN EVENT AT EAST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL AND WE BROUGHT HIM IN TO& HELP US OUT AGAIN. THERE WILL BE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE ALL NARCOTICS ACTIVITY WITHIN HORIZON CITY JURISDICTION. AND THE COMMITMENT FOR US IS THREE YEARS. HERE'S SOME FINAL TIPS AND TAKEAWAYS. AGAIN, THE COOPERATION HAS BEEN ACTIVE INN& AN MOU SINCE 2012. AGAIN, WE RENEWED THAT MOU BECAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, OLD THE JUSTIFICATION. 
          AGAIN, WE JUST LACKED THAT NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIVE UNIT AND WE WANT THAT NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. THERE IS NO NO SOURCE FOR NARCOTIC RESOURCE SEIZURES. IT IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER AND SUPPORT SERVICES. SO HOW DOES IT BENEFIT US? AGAIN, EXPERIENCE AND TRAININGG& FOR OUR OFFICER. THE ABILITY FOR MONEY, SEIZURES, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT SERVICES AND SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AGAIN SALARY IS PAID BY BY US FOR NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET HAIDA TO FUND THAT. AND I THINK I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY TALKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE 
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ALREADY TALKING NEXT, NEXT, NEXT BUDGET CYCLE FOR HRC ITSELF OVERTIME VEHICLE TRAINING PAID BY HSC. AND IT'S A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT. AND WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOURR& APPROVAL. QUESTIONS. AND THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU. CHIEF. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. DON'T WORRY. I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH THESE ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL LIKE A WIN WIN? YEAH, I DO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WAIT, ROBERT& HAD A QUESTION, A QUESTION? OH, YES, SIR. CHIEF, THE THIS CROSS TRAINING. IS THIS A DETECTIVE RANKED POSITION? YES, SIR. 
          DETECTIVES? YES. HOW MANY DETECTIVES DO WE HAVE ON THE FORCE? WE HAVE FOUR. OKAY. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ASKING TO DO ONE. ONE, DETECTIVE. YES,,& SIR. WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SWITCHING THEM OUT WITH OTHER DETECTIVES. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT TO PROMOTE TOO& DETECTIVE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THIS CERTIFICATION. NO, SIR. NO, SIR. NO. AND THE GOAL IS, IS OBVIOUSLY TO GET THAT POSITION FULLY FUNDED, AND THEN WE GET THAT BODY BACK, OKAY? OKAY. YES, SIR. BEING THAT WE'RE WOULD BE FUNDED BY. IS IT HOMELAND SECURITY? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF RETRO PAY BEING THAT WE WOULD START USING OUR OWN MONEY. NOO& SIR. NO NO NO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL THE COUNCIL, PLEASE? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. 
          AMES. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND. YES, SIR. THAT IS& A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. ITEM 
          [17. Discussion and Action]
NUMBER 17. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS IS ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE USE OF THEIR INCINERATOR FOR THE SAFE AND PROPER DISPOSAL OF SEIZED NARCOTICS BY THE HORIZON POLICE, CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, AT A RATE OF $1.25 PER POUND. LAST ONE. CHIEF. LAST ONE. I THINK I'M GOING TO NEED AN IV..& CAN WE GET A FIREFIGHTER THERE? SO. EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. MARCO VARGAS, CHIEF OF& POLICE. SO WITH THIS ITEM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SIGNATURE ON OR AUTHORIZE OUR OUR SIGNATURE ON AN MOU WITH THE EL PASO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THEIR INCINERATOR USE. NOW, KPD HAS HAS DEFINITELY A NEED TO DESTROY CONFISCATED NARCOTICS. WE DON'T HAVE AN INCINERATOR NOW. SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES HAVE AN INCINERATOR. AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF DESTROYING THOSE CONFISCATED NARCOTICS. KPD UNDERSTANDS THAT ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATION CODE, INCINERATORS CAN ONLY BURN WASTE GENERATED ON SITE. ILLEGAL DRUGS OR ILLEGAL DRUGS OR ILLEGAL DRUGS CONFISCATED BY FEDERAL,,& STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THE CITY, HCCPD SHERIFF AND COUNTY ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENTER THIS AGREEMENT UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF GOVERNMENT CODE 791. PURPOSE. THIS AGREEMENT IS TO STATE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE KPD IS AUTHORIZED TO USE THE INCINERATOR TO DESTROY CONFISCATED NARCOTICS. THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSIBILITY JUST T& ENSURE THAT THE FACILITIES ARE SAFE FOR US TO USE. AND THEN THE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATION OF THAT INCINERATOR. THEY'RE WEIGHING THE NARCOTICS BEFORE THEY'RE THEY'RE BURNED. AND THE& THE WAY THE ASHES AFTER THE FACT. AND THEY MAINTAIN THOSEE& RECORDS FOR THREE YEARS. OUR RESPONSIBILITIES JUST TRANSPORT THOSE NARCOTICS OVER TO THE INCINERATOR, PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF TWO OFFICERS. IF THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS THATT& NEED TO BE DESTROYED, A SHERIFF HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL US, HEY,,& WE NEED MORE THAN TWO OFFICERS. AND AGAIN, THE MAIN CUSTODY OFF& THOSE NARCOTICS STAYS WITH US WITH HCCPD UNTIL THEY'RE UNTIL THEY'RE DESTROYED. CONSIDERATION AGAIN. HCCPD PAYS THE COUNTY $1.25 PER POUND FOR DESTRUCTION. THE ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO BE DESTROYED IS 48. ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN CLEARED BY THE DA'S OFFICE& AND THE CID SUPERVISOR. WE APPROXIMATE APPROXIMATE WEIGHT OF LESS THAN 5 POUNDS BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE NARCOTIC CASES ARE ARE OUR ARRESTS FOR PERSONAL USE CASES. REGARDING THE WEIGHT ITSELF, IT'S THE WEIGHT OF THE NARCOTIC AND THE CONTAINER THAT IT'S IN. WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO PAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE LIKE ANY, ANY OTHER CONTRACT, ANY OTHER CONTRACT. SHERIFF AND COUNTY MAINTAIN THE PRICE OF A DOLLAR AND 25 POUNDS FOR THAT INITIAL TERM AFTER THE FACT. AFTER THAT, THEN THEY CAN NOTIFY US 90 DAYS 
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IN ADVANCE IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO INCREASE THE PRICE ON THAT TERM. AUGUST 1ST THROUGH 25 THROUGH 26, AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR A YEAR. AND THEN THERE'S THE TERMINATION CLAUSE OF PARTY AFTER A 30 DAY NOTICE, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL. AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE WANT THAT THE INTEGRITY OF THAT EVIDENCE THAT'S BEING DESTROYED TO BE TO BE SUPERVISED BY AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY, BECAUSE WEE& CAN TAKE THE NARCOTICS AND GO OUT TO THE DESERT AND BURN THEM. 
          BUT WE WANT THAT WE WANT THAT, THAT ACCOUNTABILITY ASPECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SO I'M WONDERING DO WE ALREADY OBTAIN THESE SERVICES OR IS THE MOU JUST TO FORMALIZE THE AGREEMENT? WE DO NOT, SIR. THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST BURN, I THINK EVER. AND WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SPACE. SO. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE SO MUCH STUFF OVER TO THE NEW BUILDING. CAN CAN THE TWO OFFICERS ALSOO& INCLUDE ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE INCLUDED IN. ASKING FOR A FRIEND? ASKING? ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. BUT ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, YOU YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 5 POUNDS PER CASE WITH 48 CASES SO FAR. ISS& THAT CORRECT? NO. NO, SIR. IT'S 5 POUNDS TOTAL. 5 POUNDS. YES,,& SIR. YES, SIR. OH, YES. BUST OUT YOUR WALLET AND LET'S GET THIS PAID. CAN WE JUST GET THE. I JUST YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME THE SEVEN BUCKS, AND I THANK YOU. I& IT LIMITED TO ONLY NARCOTICS? THE REASON I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PORT OF ENTRY IS THEY BURN FRUIT, CONFISCATED GOODS, NARCOTICS. THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, SIR. HONESTLY, WE THEY THEY'VE DONE DOCUMENT BURNS BEFORE. THEY'RE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO I'M SUREE& THAT WE CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING..& SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PERFECT. 
          NO, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO FOR 48 CASES, WE'RE PAYING 60 BUCKS TO& INCINERATE $7. $7? IT'S 5 POUNDS AND LESS THAN 5 POUNDS. YES,,& SIR. LESS THAN 5 POUNDS. I WAS THINKING $1.25 PER CASE. MY BAD& SO I'M SORRY, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TALKING. I'M TRYING TOO& WRAP MY HEAD. WE'RE 5 POUNDS. THAT'S IT. IT'S PERSONAL USE, I& WHAT HE WAS SAYING. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE LITTLE BAGGIES? YES, SIR. RIGHT. SO THIS IS 5 POUNDS& SO FAR FROM WHAT, JANUARY TOO& THROUGH NOW OR 1988 TO NOW. WOW. 1988? YES, SIR. IT TELLS YOU YOU LIVE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. IT'S TRUE. LIEUTENANT VALDEZ CASE. 
          LIEUTENANT VALDEZ, I'M OVER HERE IN EVIDENCE. SO CHIEF GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS. SO I THINK I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. LIKE THAT'S IT. 
          FROM THEN I FEEL YOU. WE HAVE HAD BURNS PREVIOUS WITH THE. SO ALWAYS VERY INFORMAL. WE HAD ONE WITH EL PASO PD LIKE BACK IN 20, LIKE 2009. WE HAD WITH US. SO BACK IN LIKE 2014 OR 16 CIRCA. 
          AND THEN WE HAD ONE RIGHT BEFOR& HE GOT HERE. BUT YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW, AND GET THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND GET THAT THAT FORMAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE. OKAY. OKAY. SO YES. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. I STAND CORRECTED, SIR. YEAH. THERE'S BEEN 4 OR 5 OTHER BURNS. LIKE INFORMAL. YOU SAID THEY'RE VERY INFORMAL. 12 POUNDS SINCE 88. I HAVE INFORMAL BURNS AT MY HOUSE, TOO. JUST JOKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU SEE THOSE CAMERAS THERE? MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COULD YOU PLEASE PULLL& THE COUNCIL? SECOND WAS ALDERMAN GARCIA. COULD YOU PULL THE COUNCIL, PLEASE? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. 
          HI, AVILA. HI, AMES. HI. HI. AND MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES..& THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. 
          APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. BEFORE WEE& MOVE ON TO THE FINANCE ITEMS, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTEE& RECESS? ABSOLUTELY. SO WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE B OKAY. 853. BACK IN SESSION. OKAY. ALL. ITEM 19. THANK YOU. OKAY. WAS IT 
          [18. ANNOUNCEMENT]
18? YES. I DON'T NUMBER 18. THIS IS ON AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THIS IS A THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2526 BUDGET WILL BE CONDUCTED ON AUGUSTT& 26TH, 2025. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE WILL BE CONDUCTED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. AT 
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15001 DARLINGTON ROAD. THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET AND TAX RATE WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO REPEAT MAYBE TO REPEAT THAT FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          AS I SAID, THESE ARE THE DATES THAT WE'VE SET FOR OUR BUDGET CALENDAR. SO AS WELL ON ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, WE'LL ALSO BE ADOPTING OUR BUDGET ON THAT DATE. OKAY. OKAY. YOU WANT TOO& READ THOSE DATES OFF ONE MORE TIME? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR OFFERING ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. AUGUST 12TH, 2025. BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING. AUGUST 26TH, 2025 TAX RATE PUBLIC HEARING SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025. YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERYY& MUCH. LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 
          [19. Discussion and Action]
19, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 19, DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS ISS& ON A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO PUBLISH THE NOTICE OF INTENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE OF. 0.35368 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2526. AGAIN, COUNCIL FINANCE DIRECTOR. AS YOU RECALL FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE DID MAKE THIS PRESENTATION. OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE 0.536419. I'M SORRY, 361492. AND OUR DEBT& SERVICE IS 173876. THAT'S THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 0.535368. CORRECT. THAT'S THE NOTICE THAT& WILL BE PUBLISHED BY THE CITY OF EL PASO TAX OFFICE. THEY TAKEE& CARE OF THAT NOTICE FOR US. THEY WILL BE PUBLISHING IT, I BELIEVE, SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO OUR BUDGET HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. THANK YOU MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? DOES THIS REPRESENT A TAX HIKE OR ACTUALLY IT'S A IT'S A DEDUCTION DECREASE OF 4.29%. INCREASE DECREASE TO THE CAT RIGHT. EXACTLY. OF COURSE SINCE THE APPRAISAL VALUES GO UP WE WILL BE COLLECTING 4.20% MORE THANN& LAST YEAR. THANK YOU. I'M WONDERING SO I'M REFERENCING THIS IS FROM OUR BUDGET WORKSHO& WHICH WAS TAB TO PAGE SIX. AND IT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE LIST OF PROPERTY VALUATION AND TAX RATES. SO DOES THE VOTER APPROVE RATE. I KNOW TECHNICALLY WE'RE LOWERING THE RATE, BUT WE'RE GETTING MORE REVENUE BECAUSE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT INCREASED VALUES, RIGHT. ON AVERAGE, WILL HOMEOWNERS SEE AN INCREASE OR DECREASE DEPENDS ON THEIR APPRAISAL VALUE FOR IT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE ON THE SCREEN HERE. THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PROVIDES US WITH WHAT'S CALLED THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT'S 246,497. SO THE TAX ON THAT WILL BE 100. SORRY. THE INCREASE IN VALUE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR WAS 12,975. AND THE TAX IS GOING TO GO UP BY $23.03. 
          ON A HOME THAT'S LESS THAN 70 O& THE LOW END OF $70,000, THERE ARE TAX WILL DECREASE BY $16.79. 
          AND ON THE HIGH END, SOMEBODYY& WHO OWNS A $300,000 HOME, THEIR TAXES WILL DECREASE BY $71.99. 
          SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON THEIR VALUE OF THEIR HOME AND WHETHER THEY WENT AND FOUGHT FOR A DECREASE IN THEIR VALUE AND SO FORTH. SO AND SO I'M WONDERING OVERALL, EVERYONE'S RATE ISS& GOING TO GO DOWN JUST BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE I'M WONDERING JUST BECAUSE HERE THE RATE ITSELF IS, IS LOWER OR I MEAN THE INVERSELY RELATED. YEAH. JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS ON THE LOW END IF YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH 70,000, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT A $17 DECREASE. AND THEN FOR A $300,000 HOME YOU'LL SEE ABOUT A $72 DECREASE. SO OVERALL TAXES ARE GOING DOWN AND PROBABLYY& GOING DOWN. YES. BUT IT'S ALWAY& AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THE TAX RATE MAY GO DOWN BUT THE VALUE GOES UP. RIGHT. AND SOO& ALSO THAT AVERAGE NUMBER FOR THE AVERAGE HOME IS THAT THE AVERAGE HOME IN HORIZON CITY OR IN THE COUNTY IN HORIZON CITY OKAY. IN& YOUR TAXING JURISDICTION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WEE& GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA I. AVILA. AMES. HI. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM. I'M GLAD THERE'S 
          [20. Discussion]
NO NAYS IN THAT ONE. ITEM NUMBER 20. DISCUSSION. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE O& THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, TEXAS, APPROVING THE 2025 AD VALOREM TAX RATE AND 
          [02:55:03]
LEVY OF ASSESSED VALUATION OFF& ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES AND INTEREST, AND PROVIDING FOR THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT. 
          SEVERABILITY, SAVINGS CLAUSE, PUBLICATION AND EFFECTIVE RATE COUNCIL. BASICALLY, THIS IS THE SAME. ITEM THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW. IT SOUNDS REPETITIVE, BUT WE DO HAVE TOO& EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE ADOPTINGG& THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 5.535368. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY SO NO ACTION IS NEEDED ON THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM 
          [21. Discussion]
COUNCIL? NO. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM AGENDA ITEM 21. ITEM NUMBER 21. THIS IS ALSO A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY. THIS IS A FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, TEXAS, ENACTING THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2526. FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND 26. FUNDING MUNICIPAL PURPOSES. AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES, PROVIDING FOR REPEALER AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSES. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION WE PROVIDED LAST TIME AS WELL. WE HAVE NOT MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON OUR FUNDING, OUR OUR DEFICIT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN INCREASING OUR EXPENSES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD RECENTLY WE DID GET A PROPOSALL& FROM OUR INSURANCE CARRIER. SO THEY'RE RAISING OUR OUR INSURANCE RATES FROM WE WEREE& HOPING 6%, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A 15% INCREASE IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE. THERE'S A MINOR INCREASE IN THE DENTAL. LUCKILY, ALL THE OTHER POLICIES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ARE IN THE VISION, THE DISABILITY, LIFE INSURANCE AND SO FORTH, THOSE ARE GOING TO STAY STABLE..& THEY'RE GOING TO STAY THE SAME RATES. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TOO& PRESENT THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSION. WEE& JUST GOT THE INFORMATION YESTERDAY. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT OUR BUDGET STILL STANDS AT 166& MILLION. I'M SORRY, 17 MILLION. 110 155. REVENUES ARE SHORT OF THAT OF 16,000,005 32 TO 79. WE& WILL BE SHOWING YOU A NEXT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, A DISCUSSION ON& THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS INCREASE. SO THIS IS ONLY ON THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT CAUSED THE INCREASE IN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BUDGET. SO WE'LL START OUT ON THE TOP WHERE WE INDICATE THAT THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BUDGET WAS FOR 2025. THAT WAS 11,014,950. WEE& DID HAVE ONE AMENDMENT TO THAT BUDGET. $55,000. WE PRESENTED OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL, BUT THOSE WERE ACTUALLY JUST TRANSFERS BETWEEN ACCOUNTS OR WITHIN THE SAME DEPARTMENT. SO THAT WAS NOO& IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. SO OUR BUDGET HAS IS NOW 11,069,950. WE HAD TO ADD TO THAT TO ACCOUNTT& FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. WE HAVE A MERIT INCREASE OF 59,900 AND 615. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE. WE'RE PROJECTING A 3% INCREASE TOO& THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE QUALIFIED FOR THAT. WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. THAT'S A COST OF 169,457. THERE'S A NET INCREASE IN CAPITAL AND CAPITAL COSTS. EXCUSE ME, OF 105,178. W& DID HAVE A DECREASE IN THE ELECTION EXPENSE SINCE WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY ELECTIONS THIS YEAR. 75,621 DECREASE. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE IT SOFTWARE LICENSING AND MAINTENANCE FEESS& OF 112,926. THERE WAS ALSO A DECREASE IN THE MASS TRANSIT CONTRIBUTION FOR THIS COMING YEAR, DECREASE OF $57,400. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADDITION OF MEDICAL, DENTAL AND VISION BENEFITS FOR COUNCIL. THAT'S AA& COST OF 58,880. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN MAINTENANCE EXPENSE FOR DISPATCH EQUIPMENT OF 43,198. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A MAINTENANCE, A MONTHLY MAINTENANCE FEE THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN PARK CONTRACTED MAINTENANCE FEES AND WATER OF 105,286, MAINLY DUE TO NEW PARKS IN THE AREA. AND WE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE IN THE APPRAISAL FEES IN THE AND THE AUDIT FEES OF 25,948, AND THE NET EFFECT OF OTHER ITEMS OF 120,906. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE TOTAL INCREASE IN THE BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR TO& THIS YEAR OF 668,373, GIVING US& A BUDGET OF 11,000,007 38 322 
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323 EXCUSE ME. BE HAPPY TOO& ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, MISS GUYTON? SOO& THIS IS THE FIRST READING RIGHT AT THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING. 
          WHEN WE ADOPT OUR BUDGET, DO YOU FORESEE THE NUMBERS CHANGING? YES. ON THE MEETING ON THE 26TH, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION SHOWING YOU WHERE THE WHERE WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON DECREASING THAT DEFICIT. AND. IT SHOULD BE THE FINAL BUDGET BY THEN. IF NOT, I& MIGHT NEED A COUPLE OF TWEAKS IF YOU WILL, BUT IT SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE FINAL BUDGET ON THE MEETING ON THE 26TH. AND SO& DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK NUMBER FOR WHAT? OUR DEFICIT, FOR WHAT& OUR DEFICIT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING LIKE FOR THE WHAT? FOR WHAT OUR DEFICIT WILL BE LOOKING LIKE? IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SCREEN, IT'S THE FIVEE& 75, 77, 876 CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY. SO THAT'S THE SAME NUMBER WE WERE PRESENTED LASTT& TIME. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, FOR THE FINALIZED BUDGET WE DON'T KNOW. WE NEED TO SOMEHOW YOU HAVE TOO& NEED TO FIND THAT OR CUT IT. 
          YEAH. YEAH. WE WE'LL PROBABLYY& HAVE TO USE A PRIOR YEAR'S SURPLUS FUNDS. WE DID THAT INN& THE 2025 BUDGET OKAY. HOPEFULLY NOT FOR THE FULL AMOUNT THOUGH. YEAH. SO REAL QUICK I KNOW THAT THE THERE'S A LOT OF GASPS FOR THE 15% INCREASE WITH INSURANCES. WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPTIONS RIGHT NOW. ASIDE FROM THAT. SO THAT'S AGAIN WE GOT THAT INFORMATION LATE. SO THAT'S WHY IT COULD BE PRESENTED. BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPTIONS TO SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT NUMBE& AS WELL. SO BUT INSURANCE IS INSURANCE RIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. DO YOU HAVE A WHAT'S THAT NUMBER LOOKING LIKE FOR THE 15% DECREASE OR INCREASE. WE CALCULATED A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF $100,000 MORE THAN LAST YEARR& OKAY. THE BUDGET DOES INCLUDE RESERVES OR IS THAT A SEPARATE I'M SORRY. THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, DOES THAT INCLUDE RESERVES? FUNDS NOT SEPARATE. NO. SEPARATE. THAT'SS& HOW WE'RE DOING. GOOD ON RESERVES RIGHT. USUALLY THAT'S OUR LAST RESORT. YEAH. WE'D RATHER NOT TOUCH THAT OKAY. AND SO CONSIDERING THE ABOUT $100,000 INCREASE FOR THE HEALTH PLAN, THOSE CUTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO BE MADE, IS THAT GOING TO BE HERE AND THERE ACROSS EVERY DEPARTMENT, OR IS ONE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT GOING TO GET THE BULK OF THAT? WE PD, PD IS GOING TO GET ALL OF THE OH, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUSTT& KIDDING, CHIEF. IS ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT STUFF. THERE'S NO GO BACK. NO. SO BACK. YEAH. WEE& USUALLY WE USUALLY TRY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MANAGERS TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO WITHOUT THE CAPITAL COST ITEMS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE USUALLY THE HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE USUALLY START. WELL CAN YOU PUT OFF FOR THAT FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, FOR ONE MORE YEAR MAYBE, OR GET SOMETHING LESS EXPENSIVE AND, OR INSTEAD OF BUYING TWO, MAYBE BUY ONE OVER THE SAME ITEM. SO WE USUALLY START OUT WITH THE CAPITAL COSTS AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? W& NEED THAT STREET SWEEPER. ONE O& MY CONCERNS IS BY ADDING ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. THAT'S JUST FUTURE CONTINUED TO BE FUTURE COSTS. IF YOU'RE ALREADY IN A DEFICIT THIS YEAR, IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE A DEFICIT FOR FUTURE YEARS. SO MY CONCERN IS ABOUT HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF WITH A DEFICIT ALREADY, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE, RIGHT. GOOD QUESTION. MOVING INTO THE NEW BUILDING, THAT WOULD REQUIRE POSSIBLY MORE EMPLOYEES. CORRECT. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE NO WE DON'T, WE DON'T. YEAH. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GROW. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOVE OVER THERE THAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE TO GROW AT A RATE THAT IS. CLOSE TO THEE& SAME RATE AS WHAT THE CITY'S GROWING. CORRECT. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE EXTRA ROOFTOPS YET, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. WHAT IS COMING UP FOR THIS FUTURE, FOR THIS COMING YEAR, WHAT IS COMING UP FOR THE NEXT TWO, THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS? WHAT? AND THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH CHIEF IS HE HAS HE HAS A CALCULATION, A CERTAIN WAY OF CALCULATING THAT NUMBER. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT THESE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS..& WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED. SO WE LOOK AT THAT DOWN THE LINE. BUT RIGHT NOW MOVING INTO THAT BUILDING IT DOES. WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY MAJOR INCREASES 
          [03:05:02]
AT ALL. YEAH. YES, SIR. OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHEN YOU MENTIONED ROOFTOPS, DID YOU SEE ANY INCREASES IN ROOFTOPS OR IT'SS& THE SAME AMOUNT AS LAST YEAR? I'M SORRY, THE AMOUNT OF ROOFTOPS THAT CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS IDENTIFIED. IS IT THE SAME NUMBER AS LAST YEAR? I& IS THE SAME AMOUNT. BUT BUT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF. NOT REDUCED, BUT INCREASE THE DEDUCTIONS THATT& SCHOOL DISTRICTS CAN HAVE. RIGHT. YES. SO THEN THEREFORE THEY ARE COLLECTING LESS TAXES FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SOO& GUESS WHAT? WE HAD TO ABSORB THE COST OF THE APPRAISAL SERVICES. AND ALSO A VETERAN ONE. CORRECT. IS THAT A VETERAN ALSO. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR APPRAISAL SERVICE FEES WENT& UP THIS YEAR. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE TO NOT NOT NOT ONLY THE CITY OF HORIZON, RIGHT. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT A SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD TO ABSORB THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING. SO SOME& OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT OF OUR CONTROL. YES. OKAY. BEING THAT THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, WE'LL GO AHEAD& AND IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. SO GOING BACK TO WHAT ALDERWOMAN NAMES MENTIONED, WITH THE INCREASES FOR HIRING EMPLOYEES, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO& BE FOR TWO EMPLOYEES, A PROJECT MANAGER FOR PLANNING AND AN ACCOUNTANT TWO FOR YOURSELF. CORRECT? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THERE WERE BASICALLY FOR THE SAME PURPOSE IN IN OUR DEPARTMENT, WE ARE HANDLING A LOT OF THE REPORT NOT REPORTING, BUT OVERSIGHT OF AND OF THE REPORTING THAT PD DOES ON A LOT OF THEIR GRANTS. SO WE ARE FINDING OURSELVES IN HAVING OVEREXTENDING OURSELVES ON OUR TIME WITH THAT. NOT THAT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL DUTY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT, BUT IT'S BUT IT'S BECOMING TO WHERE IT'S AN ACTUAL PERSON THAT NEEDS NEEDED TO DO THAT. IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. SO IT'S A DUAL ROLE. AND WITH THE ADDED CAVEAT THATT& IT'S IN A SUCCESSION PLAN FOR MYSELF. SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT POSITION. BUT WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR, OR MAYBE DO IT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. AND THERE'S ALWAYS A COMPROMISE FOR THAT. SO THE PROJECT MANAGER WAS IN NEEDED FOR WELL, I WILL SAY THAT I'VE HAD PART OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS HAS BEEN I ASKED DEPARTMENT HEADS IF THERE WAS A SUCCESSION PLAN IN PLACE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND I'VE SPOKEN TO EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? WHAT ARE WE DOING? S& THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE LINE, WE NEED TO& START TRAINING PEOPLE IN PLACE NOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS HAVE OUR ALL STARS, OUR ALL STARS THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, DECIDE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS THE YEAR. WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THAT& AT THAT POINT IN TIME? SO RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO START DOING THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH& THEIR HELP, WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN KIND OFF& PUTTING A SUCCESSION PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. OKAY. ANY OTHER 
          [22. PUBLIC HEARING]
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NOPE. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 22. ITEM NUMBER 22. THI& IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ON& THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 0313. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 0313 OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, ADOPTING THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET FOR THE 2425 FISCAL YEAR TO ALLOW FORR& THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS IN THE 2025 STORM WATER AND STREETS DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSES. ANY COUNCIL FINANCE DIRECTOR. AS I SAID, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM. IF YOU'LL RECALL, IT'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, FOR THE PURPOSES OF PARKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SAMUEL AND CARROT CLUB CLARET CUP PARKS. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE WRONG ONE. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS IS $248,000, OF WHICH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS 51,890 AVAILABLE IN THEIR BUDGET. THE BUDGET AMENDMENT PROPOSES A TRANSFERR& FROM THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS FROM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT BUDGET IN& THE AMOUNT OF 78,898, OF WHICH 46,721 IS FROM THEIR OWN, AND 33,100 177 IS FROM THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS WILL ALSO REQUIRE A $116,212 TRANSFER FROM THE BUDGET LINE. ITEMS IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT BUDGET $66,212 FROM THE MOT AND 50,000& FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSED TRANSFERS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS $196,110. SO THIS IS THE LISTING OF THE ACCOUNTS 
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THAT THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT HAS DECIDED TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM. AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF I& IS FROM THEIR OWN. AND THEN THERE'S A MOUNT FOR 33,177 FROM THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET. THE BUDGE& LINE ITEMS FROM THE STREETS DEPARTMENT ARE QUITE A FEW MORE THAN THAN THE OTHER DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY'RE PROPOSING TO TRANSFER 66,000 212,000 FROM THEIR MO, AND THEN A CAPITAL ITEM OF $50,000. SO THEY THESE AMOUNTS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION. CONTRACTED PARKS. BUDGET LINE ITEM 196,110. AND A& YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'RE MOVING MONEY FROM THE STREETS BUDGET AND THE STORMWATER BUDGET AND MOVING IT TO THE CAPITAL COST. 
          THE AMOUNT THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE CAPITAL COST IS THE NET EFFECT OF ALL THOSE TRANSFERS..& SO THERE'S NO EFFECT ON THE BUDGET. ARE WE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BEING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE IS NO ONE THAT 
          [23. Discussion and Action]
WISHES TO COMMENT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, ANDD& WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 23 ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 23, THIS IS A DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION AND ACTION PORTION OF THIS SAME& ITEM AS PREVIOUSLY READ INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE PRESENTATION AGAIN OR NO? OKAY. EVERYBODY'S SEEN IT TWICE& IT'S ENOUGH. IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS AGENDA ITEM A MOTION TO& APPROVE. SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND COULD YOU. YES. 
          OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL EMINEM. WE'RE GOING. ORTEGA. ORTEGA. HI, AVILA. HI. 
          HI. GAUDIO. MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 24, THIS IS FIRST READING OF AN 
          [24. Discussion]
ORDINANCE NUMBER 0313, AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING NUMBER 03133& OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, ADOPTING THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET FOR THE 20 2425 FISCAL YEAR TO ALLOW FOR THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $55,000 FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO& THE ADMINISTRATION BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO CITY VEHICLES, AND PROVIDING FOR REPEALER AND SEVERABILITYY& CLAUSES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, AS THE. CHIEF INDICATED THERE IS A SURPLUS IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. SO THE MAYOR HAS ASKED US TOO& REALLOCATE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE VEHICLES TO BE USED BY CITY COUNCIL CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT WHEN ONCE PDD& MOVES TO THE NEXT BUILDING, OUR STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE& OVER AND PICK UP DEPOSITS OVER THERE, INSTEAD OF WALKING ACROS& THE HALL OR CROSSING THE LOT ACROSS THE LOT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES A LOT OF TRAVELING FOR THEIR MEETINGS AS WELL. THE MAYOR DOES AS WELL. OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF ALSO DO TRAVELING TO GO TO MEETINGS OR TO RUN ERRANDS AND SO FORTH.& SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM. SO THIS IS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE 2024, 25, 2025 FISCAL BUDGET. AND IT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO VEHICLES FOR THE USE OF CITY PERSONNEL AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. I WILL HAVE TO CORRECT THE ESTIMATED COST BECAUSE WE DID GET A FINAL QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE COOPERATIVESS& THAT WE'RE USING TO PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES, AND THE COST IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE $58,000. 
          WE'RE PURCHASING TWO FOUR DOOR SEDANS, ONE CAMRY AND ONE COROLLA, TOYOTA COROLLA, TOYOTA CAMRY AND TOYOTA COROLLA. THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES A TRANSFERR& FROM THE BUDGET LINE, ITEMS FRO& THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. SO AGAIN, THIS SHOULD BE CORRECTED TO, SAY, $58,000 FROM THE PUBLICC& SAFETY DEPARTMENT. SALARIES LINE ITEM TO THE VEHICLE ADMINISTRATION LINE ITEM OF $58,000. THIS. THIS SCREEN SHOWS THE INCREASE IN THE BUDGET DECREASE. EXCUSE ME, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT AND THE CAPITAL COSTS INCREASE OF 58,00& SHOULD BE CORRECTED AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT. ALL 
          [03:15:01]
RIGHT. SO THIS IS DISCUSSION ITEM. THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED ON THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. ARE THESE VEHICLES LEASED. ALSO THESE ARE PURCHASES. THESE ARE PURCHASES. YES. WE'RE PURCHASIN& THROUGH A COOPERATIVE. SO AREE& YOU CURRENTLY PAYING THESE EMPLOYEES MILEAGE TO BE ABLE TO& USE THEIR OWN VEHICLES. SO DO YOU FIND THAT THIS IN THE LONGG& RUN WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS VERSUS PAYING? YES. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'M HESITANT TO TAKE THAT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW. BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          I'M SORRY. THIS ONE WILL. FOR ONE I USE THE COLORS. WE'RE GOING TO USE THE MAYOR'S GOING TO USE THE CAR WHENEVER HE NEEDS TO USE IT. AND THEN CITY EMPLOYEES WHO ATTEND MEETINGS AND RUN ERRANDS. ON. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 25. THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER 25 AND 26 ARE GOING TO BE POSTPONED ONCE AGAIN, AND THAT THEY'RE GOING T& BE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO DO WEE& HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TOO& POSTPONE ITEM 25 AND 26. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. AMES. CORDIER. MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER 30. YES. ITEM NUMBER 30. DISCUSSION AND ACTION. THIS ISS& 
          [30. Discussion and Action]
ON A RESOLUTION TO REJECT THE RATE INCREASE PROPOSED BY THE TEXAS GAS SERVICE. MAYOR, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? IS MISS EARTH??& ARE YOU STILL AWAKE? I'M STILL WITH Y'ALL. I'M STILL HERE. I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION. SO THISS& IS THE SAME KIND OF DEAL WE DID FOR EL PASO ELECTRIC COMPANY..& BUT IT'S TEXAS GAS SERVICE. IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR REQUEST FOR A RATE INCREASE. 
          THEY HAVE FILED FOR $41.1 MILLION RATE INCREASE. AND JUST LIKE WITH THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, YOU HAVE ORIGINAL JURISDICTION. SO THEY HAVE TO BRING IT TO YOU AND YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO ACCEPT IT, POSTPONE IT AND DENY IT. WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND AT LEAST POSTPONEMENT. SO THAT GIVES THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THE GAME. AND WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE ATT& THAT TIME TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND EXAMINE THE BOOKS AND INTERVENE IN THE RATE CASE. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE GOT AN OUTREACH FROM, I THINK THEY PRONOUNCED IT VULGAR. IT'S A B O L G E R. IT'S A CITY IN EAST TEXAS THAT'S PART OF THE SERVICE AREA. AND THOSE OF YOU ALL THAT WERE AROUND THE LAST RATE CASE WITH TEXAS GAS SERVICE WILL REMEMBER THAT THEY& TOOK US OUT OF WEST TEXAS AND PULLED AND EXPANDED THE SERVICE AREA TO INCLUDE SOME EAST TEXAS CITIES. SO OUT THERE IN THE EAST TEXAS AREA, THEY HAVE FORMED A COALITION OF CITIES TO CHALLENGE TEXAS GAS SERVICE AND ACTUALLY TO INTERVENE IN THE LAWSUIT. AND THEY HAVE A LAWYER THAT IS OUT OF OR A LAW FIRM THAT'S OUT OF SAN ANTONIO THAT ARE SPECIALISTS IN UTILITY RATE CASES, WHO HAS AGREED TO REPRESENT ALL OF THESE SMALLER COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE ALL SMALLER TOWNS AS AS ONE I THE BIG QUESTION I HAD FOR HIM AND I, WHEN I CALLED AND SPOKE TOO& HIM, WAS WHETHER OR NOT HE FELT LIKE THERE WAS A POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE CITIES. AND HE SAID NO, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS IMPOSE THE SAME RATE INCREASE ON ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THIS EXPANDED RATE AREA. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS TO LOOK REALLY HARD AT THE EXPANSION, FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE SERVICE AREA. 
          AND THE GOOD NEWS FROM THIS IS, I MEAN, IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD. WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET TO HAVE THIS LAWYER REPRESENT THIS TOWN OF HORIZON CITY. IT'LL BE SPLIT AMONGST ALL OF THE CITIES THAT ARE IN THE COALITION, BUT IT'S GOING TO GET REIMBURSED BY TEXAS GAS SERVICE. 
          SO IN THIS RESOLUTION, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME RECITALS IN THERE THAT AUTHORIZE 
          [03:20:04]
THE IT'S CALLED THE HERRERA LAW FIRM TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF HORIZON CITY. AND THAT RATE CASE, IF YOU ALL DON'T WANT TOO& DO THAT AND YOU WANT TO JUST DO& WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF LITERALLY COATTAIL ON CITY OF EL PASO AND THE BIGGER RATEPAYERS IN THE AREA, THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION FOR YOU. BUT I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT THAT YOU DENY THE INCREASE AND MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO ASK, IF YOU ASK ME ABOUT IT, I THINK THE CITY MIGHT REALLY WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO JOIN THE COALITION BECAUSE WE'LL GET MUCH MORE INFORMATION DIRECTED AT US BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING US. THEY REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE SMALL WEST TEXAS TOWNS. THEY REACHED OUT TO ANTHONY, TO SAN ELIZARIO, TO CLINT, TO EVERYBODY IN THE SMALL BENTON, EVERYBODY IN THE AREA, AND THE ONES THAT I'M AWARE OF HAVE ALL AGREED TO JOIN THE COALITION. SO YOU ALL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I'LL JUST AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO PULL OUT THOSE PROVISIONS ABOUT THE LAW FIRM REPRESENTING US AND JUST DO WHAT WE NORMALLY DO AND JUST KIND OF MONITOR AND KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I'M READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MISS FIRTH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL YOU RECOMMEND WE REJECT THE JUSTT& LIKE IT'S WRITTEN. THE INCREASE& IS TO DENY THE DENY THE RATE INCREASE. AND THEN YOU ALL CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH REGARD TO ACTUALLY JOINING THE COALITION. AND I'LL, I'LL AMEND I'LL EITHER AMEND IT OR THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT I PUT BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR, FOR HIM TO& REPRESENT YOU. OKAY. AND THE RATE CASE. IS FOR. DID YOU SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO& PAY FOR THIS FIRM TO REPRESENT US. WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY AND BE AND BE REIMBURSED. THEY'LL JUST BUILD IT INTO THE RATE CASE. SO ULTIMATELY, I MEAN THAT WHICH THE DOUBLE EDGE OF THAT IS, IT GOES INTO THE COST OF THE RATE CASE. BUT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THE SMALL CITIES THAT ARE JOINING INTO ONE COALITION,& IT'S A PRETTY EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING IT AND SHARING OF COSTS. SO AND HE WILL BE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE TWO ISSUES, TWO ISSUES ABOUT HOW EXPANDING THE SERVICE AREA COULD AFFECT THE CITIES. AND THEN HOW THE RATE INCREASES ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTING THOSE. AND THEY REALLY GO INTO THE BIGGER CITIES, WILL HIRE EXPERTS AND DO ANALYSIS OF& HOW THEY'RE DOING COST SHARING, ETC. BUT WE'LL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THERE FOR THE SMALLER COMMUNITY AS WELL. SOO& WHILE THIS IS GETTING RESOLVED IN THE COURTS, WHAT HAPPENS DURING THAT INTERIM? THE RATES STAY THE SAME. SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY WE DENY IT UNTIL UNTIL THE RATE CASE IS RESOLVED. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY AS TO WHETHER WE WANT THIS LAW FIRM TO REPRESENT US OR NOT& OR IS THERE TIME FOR US TO MULL ON IT A LITTLE BIT? WELL, WITH THE WHAT WE NEED BEFORE AUGUSTT& THE 19TH IS A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO DENY IT. SO THAT AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, OR LEARN MORE ABOUT THE LAW FIRM OR ETC, YOU CAN DELAY THAT LATER BECAUSE I'M SURE HEE& WOULD TAKE US ON AT A LATER DATE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEE& MORE TIME ON. OKAY. YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE ALWAYS CURTAILED ON EL PASO'S. 
          REPRESENTATION, BUT I GUESS WEE& CAN STILL DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH, I HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LAWYER THAT REPRESENTS& THE CITY OF EL PASO. SO I CALL HIM AND ASK HIM WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION. AND WHEN HE FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING OR IT'S HELPFUL TO THE GROUP, HE WILL CALL ME UP AND LET ME KNOW. BUT THIS WILL ACTUALLY PUT US IN THE CASE AS AN INTERVENOR. WE'LL ACTUALLY BE THERE. AND THE REASON THE LAWYER IS WILLING TO DO IT BECAUSE HE SAYS THERE'S STRENGTH IN THE NUMBERS. SO IF THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES ARE ALL SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE, IT HAS MORE INFLUENCE ON. AND THIS GOES TOO& THE RAILROAD COMMISSION. THIS IS NOT THE PUBLIC UTILITY. THE BOARD, THIS IS RAILROAD COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S GAS. SO& IT'S A DIFFERENT COMMISSION. AND HE DOES THINK THAT IT DOES HAVE VALUE FOR THERE TO BE THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES, MORE RURAL COMMUNITIES. SPEAKING IN ONE VOICE. MISS EARTH, OF COURSE WE WOULD ALWAYS. RECOMMEND A DECLINE. BUT DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE AS FAR AS WHEN THISS& 
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WOULD BE RESOLVED? YEAH, WE NEED TO DO IT BY THE 19TH BECAUSE IF& WE DON'T DO IT BY THE NINTH, IF& WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION BY THE 19TH, THEORETICALLY THE UTILITY COULD INCREASE THE RATES IN HORIZON AND SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE ORIGINAL JURISDICTION. YOU YOU WAIVED IT OR YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T DENY IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE EITHER SAY SUSPEND OR DENY THE RATES LAWYER IS SAYING IT'S BETTER FOR US TO OUTRIGHT USE THE WORD DENY THAN SUSPEND, BECAUSE THEN FOR SUSPENDING IT,& IT MAKES US HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER ACTION AT A LATER DATE. WHEN IT STARTS ANOTHER TIMELINE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ACT ON IT AGAIN. SO A DENIAL SPEAKS MORE LOUDLY WITH WITH REGARD TO IT. 
          AND IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION, IT SAYS THEY HAVEN'T MADE THEIR CASE THAT WE& DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION YET TO KNOW IF THAT'S A FAIR RATE INCREASE, ETC. SO WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO DENY IT. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND AS MAYOR HAS MENTIONED THAT HISTORICALLY WE HAVE ALWAYS DENIED THIS, THIS RATE. SO MISS FIRTH, YES, COMMUNITIES ARE ARE LOOKING TOO& JOIN ON THIS EFFORT. I DON'T THINK SHE CAN HEAR YOU. HOW HOW MANY HOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE JOINED IN THIS COALITION? SO THERE WERE. AND THE BACKUP. DO YOU HAVE THE BACKUP THERE? I WANT TO SAY THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT OF THEM ALREADY. AND THEN I KNOW IN THE AREA SAN ELIZARIO HAS ALREADY SAID YES. ANTHONY HAS SAID YES. CLINT HASN'T MET YET. THEY'RE GOING TO MEET ON MONDAY, BUT I'M EXPECTING THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SAY YES,,& BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR AND HE HE WAS ASKING ME QUESTIONS, SO IT SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO IN OUR IN THE AREA HERE, ITT& LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY IS JOINING THE COALITION. THANK YOU, MISS FIRTH. OKAY, I'LL MOVE TOO& APPROVE ITEM 30 TO DENY THE RATE INCREASE PROPOSED BY TEXAS GAS SERVICE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO GIVE US THE OPTION& TO JOIN THE COALITION AT A LATER DATE. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO. SO MISS DENY. YES. TO USE THE WORD THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATE. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATE IF YOU WANT. WELL YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU WANT TO JUST YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO& DENY THE RATE INCREASE BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO JOIN THE COALITION. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTION AT A LATER DATE TOO& JOIN THE COALITION. SEE YOU. CAN YOU CAN YOU HAVE THAT OPTION IF YOU WANT? SO WHAT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO TAKE THEM AS TWO SEPARATE. CAN WE TAKE THEM AS TWO SEPARATE? YES. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY THE TAX RATE. 
          OKAY. SO I'LL TAKE THAT AS ONE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT AND WE'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY. BEFORE WE GO ON, MISS FIRTH, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR US? GOING WITH ALDERMAN AVILA'S MOTION IS THAT IN THE CITY'S BEST STRATEGIC INTEREST TO GO WITH OR TO HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO US, I THINK BASED ON OUR COUNCIL'S RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THE EL PASO TEAM, THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THEM, DENY THE RATE HIKE AND GO& WITH EL PASO. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE TO NOT NOT JOIN THE RIGHT TO NOT AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THEY EXPECT YOU TOO& DENY IT. THERE'S A LOT OF THE RATE CASE NEVER ENDS UP BEING THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT THEY FILE FOR, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEGOTIATING THAT GOES ON. THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMINATION OF HOW THEY'VE PASSED COSTS ON TOO& US, TO THE RATEPAYERS, THE WAY THEY DIVIDE. I MEAN, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ACCOUNTING THAT GET& DONE WITH RATE CASES. SO YES, I WOULD ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT YOU THAT YOU DENY IT FROM THE FIRST GET GO BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE CITY, THE CITIZENS OF HORIZON CITY PAYING A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE YOU ACCEPTED IT. AND THE REST OF THE STATE, THEY, THE REST OF THE RATEPAYERS WERE DENYING IT AND THEN END UP GETTING A LOWER RATE. SO IT JUS& IT PUTS YOU IN A BETTER POSITION FOR SURE TO DENY IT BEFORE THE DEADLINE, WHICH IS THE 19TH OFF& THE MONTH. AND THEN THE ISSUE OF THE LAW FIRM ASIDE, WE CAN WEE& CAN DEAL WITH THAT SEPARATELY. SO I THINK THE QUESTION THERE WITH THE LAW FIRM IS WHETHER OR NOT WE DECIDE TO GO WITH A LAW FIRM OR TO JUST WAIT AND FIND 
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OUT WHAT EL PASO ELECTRIC IS. I'M SORRY. THE CITY OF EL PASO IS DOING CORRECT. SO THE CITY OF EL PASO HAS ALREADY VOTED TOO& DENY THE RATE INCREASE. BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LAWYERS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TEAM. AND THEY THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD THEIR OWN TEAM. SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR LAWYERS THAT ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR INTERESTS. THE, THE, THE OUR ISSUE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCKING US ALL INTO THE THEY KEEP EXPANDING THE SERVICE AREA AND THEY CLAIM THAT IT'S MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE MORE. CUSTOMERS TO SPREAD THE COST AROUND. BUT IF IT'S IF, IF A LOT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS BEING DONE IN EAST TEXAS OR THEY'RE NOT NOW THEY'RE WANTING TO EXPAND DOWN INTO THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY AS WELL. SO THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THOSE AREAS THA& DON'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT FAR WEST TEXAS. THEN YOU'RE HELPING TO SUBSIDIZE OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE. SO THAT'S THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THAT WE ARGUED AGAINST THE LAST TIME. BUT THEY DIDN'T PREVAIL. SO WE GOT PULLED INTO THIS EAST TEXAS GROUP. BUT LIKE& I SAID, THE EAST TEXAS GROUP HAS BEEN ORGANIZED FOR A WHILE LONGER. AND SO THEY HAVE HAD THIS COALITION IN PLACE. AND THEN THEY REACHED OUT TO EACH ONE OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT IS& IN THE COALITION SAYING, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING U& IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST THE RATE INCREASE. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. SO, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DENY AS ONE MOTION. AND THE SECOND WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND JOIN IN WITH, WITH A LAW FIRM. WITH THIS COALITION, THE COST IS GOING TO& BE SHARED ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL. THE COST. DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME. DO YOU HAVE& ANY IDEA OF WHAT THE WHAT POTENTIAL COST COULD BE FOR THE CITY THAT THE IMPACT COULD BE T& THE CITY? YEAH, WELL, IT WON'T BE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD IT INTO THE RATE CASE. SO WHATEVER IT ENDSS& UP COSTING, YOU WON'T EVER HAVE TO ADD A POCKET FOR IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO YEAH THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL JUST WHATEVER. AND IT KIND OF IT DEPENDS. I MEAN SOMETIMES THEY RATE THESE RATE CASES GET RESOLVED VERY QUICKLY IF THERE AND THEN SOMETIMES I MEAN WE'VE SEEN THEM DRAG ON FOR YEARS BEFORE THE BEFORE IT'S RESOLVED. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW CONTENTIOUS IT GETS. OKAY. WITH THE WITH THE BIG USERS. GOT IT. SO THAT WOULD BE THOSE WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO TAKE THEM AS TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS. 
          THE FIRST WOULD BE APPROVAL OR DENIAL. AND THEN THE SECONDD& WOULD BE TO JOIN OR NOT TO JOIN. 
          AND THOSE WOULD BE I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, MISS FIRTH, DO YOU KNOW IF THE IF EL PASO COUNTY IS ALSO BEING REPRESENTED BY THE SAME FIRM AS THE CITY OF EL PASO, OR ARE THEY PART OF THE EAST TEXAS? I THINK THEY HAVE THEIR OWN REPRESENTATION. I THINK I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER,,& BUT I THINK EL PASO COUNTY HIRE& SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT FOR THEM. I'M ALMOST SURE THAT SO WHEN THE BIG PLAYERS IN RATE CASES, IT'LL BE LIKE CITY OF EL PASO, THE COUNTY OF EL PASO, THE FORT BLISS, IT GETS, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY'RE BIG, BIG INDUSTRY, BIG GAS USERS WIL& HAVE THEIR OWN. SO WHEN YOU GO TO THOSE HEARINGS AND LISTEN OR PARTICIPATE, SOMETIMES I MONITOR THEM AND LISTEN. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 25, 30 LAWYERS IN THE ROOM, EACH LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR DIFFERENT INTERESTS. AND I WANT, I WANT TO I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU TOMORROW IF THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN. I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THEY DO. IT'S BECAUSE I'M TRYING TOO& DIFFERENTIATE WHY EL PASO COUNTY WANTS TO GO WITH ONE PARTICULAR FIRM TO REPRESENT THEM IN THIS CASE, AND THE CITY OF EL PASO WANTS TO DO ANOTHER. WHY NOT BE REPRESENTED BY THE SAME FIRM? I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I MEAN, DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. YEAH I DON'T KNOW I'LL FIND OUT I'LL FIND OUT IF THAT'S THE CASE. PRETTY SURE THEY HAVE SEPARATE COUNSEL. AND SOMETIMES THERE'S DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAT THAT COME INTO PLAY. LIKE WITH JUST IF YOU JUST DEPEND ON WHICH UTILITY IT IS AND WHO IS USING WHAT KIND OF ENERGY FOR WHAT PURPOSE. AND THEN SOMETIMES THE CITY WITH, BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS CONCERNED ABOUT INDUSTRY AND THROWS IN WITH THEM FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC THAT TAKES PLACE. OKAY. BUT I'LL FIND OUT I CAN FIND OUT FAIRLY QUICKLY TOMORROW IF, IF THERE'S A SEPARATE COUNSEL FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. OKAY. SO FOR THAT SECOND MOTION, IS IT 
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TO JOIN THE CITY OF EL PASO? NO. OR IT'S TO JOIN A LAW FIRM? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DENY AS ONE MOTION. AND THEN THE SECOND MOTION WOULD BE TO JOIN IN WITH THE COALITION REPRESENTED BY LAW FIRM. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS UP TOO& COUNSEL. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO COST FOR US TO GO JOIN IN ON THIS COALITION. 
          RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING THAT THERE'S NO COST FOR THE COALITION. IS THERE A COST THAT WE GO IN WE COATTAIL WITH EL PASO. WELL EL PASO WE WON'T BEE& REPRESENTED BY EL PASO. THEY'RE NOT ASKING. EL PASO HAS NEVER ASKED. I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE COATTAIL, WE'RE JUST MAKING THAT DECISION TOO& FIND OUT WHAT EL PASO IS DOING AND THEN WE WILL MAKE THE DECISION. SO THIS WOULD BE EITHER DENIED OR TABLED AND IN ANTICIPATION TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH EL PASO, THATT& THAT IS THE DECISION THAT'S BEFORE US. BUT NOW WE HAVE AN OPTION WHERE THIS COALITION HAS COME TOGETHER THIS YEAR THROUGH AN ADOLESCENT TO BE REPRESENTED BY. YES. OKAY. YEAH. YOU'LLL& ACTUALLY BE AN INTERVENOR IN THE LAWSUIT. SO WE WILL GET MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN WE USUALLY GET. YES. OKAY. WE'RE JUST IN YEARS PAST WE'VE JUST BEEN KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. THIS TIME, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE. 
          THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME. YES. YES, SIR. SO SINCE WE'LL BE TAKING DIFFERENT MOTIONS, I'LL REREAD THE FIRST MOTION. JUST JUST TO CLARIFY. SO I'LL MOVE T& APPROVE ITEM 30 TO DENY THE RATE INCREASE PROPOSED BY TEXAS GAS SERVICE. SECOND, SO WE HAD MATT& AND I HAVE A SECOND. YES. AND COUNSEL OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BOTH COUNSE& PLEASE. ORTEGA. ORTEGA A. AVILA. 
          A AIMS A AND MENDOZA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES OKAY. THE SECOND MOTION. SECOND MOTION IS TO JOI& THE COALITION. OKAY. GOT IT. REPRESENTED BY REPRESENTED BY THE LAW FIRM. EDITOR. HERRERA. 
          HERRERA. LAW FIRM AND I SECONDD& THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AVILA AND ORTEGA. OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASEE& PULL THE COUNCIL? ORTEGA. ORTEGA. AVILA. HI. HI. HI. AND. 
          MENDOZA. HI. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. THANK YOU, MISS FIRTH. GO TO BED. 
          BEING THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN, AND WE ARE
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