[1. CALL TO ORDER; PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE; ESTABLISHMENT OF QUORUM:]
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. MY NAME IS DAVID REESE. I AM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SECRETARY. WE DO MEET A QUORUM. IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START STANDING UP FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO& THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, BEFORE WE START WITH THE COMMISSIONERS EXCUSED, I JUST WANT TO WELCOME OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, RAFAEL PADILLA AND JENNIFER BARKER..& THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT& ARE MISSING. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE. MOTION TO EXCUSE ABSENT COMMISSIONERS. I SECONDD& THE MOTION. CHARLIE. SO I'MM& GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL THE QUORUM. JOLLY I PADILLA I CORRECT I AND PARK OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. ITEM
[3. OPEN FORUM]
THREE OPEN FORUM. WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THIS.CHIEF PLANNER RUBIO. MR. REESE, MEMBERS OF THE HORIZON PLANNING& AND ZONING COMMISSION I KNOWW& MANY OF YOU, BUT THOSE OF YOU WHOM I HAVE NOT HAD THE PLEASUR& OF MEETING. MY NAME IS ROBERT AVILA, ALDERMAN SEAT. FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS APPROACHED BY A FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN, AND I WAS ASKED IF I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR COMMUNITY BY BEING A MEMBER OF THE PNC. HE INFORMED ME THAT IT& WOULD BE A VOLUNTEER POSITION AND THAT WE WOULD MEET ONCE A MONTH. I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAV& ALSO HEARD A SIMILAR VERSION OF THAT PITCH THAT'S OVER HERE. AT THAT TIME, I KNEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND VERY LITTLE ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING. I FOUND THE FIRST FEW MEETINGS A BIT INTIMIDATING, BUT I SOON FOUND MY FOOTING. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I ALSO REALIZED THAT WHEN I SAT RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU ALL WHERE YOU ALL ARE, ALL ARE SEATED, I HAD A DUTY TO LISTEN, LEARN, AND KEEP IN MIND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, AND THE DEVELOPERS. SOMETIMES TRYING TO MAKE THE THREE MESH TOGETHER CAN BE CHALLENGING. SIX YEARS LATER, I WAS NOMINATED AND ELECTED TOO& CHAIR THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
THANKFULLY, WITH THE SUPPORT OF STAFF, I WAS ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO THE NEW ROLE. TODAY, I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING WITHOUT FIRST TAKING A MOMENT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING ALONGSIDE, AND TO CONGRATULATE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ABOUT TO BE SEATED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HAVE AND HAVE BEEN IN PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE, I WANT TOO& EXPRESS MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE FOR YOUR DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SERVICE AS BOARD MEMBERS. YOUR COMMITMENT, EXPERTISE, AND PASSION HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE TO& THE SMART AND SUCCESSFUL GROWTH OF OUR CITY. YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE LEFT A LASTING IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. DURING OUR TENURE, THE PNC COMMISSION HAS WORKED ON PROJECTS SUCH AS RANCHO DE CIERTO BAY UNITS 122& THROUGH 21, WHICH WILL BRING APPROXIMATELY 977 NEW HOMES. THE VALENCIA DEVELOPMENT, A NEW MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY IN THE EAST PART OF HORIZON WITH OVER 2400 HOMES WITH TRAILS, SCENIC PARKS AND OUTDOOR AMENITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR HEALTHY ACTIVITIES, AND OUR WORK IN HELPING CHANGE FROM THE EUCLIDEAN ZONING REQUIREMENTS T& A FORM BASED ZONING FOR THE PROPOSED TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THE TOD, WHICH, IF SUCCESSFUL, WILL PROVIDE HORIZON CITY WITH A VIBRANT CENTER WHICH WILL INCORPORATE HOUSING, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH INTO WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. PROXIMITY OFF& PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THESE ARE JUST BUT A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE IMPORTANT WORK. WE CAN BE PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A SMALL BUT IMPORTANT PART OF. I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION THE PLANNING STAFF, WHICH HAVE DEDICATED COUNTLESS HOURS, MEETINGS AND RESEARCH, A DEDICATED STAFF THAT HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY, TIRELESSLY DESIGNING
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AND REGULATING LAND USE FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND GREEN SPACES.CREATING RULES AND GUIDELINES FOR CITY ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT. ENSURING THAT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS ARE NOT ONLY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ZONING STANDARDS, BUT ARE ALSO DEDICATING GREEN SPACE OR FUNDS TO HELP MAINTAIN OUR ESTABLISHED PARKS, AND PREPARING AGENDAS AND PRESENTATIONS TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. CHIEF PLANNER RUBIO, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUR COMMISSION AND ME TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTRICACIES THAT ENTAIL A NEW DEVELOPMENT. I RECOGNIZE THAT THROUGH YOUR INSTRUCTION AND LEADERSHIP, WE HAVE ONLY SCRATCHED THE SURFACE OF THE VAST KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE.
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. YOUR THOUGHTFUL INSIGHTS AND UNWAVERING SUPPORT HAVE NOT ONLY GUIDED US THROUGH CHALLENGES, BUT HAVE ALSO INSPIRED THOSE AROUND YOU. MR. REESE, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING AVAILABLE TOO& HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE DATA AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ALONGSIDE YOU. AS I STEP AWAY FROM MY ROLE AS A CHAIR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR LEGACY WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR CITY'S FUTURE. I'M GETTING CHOKED UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING TO OUR TOWN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TOO& SEEING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THIS BOARD WILL MAKE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. WE WANT TOO& THANK MR. AVILA FOR ALL THE DEDICATION AND SUPPORT HE GAVE TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR A, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A
[4. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICEE& CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONIN& COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU THE RULES AS FAR AS THE ELECTION. S& THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT WE'LL TAKE NOMINATIONS. AND AFTER THOSE NOMINATIONS, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST NOMINATION THAT WE GET. AND THEN IF THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND THEN A SECOND AND THAT WILL BE IT. BUT IF THERE ISN'T AND WE'LL KEEP GOING THROUGH THE NOMINATIONN& LIST IF THERE IS A NOMINATION LIST. SO WITH THAT I NOMINATE SAMANTHA FOR CHAIRMAN. ANY OTHER I SECOND. SO THEN. SO THENN& YOU'RE THE CHAIR. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. SO THEN NOW FOR THE VICE CHAIR I NOMINATE MR. RODRIGO. IS THERE A MOTION SECONDER. SECOND. MR. PARKER, REMEMBER THIS. SO I'LL LET THE CHAIR GO AHEAD AND THEN TAKE THE, THE COMMISSION AND START THE, THE REST OF THE AGENDA. BUT BEFORE THAT I THINK WE HAVE A REQUEST AS FAR AS MOVING AN ITEM TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. SO STAFF REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM FOUR E TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. SO ITEM FOUR E WHICH IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSION RECOMMENDATION, AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A ZONINGG& CHANGE WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, TEXAS. REZONING 66.86 ACRES LOTS ONE THROUGH 11. BLOCKS SEVEN AND EIGHT. RISING COUNTRY CLUB STATES. UNIT ONE FROM R4 TO R2 TO PONDING AREA LOTS ONE THROUGH 23, BLOCKS EIGHT THROUGH TEN AND BLOCK NINE. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB STATES UNIT ONE FROM R4 TO T THREE LOTS ONE THROUGH 27. BLOCKS FOUR, FIVE, SIX, 11 THROUGH 14 AND BLOCK 12. CHRIST& AND COUNTRY CLUB STATE UNIT ONE FROM R4 TO T4, LOTS ONE THROUGH 30, BLOCKS ONE THROUGH THREE AND BLOCKS 17 THROUGH 22. PRICING COUNTRY CLUB STATE UNIT ONE, TWO AND THREE FROM R4 TO C1 COMMERCIAL TO A T5. LOTS ONE THROUGH TEN. BLOCK 16. HORIZON COUNTRY CLUB STATE UNIT TWO FROM R4 TO BE REZONE TO CIVIC AUTHORIZING THE NOTATION OF THE CHANGE ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN, PROVIDING FOR THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT REPEALER, SEVERABILITY AND PROPER NOTICE AND HEARING AND CITY WILL BE PRESENT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR.COMMISSIONERS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CARLOS GAINER. I'M WITH THE CITY. I KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS BODY AND ALSO CITY COUNCIL OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND SEVERAL THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS BACK. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS BACK IN MARCH. AND I KNOWW& THERE'S SOME NEW MEMBERS OF THE OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE NOW ONN& THE PNC. AND SO I'M GOING TOO& WALK YOU THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF THE ITEM, OBVIOUSLY, IS TOO& REZONE THE PARCELS THAT ARE
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ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS BUILDING. BUT I'M GOING TO JUST STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, JUST IN CASE YOU HAVE AREN'T ALL THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT. BUT AT ANY TIME, PLEASE STOP ME IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. SO WITH THAT, PART OF& THE INTRODUCTION INCLUDES, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS ITEM, THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY, CITY OF HORIZON AND THE REPRESENTATIVEE& IS ABLE CITY. OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE TOWNSHIPP& NOW FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH DIFFERENT ITEMS REGARDING THE TOD, AND I'LL WALK YOUU& THROUGH SOME OF WHAT THOSE ARE AS WELL. PART OF THE PROJECT SCOPE AND SCHEDULE. SO THIS IS, I BELIEVE, THE THIRD PROJECT THAT OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE WITH THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY. I'M GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE FORM BASED CODE PROJECT. SO THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY INCLUDES TWO TWO ITEMS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE FORM BASED CODE AND THEN THE REZONING PROJECT. I KNOW WE'RE HERE TOO& TALK ABOUT THE REZONING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AGAIN TOO& CONTEXTUALIZE THE FIRST ITEM. S& IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOXES IN BLUE, THIS PROJECT INCLUDED CREATING WHAT IS CALLED A FORM BASED CODE. AND SO AS PART OF YOUR MUNICIPAL CODE AND AS PART& OF YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS CURRENTLY OR OR PRIOR TO LAST WEEK, THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY DID NOT HAVE WHAT WE CALL FORMM& BASED CODES. AND I'M GOING TOO& WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? TYPICALLY, AS MR. ALDERMAN MENTIONED, YOUR YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS ARE WHAT YOU CALL EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICTS. RIGHT. AND THEY ARE EUCLIDEAN AND THAT THEY'RE BASED IN THE TOWN OF EUCLID VERSUS AMBLER REALTY. NOT TO GET TOO TECHNICAL, BUT THAT IS WHERE ZONING REGULATIONS COME FROM, FOR THE MOST PART ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO MANY, MANY OF THE MANY OF THE REASONS WHY, IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH EL PASO WEST, EL PASO, FAR EAST, EL PASO,,& HORIZON, TUCSON, ALBUQUERQUE, SAN ANTONIO, PHOENIX, LAS VEGAS THE REASON THAT MANY COMMUNITIES LOOK START TO LOOK THE SAME IS BECAUSE ALL THE CITIES ARE ARE USING WHAT WE CALL EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICTS. AND AGAIN, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THAT MEANS. RIGHT. SO THE FIRST PART OF OUR SCOPE WAS TO CREATE A FORM BASED CODE. AND SO THAT PROJECT BEGAN IN NOVEMBER. WEE& MET WITH STAFF AND DRAFTED THE CODE THROUGH THE WINTER OF 2024, 2025 THROUGH THE SPRING. WE MET WITH STAFF SEVERAL TIMES TOO& REVIEW THE DRAFT, EDIT THE DRAFT, AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED BACK IN MARCH, THIS BODY MADE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE FORMM& BASED CODE OR TO RATHER GIVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT RECOMMENDATION WENT TO CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE WHAT YOU CALL THE FORM BASED CODE FOR THE TOWN OF HORIZON. THE SECOND PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE, WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, INCLUDES THE REZONING OF OVER 100 PARCELS FROM TYPICALLY R2 AND R4 TO THIS NEW FORM BASED CODE. AND SO THAT PARTICULAR SCOPE STARTED BACK IN APRIL. WE DID SOME FIELD WORK, SOME SURVEY WORK FROM A CIVIL ENGINEERING. WE DID THE PARCEL RESEARCH, AND THEN THROUGH JUNE& AND JULY, WE WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING TOMORROW, WHICH VICTORIA FROM OUR STAFF WILL MENTION IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT SECOND BOX, THE PAD MEETING WHICH IS HAPPENING TODAY. AND THEN THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TOO& CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 8TH FOR FINAL ADOPTION. AND THEN WE WILL WRAP UP THE PROJECT, AT LEAST FROM OUR, OUR THE OUR SCOPE OF WORK ENDS IN AUGUST. THAT DOESS& NOT MEAN THAT YOUR TOD IS DONEE& RIGHT. THERE'S STILL MANY, MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AND MANY, MANY YEARS OF WORK AHEAD OF US. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU ALL AND THE TOWN LEADERSHIP AND THE STAFF HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO PERHAPS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'RE HEARING ABOUT THIS.SO AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST MAKEE& SURE THAT I SPEND SOME TIME PUTTING THE PROJECT INTO CONTEXT. SO THE PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED BACK IN 2019, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, OR MAY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, WENT THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. MANY CITIES ACROSS TEXAS, MANY CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, GOO& THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I BELIEVE THAT PROCESS WAS LED BY PARKK& HILL, SMITH, AND COOPER, A PRETTY GOOD ENGINEERING FIRM OUT OF EL PASO AND OTHER PARTS OF TEXAS. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES IS THAT IT SETS YOUR FOUNDATION, YOUR VISION, YOUR DREAMS, YOUR HOPES& YOUR ASPIRATIONS FOR THE NEXT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS. IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE THE HORIZON WAS 2030.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED HORIZON 2030, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN THIS THIS WHOLE SLIDE IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROMM& YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT FOR, JUST FOR AGAIN TO ADD TO CONTEXT TO WHAT WE'RE HERE. SO BEGINNING IN 2019, CITIZENS AND LEADERS OF
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HORIZON CITY INITIATED A PROCESS TO PROACTIVELY DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THEIR COMMUNITY. THE TOWN LEADERSHIP RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR A DELIBERATE ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT CONDITIONS AND A THOUGHTFUL VISION FOR TOMORROW. ONE OF ITS GOALS WAS TO, OR IS TO PROMOTE AND FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TRANSIT SUPPORTED TOWN CENTER. AND THEN AGAIN, THE BOX ON THE ON THE RIGHT JUST GIVES YOU THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAIN IS A VISION AND FRAMEWORK FOR THE FUTURE. IT INCLUDES LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. AND AGAIN THE ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT PROCESS IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR TOWN CENTER IN THE TOD, WHICH IS THE LAND THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO PUT INTO CONTEXT A LITTLE BIT OF WHY THAT LAND IS HAS BEEN. IT'S A DONUT HOLE AND IT'S BEEN VACANT FORR& MANY, MANY YEARS. THE PARCEL OR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS FRAGMENTED. THAT MEANS THAT IT WAS PLATTED BACK IN THE 1970S..& AND SOMEBODY, SOME DEVELOPERS SOLD OFF THE LOTS TOO& INDIVIDUALS, BUT THEN NEVER MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT. SO, AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH, RIGHT THERE IS SOMEBODY BRINGS A PLAT. THE PLAT LOOKS AT HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT STREETS, SIDEWALKS, CURBS, GUTTERS, PONDS, LOT SIZES. AND SO THEN WHEN THE PLAT COMES IN, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE PLAT IS APPROVED.THE DEVELOPER MOVES FORWARD WIT& THE DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT? AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OVER THE PAST MOST RECENT HISTORY OF HORIZON. AND AGAIN, MANY PARTS OF EL PASO I OR OUR STAFF OR OUR OUR COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TELL YOU WHY IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD. WE JUST KNOW THAT ITT& THAT IT JUST IT'S BEEN THERE. MAYBE STAFF HAS SOME INFORMATION BUT YOU KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THIS, OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IS TO START TO REDEVELOPP& THESE PARCELS. RIGHT. IF THEE& CITY OF HORIZON CHOSE TO DO NOTHING, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR OF YOUR TOWN, 60 ISH ACRES WOULD REMAIN VACANTT& AND FALLOW, AND PERHAPS A BLIGHT. RIGHT? IT'S FOR THE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. BUT BECAUSE AS PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY HAS MADE IT A POINT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE NOW STARTING TO PUT THESE PIECES TOGETHER, OF WHICH THIS IS ONE OF THEM. OKAY, SO PART OF THERE'S A TERM IN URBAN PLANNIN& AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CALLED TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THIS ISS& ALSO TAKEN FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE TOD IS TO CREATE A CENTER THAT PROVIDES SETTINGS FOR ACTIVE COMMUNITY LIFE, SOCIAL INTERACTION AND INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. IT ENCOURAGE& WALKABLE MULTIMODAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS CONDUCTIVE OR CONDUCIVE TO INCREASED TRANSIT USAGE. SO AGAIN, JUST TO JUST TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WHAT THIS MEANS, RIGHT? SO THE TOWN OF HORIZON CITY IS A IS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO PERHAPS EL PASO. RIGHT. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN YOUR LAND USE PATTERNS ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YOU HAVE THE GOLF COURSE AND THENN& YOU HAVE POCKETS OF COMMERCIAL ALONG YOUR MAJOR ARTERIALS. RIGHT? DARRINGTON, HORIZON BOULEVARD. BUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE PAST, FOR THE EXISTENCE OF HORIZON. IT HAS BEEN PRETTY PREDOMINANTLY A SUBURBAN COMMUNITY. WHAT THE TOWN IS NOW HOPING TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THE TOD IS TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY AND, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN OR A TOWN CENTER WITHIN YOUR CITY. RIGHT. AND SO, AGAIN, BACK IN 2019, THE STAFF, YOUR PLANNERS, YOUR CONSULTANTS SAW THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND SAID, HEY, THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO START CREATING A LITTLE BIT OF MIXED USE, A LITTLE BIT OF WALKABILITY, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAN WHAT HORIZON ISS& USED TO. IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT, THOUGH, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW IT BECAUSE YOUR REGULATIONS AS OF LAST WEEKK& WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED IT.
RIGHT. SO AGAIN, IT WAS ALL R-2, IT WAS ALL R-4. AND SO THAT MEANT THAT YOU WERE JUST GOING TO GET MORE OF THE SAME. IF THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT SOME DEVELOPER WAS TO COBBLE UPP& ENOUGH PARCELS TO CREATE ENOUGH ACTIVITY TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT BECAUSE THERE HADN'T BEEN AND IT HAD BEEN VACANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AGAIN, THE IMPETUS IS THAT THE CITY, THE CITY OF HORIZON, IS NOW TAKING THIS UPON THEM, THE TOD. WHAT THIS ADDS IS. SO IMAGINE A DOWNTOWN, IMAGINE A LIFESTYLE CENTER. IMAGINE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN URBAN INFILL DEVELOPMENT. WHATT& THE TOD ADDS IS JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ELEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE TRANSIT PORTION..& RIGHT? SO YOU COULD HAVE IF THE TOWN CHOSE TO HAVE JUST A DOWNTOWN, JUST A TOWN CENTER, JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY, TWO, THREE STORIES, A MIX OF USES, A MIX OF HOUSING TYPOLOGY, SOME APARTMENTS, SOME SINGLE FAMILY. THE TOWN COULD
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CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE WITHOUT THE TOD. YOU DON'T NEED THE TOD TO DO WHAT WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO, RIGHT? BUT THE TOD ADDS A DIFFERENT ELEMENT THAT IN THE IN THE 21ST CENTURY, IN THE YEAR 2025, SOME PEOPLE, NOT EVERYONE, MAY CHOOSE TO WANT TO USE TRANSIT, RIGHT. AND THE TRANSIT HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY OF EL PASO'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS. SO THE COUNTY OF EL PASO IS REALLY STRONGLY, ADAMANTLY WORKING TOWARDS CREATING A BUS TRANSIT SYSTEM FOR THE COUNTY. AND SO THAT INCLUDES THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HORIZON CITY. AND SO NOW YOU HAVE, AGAIN, THE REALLY GREAT, BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN, IFF& YOU WILL. BUT THEN NOW YOU ADD A TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAZA, SO THATT& AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY CHOSE TO. YEAH, CAMINO, IF SOMEBODY CHOSE TO PARK IN THE PARK AND RIDE AND TAKE THE BUS TO UTEP, THEY THEY CAN IF SOMEBODY CHOSE TO, MAYBE, PERHAPS INSTEAD OF OWNING 2 OR 3 CARS, YOU OWN ONE CAR BECAUSE THE TRANSIT SYSTEM IS SO EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE THAT IT& TAKES YOU TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF& EL PASO COUNTY. NOW YOU CAN. AND IF SOMEBODY CHOSE TO NOT RIDE THE BUS EVER IN THEIR LIFE, THE& DON'T HAVE TO, RIGHT? YOU STILL HAVE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES..& THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY. YOU STILL HAVE CARS, YOU STILL HAVE STREETS. YOU STILL HAVE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. THISS& JUST ADDS THE OPTION FOR PEOPLE& WHO WANT TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND STILL CONTINUE TO LIVE WITHIN HORIZON. THE OPTION OF AGAIN, WALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE, USING TRANSIT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND SO THIS IS REALLY WHA& THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES. SO THAT'S WHAT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT DOES. AND SO AGAIN BENEFITS OF A TOD. IT ENCOURAGES A MIX OF USES. IT CONCENTRATES DENSITY AROUND TRANSIT. EXCUSE ME. IT SUPPORTS REPURPOSING AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT. IT COMPLETE. IT'SS& WHAT WE KNOW AS COMPLETE STREETS FOR BETTER TRANSIT. SO INSTEAD OF STREETS BEING SOLELY FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, YOU NOW HAVE STREETS THAT ARE ACCOMMODATE,,& YES, CARS. BUT THEN THEY ALSO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS. THEY ACCOMMODATE BIKE LANES, THEY ACCOMMODATE TRANSIT. AND SO YOUR STREETS ARE ALSO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT MANAGES PARKING A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE YOU'RE CONCENTRATING PARKING AREAS AND OR PARKING SPACES IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AND THEN IT CREATES ENGAGING PUBLIC SPACES. AND SO THE HORIZON TOD CHECKS ALL OF THE BOXES OF THE BENEFITS OF WHAT OUR BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. NICE. ONE OF THE FIRST COMPONENTS THAT WE AGAIN, THAT OUR COMPANY DID LAST OR TWO YEARS AGO, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, IS TO LOOK AT WHERE IT WITHIN THE 60 ACRES WAS THE BEST PART. THE BEST AREA TO SITE YOUR TRANSIT PLAZA AND YOUR CITY HALL. AS YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PART OF THE REVITALIZATION OFF& THE WHOLE COMPONENT INCLUDES THE NEW POLICE STATION, WHICH IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN PERHAPS HAVING A NEW CITY HALL. AND SO THIS IS TOWARDS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOD OFF OF ROTMAN.AND SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. WE CREATED THREE SITE PLANS. THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THE WHAT PERHAPS ONE OF THE FIRST COMPONENTS TO START FILLING IN THE GAPS OF THE PUZZLE, OR THEE& FIRST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IS THE TRANSIT PLAZA WITH YOUR NEW CIT& HALL. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US..& YES, SIR. BUT IF I JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE AND US. I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT OVER THERE, RIGHT? YES.
CORRECT. THIS IS. RODMAN, RIGHT? RODMAN. CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO THE BUSSES ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE FACING LIKE RIGHT HERE. YES. CORRECT. ON THE BUSSESS& WOULD BE ON THIS SIDE. YEAH. I'LL SHOW YOU. WE SHOULD HAVE A MAP AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE WE THE PARCELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT YES THAT'S CORRECT. AND& THEN AGAIN JUST THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION. IT'S A RENDERING DOESN'T YOU KNOW, THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK THIS WAY. THE DESIGN COULD BE PERHAPS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU, THE ARCHITECT YOU CHOSE COULD SAY.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THING HERE TO& RECOGNIZE IS THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE THE BUSSES AND YOU HAVE THE TRANSIT PLAZA, AND THEN THAT YOU HAVE THE STREET AND TODS, ORR& WHAT WE CALL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENTS. YOU WANT THE BUILDINGS FRONTING THE STREETS AND THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. RIGHT. TYPICAL SUBURBAN SPRAWL HAS PARKING IN THE FRONT BUILDING FAR AWAY. AND THIS COMPONENT YOU NOW HAVE AGAIN, IMAGINE THIS REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLAZA IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING WORKING WITH THE STREET TO CREATE THIS REALLY BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC SPACE FOR PEOPLE. AGAIN, THE WALKABILITY COMPONENT. RIGHT. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FORM BASED CODE AGAIN. SO THIS IS WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. JUST THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING YOU HAVE.
SOME ARE TWO, SOME ARE FORCED. YOU HAVE SOME C ONES. BUT I DOO& WANT TO REITERATE FOR THIS BODY AND FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE C ONES ARE NOT PART OF THE REZONING AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF
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THE TOD FORM BASED CODE DISTRICTS. SO IT'S ONLY ALL THE R-2S AND OUR FORCE THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE REZONINGS. SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON WHATT& THE FORM BASED CODE REGULATIONS ARE PER SE. BUT ESSENTIALLY, IF& YOU LOOK AT THAT YELLOW AT THE TOP, THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL AT3.AND SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS YOU COULD IMAGINE THERE'S EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF THE TOD.
AND WE RECOGNIZE AND WE WANT TO& BE RESPECTFUL OF THOSE OF THOSE PARCELS AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SO WHAT THAT WHAT THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF YELLOW DOES IS TIER THREE IS IT SERVES& AS A TRANSITION COMPONENT TO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY. RIGHT. AND WHEN I SAY DENSITY, I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO THINK THISS& IS NEW YORK CITY DENSITY. IT'S, YOU KNOW, BIG URBAN DOWNTOWN CORE DENSITY. IT REALLY IS. AND IT REALLY IS 3 TO 4 STORIES MAX, IN SOME CASES, EVEN ONE STORY.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOGETHER. THE SIDEWALKS, THE WIDER SIDEWALKS, STREET TREES, THE PUBLIC REALMS, A LITTLE BIT MORE INVITING, A LITTLE BIT MORE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU'RE TYPICALLY USED TO. SO AGAIN, THE YELLOW SERVES AS THE T3, AS A TRANSITION PERIOD, AS A TRANSITION AREA. THE T4, WHICH IS THE BROWN IS IMAGINE NOW GOING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MOSTLY TOWNHOMES& SO YOU NOW HAVE ATTACHED BUILDINGS. YOU NOW HAVE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, TRIPLEXES. AND THEN YOU YOU CAN HAVE LITTLE POCKETS OF MIXED USE. RIGHT. SO A LITTLE IMAGINE A TWO STORY BUILDING WITH A LITTLE OFFICE OR RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM, AND THEN A LITTLE HOUSING COMPONENT AT THE TOP. BUT AGAIN, THE T4 IS PREDOMINANTLY STILL MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR T5 WHICH IS THE PURPLE. AND THAT PURPLE DOES BECOME YOUR YOUR MIXED USE BUILDINGS. RIGHT& SO NOW YOU GO FROM TWO TO 3 TO 4 STORIES. NOW YOU DO HAVE RESTAURANTS, COFFEE SHOPS, BOOKSTORES, DRY CLEANERS, SORTT& OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE APARTMENTS AT THE TOP. AND SO AGAIN, IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR TODS TOO& BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE SPENDING THE CITY SPENDING A LO& OF MONEY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IS YOU NEED TO HAVE CRITICAL MASS. YOU NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING WITHIN THE BUS STOP, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN AGAIN, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE LIVING IN A ON THE BUS STOP, THE MORE YOU START TO PEEL OFF. THAT WILL START TO USE THE BUS, RIGHT? NOT EVERYONE, NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO USE THE BUS. BUT THE MORE YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THE BUS ALSO INCREASES. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BEE& LOOKING AT TODAY. SO THE REZONING GOING FROM R2 TO R4 TO& T3, T4 AND T5. AND THEN YOU HAV& THE GREEN WHICH IS THE CIVIC PARCELS. THERE'S A LITTLE POCKET PARK THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE SORT& OF DESIGNED FOR YOU ALL. AND THEN MR. BORREGO, THE GREEN PART THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM DESMOND PARK, THAT'S THE TRANSIT PLAZA. YOU SEE THE HASH MARKS? YES. THE HASH MARKS MEANS THAT THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY OF HORIZON HAS, HAS, HAS PURCHASED. OKAY. AND SO AGAIN, THE CURRENT ZONING IS THE SUBURBAN EUCLIDEAN ZONING. AND THEN NOW YOU HAVE THE FORM BASED CODE ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN AGAIN YES MA'AM. YES MA'AM. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE CIRCLED IN RED, IT AT THE BOTTOM. AT THE BOTTOM IT'SS& THE COMMERCIAL AREAS. AND IT'S TO DEMARCATE THAT IT'S NOT PART& OF THE REZONING, NOR IS IT PART& OF THE. YES. CORRECT. AND IT'S A YEAH, IT'S ALL THE COMMERCIAL, THE C1. SO THE C1 IS NOT PART OF THE REZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU..& YES, MA'AM. NICE. LOOKS GREAT..& AND THEN I'M JUST GOING TO SPEN& A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME HERE WIT& THE FORM BASED CODE. SO AGAIN EUCLIDEAN ZONING REGULATES LAND USE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL RIGHT. IT SEPARATES LAND USES. STRUCTURES ARE DIVIDED INTO LAND INTO DISTRICTS. THE GOAL OF THE EUCLIDEAN ZONING IS TO SEPARATE INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES. AND THE EXAMPLE THAT WE USE BECAUSE IT'& YOU KNOW, IT WAS CREATED 100 YEARS AGO IN NEW YORK CITY AND LOS ANGELES, WHERE YOU HAD FACTORIES, PEOPLE LIVING NEXT T& FACTORIES, RIGHT? AND OBNOXIOUS ODORS AND NOISES AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IT WAS INCOMPATIBLE. AND SO ZONING IS CREATED TO THEN SEPARATE LAND USES. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WHEN YOU GO TO EL PASO, SOCORRO, HORIZON, YOU, YOU NOW HAVE VERY DISTINCT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, VERY DISTINCT SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENTS ARE TUCKED AWAY IN SOME AREA. INDUSTRIAL IS INDUSTRIAL, CORRECT. RIGHT. AND ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THOSE THINGS WERE GOOD 100 YEARS AGO.& AND THERE'S STILL SOME MERIT TO& HAVING, YOU KNOW, SEPARATION OF ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT LIFESTYLES ARE CHANGING THE HOUSING, THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TOO& LIVE. RIGHT. NOT EVERYBODY WANTS
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TO BUY A HOUSE, ESPECIALLY YOUNGER GENERATIONS, OLDER AMERICANS. THEY'RE WANTING TOO& DOWNSIZE. THEY WANT THEIR KIDS ARE OFF TO COLLEGE. THEY HAVEE& THIS BIG HOUSE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN THE WALKABILITY OF AMENITIES LIKE COFFEE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, RIGHT. THINGS TO DO. SO THE EUCLIDEAN ZONING LOOKS AT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOUR IT'S YOUR TYPICAL SUBURBAN ZONING CODE. AND THEN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO A FORM BASED CODE, IT'S STILL REGULATES, THERE'S STILL REGULATION OF LAND USES. RIGHT. BUT BUT THE MAJOR BUT IT'S THAT'S NOT THE MAJOR EMPHASIS. THE MAJOR EMPHASIS AGAIN IS ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, THE FORM OF BUILDINGS, THE FORM OF STRUCTURES, THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING IS INTERTWINED WITH THE STREETS. AND SO AGAIN, THE GOAL& IS TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND ESTHETIC CONSISTENCY. EXAMPLE IS A DOWNTOWN AREA MIGHT BE ZONED TO REQUIRE BUILDINGS TO BE CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK, WITH STOREFRONTS AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY DESIGN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE UPPER FLOORS ARE APARTMENTS OR OFFICES. RIGHT.AND SO, AGAIN, AS OF UP UNTIL LAST WEEK, IN ORDER TO DO THE MIXED USE ZONING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL, RIGHT? YOU DON'T YOUR CITY DIDN'T HAVE A MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT, EVEN IF THE CITY WASN'T DOING THIS, AND A PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPER WANTED& TO COME IN AND DO A MIXED USE BUILDING, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU IN THE CITY LIMITS WITHIN THE INCORPORATED LIMITS OF TEXAS CITIES, YOU CAN'T DO WHATEVERR& YOU WANT WITH YOUR LAND, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST THE REALITY. THAT'S JUST LOCAL GOVERNMENT REGULATION. SO NOW YOU DO HAVEE& THE TOOLS AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS TO ALLOW THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD& AT LEAST IN THE TOD. RIGHT? OKAY. AND SO THIS GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE. AGAIN THE TRANSECT OPERATES FROM LOWER DENSITY TOO& HIGHER DENSITY. SO THE T3 WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE T4 WOULD BE SOME DEGREE OF TOWNHOMES WITH SOME DEGREE OFF& MIXED USE. AND THEN THE T5 IS COMPLETELY HIGHER DENSITY, A LITTLE BIT MORE RETAIL, A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CIVIC SPACES. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THE TRANSECT LOOKS LIKE AGAIN, JUST FOR, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE REZONING WITH THAT. YES, SIR. REAL QUICK ON THAT VISUAL. LIKE I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT PERCENTAGES OF GREEN SPACE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST MIGHT BE BY THE DESIGN AND THE WAY THAT LOTSS& LAID OUT. BUT DO YOU GUYS TAKE IN ARE YOU GUYS USING THAT PARK THAT'S ALREADY THERE TO KIND OF FLOW IT. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOO& LIKE IF THAT PARK WASN'T THERE, WE WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH. YEAH, RIGHT. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DESMOND. YEAH.
YEAH. CORRECT. YES. CORRECT. SO IT'S A GREAT IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND A GREAT OBSERVATION. AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. SO AND YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU HAD SAID HEY ABLE CITY OR HEY SOME DEVELOPER OR SOME ARCHITECTURAL FIRM CREATE A MASTER PLAN FOR US. RIGHT. A CLEAN SLATE. IT MIGHT HAVE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS, AGAIN, WHAT WE CALL TODS OR FORM BASED CODES OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. THE BLOCK STRUCTURE MATTERS, RIGHT?& SO WE DON'T REALLY LIKE REALLYY& LONG BLOCKS BECAUSE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK LONG DISTANCES AND IT'S UNINVITING. IT'S NOT INTERESTING. SO BLOCKS& ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. BUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS I MENTIONED EARLIER AND I SHOULD HAVE ADDED TO THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING NOW IS THAT IT'S ALREADY PLATTED. RIGHT. SO WE ARE WE ARE WORKING WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF THE CURRENT PLAT. AND THE CITY CHOSE TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH. AND THEN AGAIN, QUITE FRANKLY, THE BLOCK STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY NOT BAD,,& RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE T5, YOU HAVE THOSE SMALL BLOCKS, YOU HAVE THOSE SMALL LOTS THE, THE, THIS PERHAPS THIS LONG, REALLY LONG BLOCK ALONG RODMAN. THAT'S THE T4 IS A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG. BUT AGAIN THAT'S JUST THE LIMITATIONS THAT THAT THAT'S ALREADY THE WAY THAT IT'S PLATTED. GOTCHA. AND SO WE DID ADD BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT, YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST ADD ANOTHER COMPONENT OF A SUCCESSFUL TOD. THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS OPEN SPACES AND GREEN SPACES. AND SO& THAT LITTLE POCKET PARK THAT WE THAT, THAT YOU SEE ON NORTH OF THE, OF THE OF THE TRANSIT PLAZA, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE IDENTIFIED WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO CREATE ANOTHER, ANOTHER SMALL PARK WITHIN THE TOD. AND SO NOW YOU HAVE SOME COMPONENTS OF PEOPLE WALKING TO THE PARK WITHIN 5 TO 10 MINUTES, PEOPLE WALKING IF THEY WANTED TO, TOO& THE RESTAURANT TO WORK TO THEIR APARTMENT, AND THEN IF THEY WANTED TO, REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND GREAT, TAKE THE BUS RIGHT TOO& DIFFERENT PARTS OF EL PASO COUNTY SO THAT IT'S A GREAT OBSERVATION ON YOUR PART. BUT YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. WHEN& WE WERE CITING THE TRANSIT PLAZA, YOU WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ADJACENCIES OF& YOUR EXISTING PARK, WHICH IS A GREAT, BEAUTIFUL PARK, AND YOU HAVE THE REC CENTER THERE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL. SO NOW YOU START TO CREATE THESE REALLY GREAT SYNERGIES AND FLOWS OF EXISTING AMENITIES WITH PROPOSED AMENITIES. SURE. THANK YOU. YES&
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MA'AM. I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW WILL THE REZONING AFFECT THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY CURRENTLY HERE RIGHT NOW, OR WILL IT. SO THE JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE REZONING IS ONLY FOR THE FOR THE COLORED AREAS, COLORED AREAS. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE NO THERE'S NO HOMES, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ALL VACANT DEVELOPMENT THERE. CORRECT. SO THE JUST TO BE CLEAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ONE THAT'S GOING TOO& BE AFFECTED OTHER THAN MAYBE THE BACK LOT, MAYBE THE BACK WALL ONE. YEAH. THE ADJACENTT& NEIGHBORS. YEAH. THE ADJACENT ONES WOULD BE AFFECTED AFFECTED BY WHOEVER BUILDS WHAT WE BUILD ON THAT BEHIND THEM. YES, MA'AM.CORRECT. SO AGAIN JUST TOO& REITERATE, NO EXISTING HOMES ARE BEING REZONED. NICE. NO, NO, NO EXISTING PROPERTIES WITH EXISTING HOMES ARE BEING REZONED. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, TO THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING MR. JOLLEY OR SOMEONE ELSE HAS MADE IS THAT. YES. THE YELLOW.
IF YOU LIVE A BUDDING ONE OF THE YELLOWS, IT COULD AFFECT YOU. HOWEVER, EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T DOING THIS AND SOMEBODY CHOSE T& BUILD, THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD ANYWAYS. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE KEEPING IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. RIGHT. SOO& THAT'S EXACTLY THE BUFFER THATT& WE WANTED TO CREATE IN THOSE TRANSITIONAL TIMES. SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME POSITIVE GAINS BECAUSE MAYBE THE, THE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO RAISEE& THE ROCK WALLS A CERTAIN HEIGHT OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALREADY LOOK TO COMPLEMENT WITH THE CURRENT ROCKWALL SIZES? SO WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT, BUT ISS& IT SIX FEET THAT YOU WOULD NEED. YES. SO AS LONG AS IT'S SIX FEET. BUT WE YOU KNOW AGAIN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SIX FOOT ROCKWALL IS SEEMS LIKE IT'S LIK& WHAT YOU'D NORMALLY SEE AGAIN. AND THEN AGAIN THERE'S NO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ONCE WHEN THOSE DO START TO BE LINED UP TO GET BUILT, THEY WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. GOTCHA. THE ONLY REASON AND MAYBE I MIGHT PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE ON THE T THREE SUBURBAN, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE MIGHT ALSO TAKE ON A 2 TO 3 MAYBE DIMENSIONAL, LIKE ON THE HEIGHT STORIES OR OR IT CAN LEND ITSEL& TO IT. YEAH, WELL, I THINK THE MAX LET ME, VICTORIA CHAVEZ FRO& OUR STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE THE NEXT SLIDES AND THEN LET ME LOOK AT, LET ME LOOK AT THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THE FORM BASED CODE ALLOWS WHILE SHE DOES IT. YEAH. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT. HELLO, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS VICTORIA CHAVEZ, AND I'M JUST GOING TOO& WALK US THROUGH WHAT? THE REZONING PROCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO JUST TO REITERATE OUR AREA RIGHT NOW, WE ARE FOCUSING ON THIS PROJECT ON DARRINGTON, A LITTLE BIT OF HORIZON AND RODMAN ROAD. IT'S ABOUT 60 ACRES. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL VACANT LAND. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 293 PARCELS, WITH THE CITY OWNING 66. AND IN THE PROCESS OF STILL COLLECTING& MORE PARCELS AS WE MOVE ALONG, COOL. EXISTING ZONING. AGAIN, W& HAVE R2 ABOUT FOUR OF THOSE PARCELS. WE HAVE R4, WHICH IS 269. AND THEN THERE IS I WANTED& TO MAKE A CORRECTION. WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S VACANT. WE TOOK OUT COMMERCIAL THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING LIKE THE FIRST LIGHT AREAS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THAT LITTLE PORTION RIGHT THERE WITH JUST 20 PARCELS. THE VISION HERE IS TOO& MATCH WITH WHAT THE CURRENT TOD DISTRICTS THAT WE JUST APPROVED LAST WEEK WITH THE T3 SUBURBANN& WITH 44 PARCELS, WE HAVE THE T4 URBAN WITH 131 T5 MIXED USE, 85 CIVIC 18, AND THEN SOME PONDING DISTRICTS AS WELL WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS WE WERE KIND OF FOCUSING ON WHAT'S AROUND THIS, WE DO HAVE THOSE SINGLE FAMILIES, 18 PARCELS WITH R1, 68 WITH R4. THREE OF THOSE ARE OUR EIGHT. WE DO HAVE SOME ALREADY ZONED FOR A ONE APARTMENTS AND THEN AS WELL GENERAL COMMERCIAL C1 18 PARCELS. AND THERE'S SOME OTHER VALUES ABOUT FIVE OF THOSE. NICE. WE DID SOME POSTINGS ON MAY 30TH. ON A FRIDAY WE POSTED TWO SIGNS, ONE ON DARRINGTON. A& YOU CAN SEE RIGHT OVER HERE, IT'S A LITTLE OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE ON RODMAN DRIVE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE NEXT TO WHERE THE PARK IS. WE WERE REQUIRED T& REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WITHIN PROPERTY OWNERS, WITHIN THE TOD AND OFF& THE 200 BUFFER. WE SENT THE PLANNING AND ZONING NOTICE. A TOTAL OF THOSE NOTICES WAS 167
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NOTICES. WOW. IT WAS A LOT. YEAH. AND DID THEY GO TO ANY UNIQUE PART OF THE WORLD? THERE WAS SOME A LITTLE OUT EVEN OUTSIDE OF OUR STATE. COUNTRY. EXACTLY. IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO GO THROUGH. AND AS YOU GUYS HEARD,& WE ARE HAVING OUR COMMUNITY MEETING TOMORROW. IT IS GOING T& BE AT 6 P.M. TO 8 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO HOST IT AT THE AUGLAIZE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND OUR GOAL HERE IS TO REALLY BRING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE THIS OPEN DISCUSSION, HEAR WHAT OUR PLANS ARE, WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO THERE'S NO MISCOMMUNICATION OR CONFUSION. WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OPEN DISCUSSION. WE HAVE POSTED IT ON THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE IT HANGING IN THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT BUILDING. WE SENTT& OUT LITTLE POSTCARDS WITHIN THE TOD FOCUS AREA, AND WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE 200 BUFFER. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO CARLOS. BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I MOVE ON, THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. ON THE T THREE THE MAXIMUM IS TWO AND A HALF STORIES. SO THE HALF BEING LIKE LIKE, YOU KNOW ATTIC SPACE THAT SORT OF THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE COOL.YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. AND WITH THAT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT WOULD BE THE REAR SETBACK.
THE REAR SETBACK ON THAT FOR THAT. ZONING. OH YEAH. WITH THE ELECTRIC RIGHT THERE TO. TEN FEET MINIMUM. TEN FEET MINIMUM. OH THAT'S NOT BAD. OKAY. GOODD& STUFF. I HAVE A QUESTION.
EVERYTHING LOOKS AMAZING. AND THEN ONCE IT'S IN MOVING MOTION BECAUSE I'VE VISITED PLACES LIK& IN AUSTIN, LITTLE PEEKS OF AND HEARING YOU I'M LIKE, HEY, I'VE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S CALIFORNIA, LIKE RANCHO CUCAMONGA IS LIKE FAMOUS FOR SIMILARITIES, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED. AND BUT THE COST LIKE ONCE WE'RE SEEING ONE OF THE LARGEST GROWTHS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR AREA LIKE, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO SEEING, LIKE YOU SAID, SOMEE& PEOPLE CAN JUST GET INTO A HOUSE ANYMORE. SO THESE PLANS WORK. AMAZING. BUT THEN WHAT DOES THI& DO TO THE TAXPAYER LIKE IN THE LONG TERM? LIKE HOW DOES THATT& COME IN WITH TRANSIT? AND THENN& NOW BRINGING IN OUR CONNECTIONN& WITH THE CITY COST. YES, SIR. SO GREAT QUESTION. MR. RODRIGO. AND I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A PROPER RESPONSE FOR YOU, AND MAYBE I MIGHT HAVE, ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, OUR LIKE THE ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT WASN'T PART& OF OUR SCOPE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF& I COULD, IF I COULD ADD WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT IT DOES CREATE SOME DEGREE OF AFFORDABILITY..& RIGHT. SO AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO OR MAY BE ABLE TOO& QUALIFY FOR A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE AND MAY NOT WANT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT MAY STILL WANT TO LIVE IN THE TOWN OF HORIZON, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE THOSE OPTIONS ARE PROBABLY VERY LIMITED FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO RENT. IN THE TOWN OF HORIZON, THERE'S A NEW APARTMENTS NORTH OF HERE, RIGHT? BUT THERE AREN'T. BUT THERE AREN'T VERY MANY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE ALSO HARD TO BUILD BECAUSE,& AS YOU KNOW, WHEN ANYTIME THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO REZONE IT, THE NEIGHBORS COME OUT, THEY GET AGAINST IT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HORIZON IN PARTICULAR. I'M JUST GENERALIZING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. RIGHT. YOU HEAR IT ALL.
HUMAN NATURE. YEAH. YOU HEAR, YOU KNOW, NOT IN MY BACKYARD. BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT IT DOES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY AND THE REASON THAT SOME PEOPLE& ARE AGAINST IT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF CHANGE. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF THE UNKNOWN. WITH THIS, YOU'RE LAYING IT OUT BEFOREHAND, RIGHT& SO YOU'RE ALREADY LETTING THE PEOPLE KNOW THE COMMUNITY, KNOW& WHAT THE VISION IS. AND YOU HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS& SO IT SORT OF EASES IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE NOW, NOW IT SAYS, HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS. SO IT HELPS FACILITATE THAT. BUT ONCE IT IS& BUILT, THEN AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT ON THE TOP OF THE SECOND OR THIRD STORY, THEY CAN. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IF THEY'RE FOR SALE, THEY CAN RIGHT WITHIN THE WHOLE COMPONENT. SO IT DOES ADD SOME COMPONENT OF MIXED INCOME, SOME COMPONENT OF AFFORDABILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT IT DOES TO YOUR TAX BASE. QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT CERTAINLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYONE DOES. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT JUST YOU KNOW, IT IT IT WILL ADD I MEAN, IT WILL ADD TO YOUR TAX BASE. RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A 60 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND THAT'S CONTRIBUTING ZERO TO YOUR TAX BASE, AND IT PROBABLY WILL HAVE BEEN FOR THE MANY FOR THE NEXT 20 OR 30 OR 40 YEARS. WITH THIS, AT LEAST, YOU'RE GOING TO& GENERATE SOME SALES TAX. YOU'RE& GOING TO GENERATE SOME TAX REVENUE, SOME PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, BOTH FOR THE CITY AND THE CLINT ISD. RIGHT. BUT IT'S A
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GREAT QUESTION. I JUST YOU KNOW, I DON'T IT'D BE HARD FOR US TOO& QUANTIFY THAT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WHAT THOSE FACTORS ARE..& LIKE. YOU SAID, I THINK YOU'REE& RIGHT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I KIN& OF LIKE, HIT ON A ASKING AN EQUATION OF AN ANSWER, BUT I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT PERFECTLY.IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GRADUALLY GROWS INTO THE COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE OUR OWN PROPERTY TAXES DO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF GROWTH. SO GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU. CARLOS..& YES, SIR. GOOD JOB. YES, SIR. MR. AS FAR AS, LIKE, ACQUISITIONS HAVE GONE, I KNOWW& YOU GUYS SENT OUT NOTICES TO AL& THE PROSPECTIVE PROPERTY OWNERS& OF ALL THE PARCELS. HOW HOW HAS THE RESPONSE BEEN? ARE YOU GUYS BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE LOTS AND IS ANYONE GOING TO, LIKE, BE A HOLDOUT OR PREVENT THE ONESS& THAT WERE SO, SO FAR, SIR, WE RECEIVED ABOUT TEN PHONE CALLS.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE BEEN PRETTY POSITIVE AS FAR AS WHAT'S WHAT'S COMING. THEY'RE EXCITED AND ALSO EXCITED TO LIKE MAYBE SELL IT PROPERTIES. THERE WAS TWO THAT HAD CONCERNS, MOSTLYY& FOLKS THAT WERE OUT OF TOWN, AND THEY'RE NOT SURE THEY'RE THINKING OF THE TRANSIT AS SOMETHING LIKE HUGE. LIKE ONE OF THE FOLKS WAS LIKE FROM ARIZONA, AND SHE WAS THINKING, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT BIG. AND I WAS TRYING TO TELL HER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER THAN THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, I THINK WAS WISCONSIN. HE HE WAS TRYING TOO& KIND OF ENVISION WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. AND THEN HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS OVER, LIKE SOME OF THE USES, BUT REALLY NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT THEY'RE AGAINST IT, BUT MORE LIKE JUST THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOTS THERE. AND THEN THE LADY FROM ARIZONA WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE BUILDING A HOUSE AND IS SHE GOING TO HAVE THAT HUGE TRANSIT STATION, YOU KNOW, BEHIND HER? AND I'M LIKE, IT'SS& NOT WHAT YOU THINK. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS HUMONGOUS THING. IT'S MORE LIKE AN AREA FOR FOLKS TO CATCH THE BUS, YOU KNOW, SHADED AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NOT THIS HUGE THING THAT WE HAVE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS THE EL PASO TRANSIT AUTHORITY THAT WE'RE A MEMBER OF, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE. AND REALLY IT'S MORE LIKE SHUTTLES.
THEY'RE NOT BIG BUSSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S PRETTY SMALL RIGHT NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL GROW. YOU KNOW? I NEVER EVEN SEE THEM LIKE THEY'RE RARE. YEAH, YEAH, THEY'RE PRETTYY& SMALL. YEAH. PRETTY SMALL HOPEFULLY WILL GROW. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE RECEIVED.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME FOLKS THAT WANTED INFORMATION ON IT. SOO& WE'VE BEEN SENDING A LOT OF THE CURRENT CODE. AND IN THE FUTURE THE CODE CODE AS WELL, SO THATT& THEY COULD COMPARE AND THEN MAK& THEIR OWN ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. GOOD STUFF. AND JUST LOOKING WITH FORESIGHT, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE HOLDOUTS OR ABSENTEES THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T FIND, WHAT IS LIKE THE PLAY MOVING FORWARD, SINCE WE'RE ALLOCATING LOTS OF TAX DOLLARS ON THIS, I WOULD HATE TO SEE US STONEWALLED. AND SO THE PROCESS IS LIKE THIS BASED ON TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. IT WOULD TRIGGER WHAT'S CALLED A TWO, 11, 20% OF THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE AREA ARE IN OPPOSITION. THATT& WOULD TRIGGER A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO TRY TO DEFEAT IT.
IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR TOO& APPROVE IT. OKAY. THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO IN THAT CASE THAT WOULD TAKE OVER AND PRETTY MUCH DETERMINE WHICH WAY WOULD GO. THE 211 OKAY. AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO FOR A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY. YES, MA'AM. WE'RE ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. WE SUPPORT THE GREAT WORK THAT APPLE CITY HAS DONE. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE GREAT RENDERINGS, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW THE FOLKS WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE. AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE POINT. THERE WAS A QUESTION ADDED ONN& RODMAN, MR. RODRIGO. ALSO, WE ARE DOING A TRAIL, A MULTI-USE TRAIL ALONG RODMAN THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO THE TOD AS WELL.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OFF& NICE. THAT'S THAT'S THE CONNECTION REALLY BETWEEN BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARK, COLE PARK AND THEN AND THEN THE, THE TOD NICE AREA. THAT'S THAT GREEN SPACE LOOKS SHARP. YEAH. EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT. I THINK THERE'S NO REASON WHY NOT TO, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. WE GOT TO VOTE. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE. YEAH, I HAVE A SECOND. I SECOND THAT MOTION BEFORE YOU DO, MADAM CHAIR, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU MAY WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC. OKAY. YOU KNOW, ASK THE PUBLIC IF THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY OF THAT BEFORE YOU MISS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TOO& ADDRESS THIS ITEM QUESTION. YOU MAY STEP FORWARD, SIR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE LOCATION OF YOUR RESIDENCE.& OKAY. MY NAME IS OSCAR DAVID RASCON AND I HAVE PROPERTY ON ON GEARHART. YES, SIR. BUT FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE WE GOING TO GET
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ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR EACH PROPERTY? I MEAN, I'D LIKE TOO& KNOW WHERE EXACTLY. I JUST KNOW& IT'S GEARHART AND IT'S IN THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S ABOUT ALL.WOULD WE RECEIVE ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION OF WHERE THAT OUR LOT IS? SO I THINK WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, HE'S ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PARCELS IN THE, IN THE CURRENT AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT? CORRECT& AND THEN YOU WANT A MORE LIKE LIKE PINPOINT. YEAH. I SAW I SAW WHERE GEARHART WAS ON THE, ON THE MAP, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, LOT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER 16 OR 17 OR WHATEVER. WHERE, WHERE SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION.
AND I'M SURE OTHERS WILL HAVEE& THE SAME. SO, MADAM CHAIR, FOR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S INTERESTED IN GETTING ANY TYPEE& OF INFORMATION, THEY CAN CONTACT US. WE'LL HAVE OUR INFORMATION HERE AND WE CAN EMAIL YOU OR WE CAN MAIL YOU THE INFORMATION,,& WHATEVER YOU PREFER. AND THEN WE CAN EMAIL YOU A MAP. AND THEN I& YOU PROVIDE INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU HAVE, AND WE CAN PINPOINTT& THE LOT ON ON THAT MAP FOR YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION. JUST. A MY MOM BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID AND I BASICALLY I SORT OF BOUGHT IT FROM HER WHEN I WAS 25. I'M NOW RETIRED AND I'M 74, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I'VE BEEN FAITHFUL PAYING MY TAXES EVERY YEAR. BUT THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT WAS I LIKE THE IDEA. IT LOOKS REALLY NEAT AND EXCITING AND BUT IS IT IS THERE SOME PLANS FOR LIKE A SENIOR CITIZEN AREA COMMUNITY AREA OR SOMETHING WHERE IT'S MOSTLY SENIOR CITIZENS AND, YOU KNOW, THEN RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP TO EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY A SENIOR CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE,,& WE DO HAVE A SENIOR CENTER THAT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OVER HERE, WHERE CORKY CORCORAN PARK IS AT, AND THEY DO MEET THERE ALMOST DAILY. I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF SENIOR CITIZEN LIVING LIKE AA& LIKE LIKE A COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. YEAH. OKAY. RETIREMENT CENTER. SO THAT HASN'T BEEN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER AT THIS TIME. BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. YES, I MAY DOWNSIZE LIKE I THINK HE'S HE'S SPOKE ABOUT DOWNSIZING FROM EL PASO. AND YOU KNOW COMING DOWN TO A LITTLE LITTLE QUIETER AREA. RIGHT. AND THIS SEEMS EXCITING IN THE PARK AREA AND THE WALKING AREA. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONVINCE MY WIFE TO, TO DO SOMETHING HERE.
SO OVER HERE YEAH I UNDERSTAND OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP. THANK YOU. GREAT QUESTION. THERE'S ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF YOU DO HAV& ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU CAN WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING AND WE CAN SPEAK TO MR. RUBIO HEREE& AT THE END, IF YOU WOULD LIKE T& VOICE A CONCERN THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COME UP TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS, ANY, ANY TYPE OF QUESTIONS, WE REALLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REGARDING YOUR LOT SPECIFICALLY.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT HERE, BUT YES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS. YES SIR. MY NAME. MYY& NAME IS DAVID SIERRA. YES. MR. 344 HIGLEY. IT BUTTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE T THREE SECTION. AND SO THAT'S WHY I CAME TO THE MEETING. ALL THIS 36 PARCELS CORRECT ON THE T THREE 4444 FOR THOSE, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT'S UNDEVELOPED LAND. SOO& WHICH MEANS THERE'S NO UTILITIES ON IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. SOO& WHOEVER WOULD WANT TO BUILD THERE WOULD HAVE TO. I MEAN, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE PURCHASED BY ONE DEVELOPER AND THEN DEVELOPED, OR IS IT GOING TO BE BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO BRING IN UTILITIES FOR EACH PARCEL? YES,& SIR. LET ME JUST CLARIFY. SO WHAT WE CALL THE PROPERTIES THA& ARE OUT HERE, IT'S LIKE IT'SS& KIND OF CALLED LIKE A PAPER PLAT. WHAT IT MEANS THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN OR NOT DEVELOPED, BUT IT'S SUBDIVIDEDD& BACK IN LIKE THE 60S, 70S. CORRECT. AND THERE WAS NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. CORRECT. BACK THEN THEY ALLOWED THAT LIKE, LIKE FOR SUBDIVISIONS TO BE RECORDED WITHOUT THAT. BUT NOWADAYS THE LAW PRETTY MUCHH& STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE BEFORE YOU CAN SELL THESE LOTS. RIGHT. SO. THE BURDEN ON THOSE FOLKS THAT WANT TO BUILD NOW WOULD BE& THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY EITHER PERHAPS REPLAT THE PROPERTY TOO& BRING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE INTO TO, TO THE AREA THAT YOU WANT T& DEVELOP, WHICH MEANS PROBABLY
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STREETS AND UTILITIES AND ANY TYPE OF PONDING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. RIGHT. WELL, THE PONDING IS ALREADY THERE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. WE WOKE UP TO A HALF AN INCH OF DIRT EVERY MORNING. SO THE SO THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, THE PONDING THAT'S THERE IS REALLY NOT FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IT'S REALLY MORE FOR DRAINAGE FROM DARRINGTON. DARRINGTON. YES, SIR. SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. WELL, I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERN WAS WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE BECAUSE WE LIKED THE 60 ACRES OF BARREN DESERT IS NOT A BLIGHT TO US. I MEAN, IT'S UNDEVELOPED LAND. NEVER BEEN TOUCHED. OF COURSE, THEY THEY DID PUT SOME STREETS IN THERE, BUT THOSE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, STREETS. AND NOW WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. AND IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WOULD HAVE THAT T3, SAY, UNDEVELOPED, MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE PURCHASED A PROPERTY THERE. RIGHT? YEAH. AND I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY START BUILDING ANYTHING THERE. SO MAYBE THAT'LL BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO PUT MY HOUSE ON THE MARKET. BECAUSE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S UNBEARABLE WITH ALL THE DIRT THAT'S BEING RAISED. AND I'M NOT THE ONLYY& ONE. I'M SURPRISED MORE OF MY NEIGHBORS AREN'T HERE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO. I'M SORRY T& HEAR THAT AND TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, SIR. SO WHAT YOU FACE IS A LOT OF, LIKE, DIRT CAPTURE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE AMOUNT YOU DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT SHIELD THAT AND CREATE LIKE A BETTER LIKE LANDSCAPE VIEW FOR YOU VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE FACING RIGHT NOW. WELL, NO. BECAUSE THAT THE DIRT THAT WAS RAISED AFFECTED NOT JUST US, BUT EVERYBODY. I MEAN, IT'S GOING ACROSS DARRINGTON.AND IT WAS IT WAS TERRIBLE, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT SUFFER FROM ALLERGIES AND SINUSES. IT WAS JUST COMING IN THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THE FINE DUST, WHICH JUST I MEAN, IF THE& WERE PULLING OUT BIG DUMP TRUCK& FULL OF DIRT FOR MONTHS AT A TIME. AND SO IT WAS A REAL NUISANCE FOR A LONG TIME THERE. MY ELDERLY FATHER LIVES WITH ME. HE'S 90 YEARS OLD AND HE SAID, I CAN'T STAND IT. I WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE AND GET OUT OF HERE. AND NOW I HAVE TO TELL HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK, AND I KNOW HE'S NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT. RATHER THAN HAVE THE T3 DEVELOPMENT OF ALL THOSE HOMES THERE, WE'D RATHER JUST HAVE IT AS A BUFFER, JUST LEAVE& IT DESERT LAND INSTEAD OF PUTTING MORE HOMES THERE. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S OUT OF MY CONTROL. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GOT TO SPEAK UP. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE GREAT GUIDANC& BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS IN MOTION BACK IN THE 60S OR EARLY 70S. RIGHT. WELL, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I USED TO BE A REAL ESTATE APPRAISER AND WE DID APPRAISALS& OUT HERE. AND SO WE KNOW THE DIFFICULTY THAT YOU HAVE. I DID APPRAISAL FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE FROM HONG KONG, FROM AUSTRALIA. IT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE. I HAD A LADY CALL ME FROM NEW YORKK& CITY, FROM BROOKLYN, AND SHE HAD TWO LOTS THAT WERE FURTHER OUT OFF OF HORIZON. AND SHE ASKED ME, CAN YOU DO AN APPRAISAL ON THE PROPERTY? AND I DID THAT, AND I HAD TO TELL HER THAT HER LOTS WERE WORTH $225. THE APPRAISALS WERE $200 EACH. YEAH.
SO AND THE SAME THING IS EXISTING HERE, WHERE I'M SUREE& YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY RUN INTO THAT. BUT THERE'S PEOPLE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, SOME EVEN INTERNATIONAL, THAT WERE EITHER GIVEN THOSE PROPERTIESS& BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TO BEGINN& WITH ARE DECEASED BY NOW. THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S BEEN. I MEAN, MY DAD WAS APPROACHED IN 1968, I BELIEVE 67. WE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO AT THE TIME. WE CAME ALL THE WAY OVER HERE TO THE GOLF COURSE, THE COUNTRY CLUB FOR A MEETING. THEY WALKED OUT WITH A TOASTER, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY PROPERTY HERE. THERE'S NOTHING OUT HERE. AND NOW HERE WE ARE ALL THESE YEARS LATER AND WE'RE LIVING HERE ANYWAY. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO. I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY CONCERN BECAUSE OF THAT. AND DO YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE AS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE& ON THAT THOSE STREETS COULD MAYBE DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT THERE OF THOSE OFF& THAT T3 DISTRICT, THAT T3 ZONING AND I THINK EARLIER, LIKE ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES THAT'S INVOLVEDD& WITH THE PROJECT, I THINK I MEAN, THERE WAS I THINK THAT'SS& WHY WE PUT NOTICES AND I THINK THERE WAS MAIL OUTS THAT GO OUT& WELL, WE ONLY GOT ONE MAIL OUT, WHICH WAS THE ONE THAT LED ME HERE TODAY. BUT TO YOUR POINT, SIR, I MEAN, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO REGARDLESS IF WE WERE TO ZONE IT OR NOT, FOLKS CAN STILL, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP AND STILL DEVELOP IT, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY ONCE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STARTS UP. PEOPLEE& WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP REGARDLESS. EXACTLY. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE UTILITIES PUT IN. AND ACCORDING TO THE MAP THAT T3 BEHIND MY HOUSE HAS A PONDING AREA RIGHT THERE. SO THERE'S ONLY THAT ONE LOT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF I CAN POINT TO IT RIGHT ALONG HERE ON KINGSTON, RIGHT THESE THIS RIGHT HERE DOESN'T EXIST. THAT'S A POND. THAT'S A POND. ALL THAT BLUE AREA RIGHT THERE. THAT'S A PONDING AREA. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE ONLY GOING TOO& HAVE KINGSTON RIGHT HERE. AND WHO'S GOING TO PUT IN ELECTRIC SEWAGE WATER. EACH INDIVIDUAL
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HOMEOWNER CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S BEYOND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE ECONOMICALLY. SO MY HOPE IS THAT THEY'LL LOOK AT THAT AND SAY NO& IT'S NOT WORTH DEVELOPING HERE. SO THE HOPE FOR THE CITY IS THAT THIS WILL SPUR DEVELOPMENT AND BRING LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS TO TRY TOO& GET THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THERE. LIKE THE CITY IS GOING TO START BY DEVELOPING THAT TRANSIT STATION AND GET THOSE STREETS DEVELOPED, RIGHT, SO THAT WE CAN GET ACCESS IN THERE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GET IT GOING SO THAT WE CAN START. RIGHT..& BECAUSE I KNOW HORIZON DEVELOPMENT PURCHASED ONE OF THE LOTS BEHIND HIM, AND THE OTHER ONE'S OWNED PRIVATELY BY A PERSON OUT OF HOUSTON, TEXAS. SO I MAKE CONTACT HERE. MY OTHER CONCERN WAS I HAVE A 100 POUND SULCATA TORTOISE THAT BURROWED UNDER THE GROUND, AND TO THAT LOT THAT'S IN THE T3 AREA. SO THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR HIM. YEAH. ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY CONCERN. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.THANK YOU. MR. EXCUSE ME. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT TO LEAVE. AND LAST& THING I'LL SAY, SIR, IS WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DUST, BUT IF IT'S GETTING REALLY BAD, LET US& KNOW SO THAT WE CAN CONTACT THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN SEE IF THEY CAN START WATERING THE DIRT A LITTLE MORE. BUT FOR NOW, IT'SS& NOT BAD BECAUSE THEY FINISHEDD& THE POND. THEY ALREADY PUT THE ROCK WALL AROUND IT AND THE FENCING. NOW IT'S JUST WHAT'S CREATED HERE ALONG DARRINGTON. BUT THAT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. WE CAN WE CAN ALSO CONTACT THEM AS WELL TO TRY TO CONTROLL& SOME OF THAT DUST BY WATERING IT. OKAY, THAT'D BE GREAT. YES,& SIR. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING. YES, SIR. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HECTOR AGUILAR. WE OWN PROPERTY HERE. YES, MR. AGUILAR. YEAH. AND CONGRATULATIONS. WE'RE HAPPY FOR THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WEE& KNEW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THE QUESTION FOR US WAS HOW AND EVERYBODY CAN DO REALLY WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TOO& INVEST MONEY. BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY PUTS SOMETHING TERRIBLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO. I MEAN, WHEREAS IF THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY NICE, THEN THERE'S A LOT MORE INCENTIVE FOR US TOO& PUT MONEY. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT, THERE IS A QUESTION A LITTLE BIT MOREE& THOUGHT ABOUT THE UTILITIES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW OTHER PLACES WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE AN ISSUE. LIKE IF I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY EXAMPLE, IF I OWN SOME OF THOSE LOTS AND I HAVE T& BRING THE STREET FROM WAY OVER THERE TO HERE, AND I MEAN, THROUGH ALL OF THESE LOTS, THAT'S AN ISSUE. LIKE FOR ONE OWNER, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU COORDINATE SO THAT IF THIS IS THESE ARE MY LOTS, BUT THERE'S TEN LOTS TO GET FROM THERE TOO& HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. I MEAN, NO WAY. JUST TOO& THINK OUT HOW WE GET FROM HERE TO THERE. YES, SIR. WITH THE, THE POSITIVE HERE IS THAT THESE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE KIND OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED INFILL BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE IN BETWEEN AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED. SO LIKE AROUND DARRINGTON THERE'S ALREADY LIKE I BELIEVE THERE'S A WATER MAIN AND SEWER ALREADY THERE. SO THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS EXTEND IT TO THOSE PROPERTIES. AND THEN A& FAR AS ELECTRIC AND ALL THAT, A& YOU SAW, LIKE THE FIRST LIGHT AND ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING HERE, IT'S COMING THIS WAY. SO ALL THOSE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY IN PLACE THERE. IT'S JUST EXTENDING THEM TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. YEAH. IF THERE'S A WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK OUT TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE& SOME OWNERS BETWEEN THEM AND ME, WHOEVER ME IS, WHOEVER THEM ARE, RIGHT. THAT MAY NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING. SO YOU KNOW. YES, SIR I UNDERSTAND LIKE LIKE LIKE I SAID LIKE WE'LL THE CITY IS GOING TO START WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL SPUR IT TO GET THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND THEN GET GET IT GOING. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S OUR HOPE THAT WE CAN GET. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO 14 ZERO 12 CLIFF ROAD. MY WIFE AND I HAVE THE HOUSE THAT ABUTS RODMAN AT THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE AREA UNDER DISCUSSION. CAN YOU GET CLOSERR& TO THE MICROPHONE? SORRY. OKAY. DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PONDING AREA, ACTUALLY, PRIOR T& THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PONDING AREA, THERE WERE MASSIVE PILES OF DIRT. THAT, OF COURSE, ARE WHAT IMPACTED THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES ON HIGLEY CIRCLE. BUT ITT& ALSO IMPACTED ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WHO'S WHO'S REAR YARDS ARE BUT RODMAN AND THERE WAS ZERO COMPLIANCE WITH ANY GRAVEL TRUCK TARPAULIN COVERS DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I COULD LOOK OUT OUR BEDROOM WINDOW AND SEE THE TRUCKS BOUNCING ACROSS THE OPEN LAND, WITH THE DIRT JUST FLYING OUT O& THEM. THEY'RE ALL EQUIPPED WITH TARPS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BY LAW, ZERO COMPLIANCE. SO I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD BE SURE THAT THERE'S 100% COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE IT IMPACTED US TERRIBLY. OUR HOUSE WAS I MEAN, YOU COULD SEE DUST BLOWING THROUGH WINDOWS THAT WE& HAD TAPED CLOSED. IT WAS SO BAD FROM THOSE TRUCKS. AND NOW THEY'VE DUG IT ALL OUT. IT'S A PONDING AREA, SO IT'S DONE. BUT WHEN THE WHOLE REST OF THE
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PROJECT STARTS, IT'S GOING TOO& IMPACT THE REST OF US IN A SIGNIFICANT FASHION. AND SO I'D ASK THAT YOU WATCH OUT FOR THAT. YES, SIR. THANKS. ANYONE ELSEE& WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO. MYY& NAME IS JOSUE HERRERA, SO WE OWN SOME PROPERTY HERE AND I HAVE A& COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO YOUR HOPE IS THAT ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS, THAT WILL KIND OF SPARK THE OWNERS TOO& BUILD THE HOMES OR TO BUILD WHATEVER THIS IS GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE DEVELOPER THAT JUST KIND OF LAND GRABS EVERYTHING AND DEVELOPS EVERYTHING. SO IF OUR PARCELS, I DON'T THINK OURS DOES. BUT IF IT LANDS IN THE PONDING ZONE, WHAT& DOES THAT HAPPEN? ARE YOU GUYSS& GOING TO BUY THEM IN THE PONDING ZONE? YEAH. SO LIKE IN THOSE BLUE AREAS ARE YOU GUYS JUST GOING TO BUY THEM OUTRIGHT OR. NO ZONE IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND SO IF IT'S ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY THEY BOUGHT IT. YEAH OKAY OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH. LIKE I SAID I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE OURS ANYWAY. YES, SIR. JUST TOO& CLARIFY, THE CITY CANNOT BUILD ON ANYTHING THAT THEY DON'T OWN, SO THEY CAN ONLY BUILD ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY. AND THE PONDING AREA ISS& ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY. SO OKAY, SO THEN AS FAR AS THAT, LIKE WE CAN CHOOSE TO DEVELOP, I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE IS EVERYBODY'S GOING TOO& KIND OF JUST WAIT, BECAUSE AS HE WAS SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TOO& BUILD A $400,000 HOUSE NEXT TOO& SOMEBODY WHO'S BUILDING A DUPLEX FOR, YOU KNOW, $120,000. RIGHT? SO IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY, I GUESS, COVENANTS. COVENANTS. YEAH, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINIMAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINIMAL PRICE RANGE. RIGHT. NOT ONLY IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT HERE, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AROUND WHERE IF YOU BRING, LET'S SAY, LOW INCOME HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR QUADRUPLEXES, WHERE WE KNOW MORE LIKE MULTI-USE FAMILIES COME, THE VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO BRING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES DOWN AS WELL. SO WE OWN LAND HERE, BUT I ALSO LIVE IN THE GOLF COURSE, SO I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT NOT ONLY THIS, BUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL. SO HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE LIKE THAT? WELL, I MEAN LIKE MR. GRANADA SAID, THAT WE DIDN'T DO A STUDY BASED ON THAT. RIGHT? O& WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN.RIGHT. OR OUR HOPE IS JUST LIKE I SAID, THAT WE START TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT. AND THE OTHER THIN& TOO, IS THAT THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE AREAS AS FAR AS SETBACKS, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL FORM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE. TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR CONVENTIONAL CODE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU PRETTY MUCH BUILD WHATEVER. IN THIS CASE, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND IT'S VERY OUTLINED AS TO THE FORM, THE FORM ITSELF, NOT NOT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, BUT THE FORM ITSELF. AND THESE FORMS ARE GOING TOO& COME OUT PRIOR TO THE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN THAT'S THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL& YES, SIR. IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL JUNE THE 10TH. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M TOTALLY FOR ALL THIS STUFF, BUT I MYSELF, I WAS LIKE, WELL, I NEED TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO LAND BECAUSE IF IT'S MIXED USE, THEN I WAS LIKE, WELL, I'M GOING TO PUT A BUSINESS THERE, AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN I'M GOING TO PUT SOMETHING RESIDENTIAL. BUT I NEED TO KNOW THE VALUE OF WHAT'S GOING TOO& HAPPEN, RIGHT? EVEN MYSELF. AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE HOLDING OUT, BECAUSE IF WE LAND SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S MORE DENSE. WELL, I SAID, I'LL JUST PUT A PRIMARY CARE CLINIC THERE AND IT CAN BE& USED BY THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE RATIOS& OF PATIENTS TO PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS. SO WE WERE GOING TOO& DO THAT. BUT THEN YOU ALSO KIND OF HAVE TO KNOW, LIKE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE POPULATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SERVING AS WELL. SO WHO'S GOING TO BE MOVING IN? IS IT GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MEDICAID, MEDICARE, PRIVATE INSURANCE? LIKE I SAID, ALL OF THIS HAS TO PLAY A PART. AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. SO TO YOUR POINT, SIR, BECAUSE THIS IS PRIVATE OWNERSHIP, IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY STOP THEM. WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE THEM DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT OR WHATEVER? IT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT THE FOLKS THA& OWN THE PROPERTIES WANT TO DO. AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT WHATT& HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU. BUT I MEAN, WE, WE, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO, TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT BY, BY STARTING WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF WEE& CAN GET THAT GOING AND SEE WHAT KIND OF PATTERN THAT'S GOING TO& OCCUR. WOULD YOU FORESEE THATT& ONCE THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTS, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR ONE OWNER,,& IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT. FOR MULTIPLE OWNERS? YEAH. YOU CAN PUT IN THE STREET THE SERVICES AND EVERYTHING, BUT FOR ONE OWNER TO PAY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, I DON'T I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOING T& WAIT. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT IT OUT. RIGHT. LIKE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. AND FRANKLY THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES T& DO IT. RIGHT. THE OTHER THING TOO, IS THAT THAT, LIKE I TOLD THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME IN FIRST, IS THAT THE CITY IS INTERESTED ALSO IN PURCHASINGG& SOME OF THOSE LOTS. SO, SO FOR SOME OF THE FAIR MARKET VALUE. CORRECT? YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT.
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YES, SIR. YEAH. I WOULD JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR YOU AND THE PUBLIC, SO LIKE CITIES CAN'T PUBLIC ENTITIES CANNOT REGULATE THE MARKET. RIGHT. SO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING IS A PRIVATE SECTOR, RIGHT. WHATEVER THE MARKET BECOMES, THE MARKET BECOMES THE CITY'S. IF I'M IF I'M SERVING AS A CONSULTANT, I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST TRYING TOO& SPUR CERTAIN POPULATIONS RIGHT VERSUS OTHERS. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU GET IN TROUBLE& RIGHT? SO, HEY, THEY'RE THEY'RE EXCLUDING GENTRIFICATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT SO MUCH JUST EXCLUDING PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE THERE. CORRECT. STEERING, BLOCKBUSTING.RIGHT? YEAH. STEERING A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL, CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC LEVEL. AND THE REASON THAT I, THAT I BROUGHT THAT QUESTION UP IS, LET'S SAY THEY TELL YOU AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE. RIGHT. YOUR PROPERTY IS WORTH $30,000 OKAY. AND SOME PEOPLE SELL AND THAT'S FINE. BUT THENN& YOU START SEEING THESE 4 ORR& $500,000 CONDOS AND REALLY, REALLY NICE AREA. WELL, THEN THE PEOPLE THAT HELD OUT ARE GOING TO SELL THEIR LAND FOR 100,000,& NOT FOR 30. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, IS THAT GOING TO DELAY DEVELOPMENT BASED ON EVERYBODY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE PLAYING CHICKEN TO SEE WHO'S GOING TO BUILD FIRST. RIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT'S WHY THAT'S MY WORRY. I MEAN, IN MY OTHER HOME, IT'S THAT'S FINE. BUT OVER HERE IT'S LIKE IT'S A LITTLE TOUCH AND GO, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, INVEST ALL THIS MONEY AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BRING MY VALUE DOWN. RIGHT. SO BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. RIGHT. SO I THINK THOSE ARE JUST SOME ISSUES THAT MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON IRONING OUT AS A COMMUNITY AS WELL. THE ONL& OTHER THING I COULD, COULD, COULD OFFER, SIR, IS THAT THE CITY IS INCENTIVIZING DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. SO FOR ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT COME& IN HERE OR WHATEVER, THERE IS INCENTIVES TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THIS, TO THIS PLAN& AND THEN TO GO ABOVE THAT. SO THERE ARE INCENTIVES FOR THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET IT GOING. LIKE I SAID, WE ALL WE COULD DO IS TRY TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE CAN'T FORCE IT. YEAH I UNDERSTAND SIR OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC SEE RESTRICTIVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS FOR EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE ZONING TYPES T3, T4, T5 JUST SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A& IDEA OF WHAT'S COMING AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SEE WHAT COVENANTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YES,,& SIR. SO WE HAVE A DRAFT ALREADY THAT MR. ABEL CITY PROVIDED ON OUR WEBSITE. AND EVENTUALLY, ONCE IT'S CODIFIED COMPLETELY, WE'LL HAVE IT ON THE ON THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. I WOULD JUST CAUTION AGAINST THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT CALLED COVENANTS. RIGHT. CITIES CAN'T PUT COVENANTS ON PROPERTY, BUT THEY'RE ZONING ZONINGG& REGULATIONS. CORRECT. THERE YOU GO. SO SORRY. YEAH, WELL, WE'LL BE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING. BESIDES YOU, ALL YOU GUYS WILL BE THERE. YES, WE'LL BE THERE TOMORROW. SO AGAIN, FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FROM 6 TO 8 AT THE AT THE SENIOR SENIOR CENTER.
YES, MA'AM. THIS WILL BE FOR IF& THEY HAVE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YEAH. WE'LL DO A WE'LL DO THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS WE'LL HAVE SOME EXHIBITS LIKE ACTUAL HARD COPY MAPS THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE. OKAY. YES MA'AM. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODYY& ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MATTHEW GARDELLA. I SERVED ON THIS PLANNING COMMISSION THIS AUGUST WOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE YEARS AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A PACKED HOUSE LIKE THIS. SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT. I WANT TOO& PROVIDE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS FOR SOME OF OUR NEW MEMBERS, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. THIS PARCEL, COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE LAYOUT FOR THEE& REZONING? YEAH. SO THIS PARCELL& IS PART OF WHAT WE CALL OUR TERS BOARD, WHICH STANDS FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. AND SO THIS GOVERNING BODY IT'S A TEN MEMBER BOARD WHICH INCLUDES& THE CURRENT HORIZON CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THREE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING THE PRECINCT THREE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO IS CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR, I BELIEVE, AND THE COUNTY JUDGE. AND SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC RULES THAT WOULD GOVERN WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITHIN THIS ZONE. AND SO SINCE THIS ZONE WOULD INCLUDE A TAX INCREMENT, THAT MONEY WOULD GO BACK TO BE REINVESTED INTO THIS ZONE. SO CURRENTLY WE ARE IN STAGE THREE OF A THREE POINT PLAN. THE FIRST STAGE WAS THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES, WHICH WERE APPROVED BY THE FORMER CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS AND APPROVING THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES. WE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS HOSTED BY ABLE CITY HERE AGAIN AT THE SENIOR CENTER, JUST HOW WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SHOW UP
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TODAY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO ALSO ATTEND THAT COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WIL& BE HAPPENING FOR THIS, FOR THIS PROPOSED REZONING. LET'S SEE. AND THEN I WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OUR SENIORS ARE WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE PARTICULAR OFFERINGS FOR THEM WITHIN THIS PROPOSED REZONING. AND SO WE CAN SEE HERE AT THE UPPER LEVEL, II& KNOW WE HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERN& ABOUT THE T THREE, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE HOUSES RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO CREATING SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR SOME SORT OF BOARD THAT CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST TRANSITION FROM OUR TOD TO THOSE PREEXISTING HOUSES, BUT AS WELL AS OUR T3 OR T4 DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE PREDOMINANTLY TOWNHOUSES, ARE GOING TO PROVIDE BETTER OFFERINGS FOR SENIORS THAT ARE REALLY LOOKING TOO& DOWNSIZE, RIGHT, RATHER THAN A LARGER PROPERTY WITH A LARGER YARD. SO THIS TOD, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE. WE WANT TO HAVE 4 OR 5 STORY BUILDINGS, GROUND LEVEL SHOPS, UPPER LEVEL APARTMENT UNITS, OFFICE SPACES, EVERYTHING. AND SO WHAT THIS REQUIRES IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY STAYS ENGAGED AND STAYS INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVING TONIGHT'S REZONING DOES NOT APPROVE CONSTRUCTIONN& DOES NOT APPROVE. BEGINNING TOO& BUILD ANYTHING. IT LAYS THE GROUNDWORK FOR WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITHIN THIS ZONE. SO FOR PROPERTY OWNERS HERE WHO MAY BE FEARFUL THAT TOMORROW WE'RE STARTING CONSTRUCTION. NOW, THIS IS PART OF PROBABLY A 510 YEAR PLAN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP RIGHT HERE, WE SEE THE DESMOND COCHRAN PARK ACROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE WHAT WOULD BE OUR CIVIC CENTER, BUT THE GREEN AREA RIGHT ABOVE IT, THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER CIVIC SPACE, WHICH WOULD BE THE HORIZON CITY VERSION OF SAN JACINTO PLAZA THAT WE ALL KNOW FROM DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. SO THIS ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS AREA WHAT WE WANTT& IT TO BE. WE'RE NOT THE CITY OF& EL PASO, WE'RE NOT AUSTIN, WE'RE NOT NEW YORK. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS. AND SO AS A BOARD TONIGHT, YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER APPROVE THIS REZONING AND SEND IT TOO& CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. OR YOU CAN POST POST THE ITEM OR SEND TO CITY COUNCIL WITH AMENDMENTS. SO DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO APPROVE EXACTLY WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. BUT THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT IN THE WORKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WIT& OUR PRIOR CITY COUNCILS, AND AGAIN FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT OWN LOTS WITHIN THIS LAND. I WOULD ADVISE YOU T& GO TO HORIZON CITY.ORG ALL OF THIS, THESE DOCUMENTS, ALL OFF& THE MAPS, THEY ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION. AND SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT A PIECE OF LAND THAT I OWN. WHATT& IS IT GOING TO BE REZONED TO? AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS PROCESS AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO VISIT HORIZON CITY.ORG. SCROLL TO THE VERY BOTTOM. FROM THERE YOU'LL SEE MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDAS. YOU'LL CLICK IT. IT'LL TAKE YOU TO BOARD BOOK PREMIER, AND FROM THERE YOU CAN SEE ALL OF TONIGHT'S MATERIALS SO THAT AS A CITIZEN, YOU ARE INFORMED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TONIGHT. AND SO OTHER THAN THAT, I ALSO ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, MEMBERS OF& THE PUBLIC, TO ATTEND THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE PERFECT. BUT THE MORE ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THE BETTER WEE& CAN MAKE THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. AND SO WITH THAT, I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S YOUR MOTION. STILL SEND MR. KELLY. YES. SECOND. MR. JOLLEY I PADILLA, I BORREGO AND PARKER I OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO WE CAN MOVE BACK TO ITEM FOU& B WHICH IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION O& THE RESUBMITTED REPLAT APPLICATION FOR HORIZON MANOR UNIT THREE REPLAT A CASE NUMBER RP 002460 2020, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT 19, BLOCK NINE HORIZON MANOR, UNIT THREE, TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 7.9365 ACRES PLUS MINUS. APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY CADD CONSULTING. POSTPONED ATT& THE APRIL 21ST, 2025 PNC MEETING. I THINK IT WILL TAKEE& SOME TIME THOUGH. GOOD SEEING YOU. YES. PRESENTATION. WE'LL
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WAIT FOR MR. RUBIO. PACKED HOUSE. IS IT PACKED HOUSE? YEAH. SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CRUNCH. YOU'RE COMING IN. YOU. IT LOOKS VERY PROMISING RIGHT THERE. OKAY. SO IT'S.AND THIS ONE FOR ITEM FOUR, BE THAT MR. JIMENEZ SHOW UP. I'M SORRY. MR. JIMENEZ FROM KERR CONSULTING FOR ITEM FOUR. BE ON THE HORIZON MANOR ON HORIZON MANOR. NO. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN ON AND OFF FOR ABOUT 2 OR 33& YEARS NOW. OH, REALLY? YES, FOR BE FOR BE, SIR. HORIZON. JUST ANOTHER UPDATE. SORRY TO LET YOU KNOW, BUT WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE PROPERTY BOUGHT YET.& WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO BUY THAT THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BECOME A POND OR IT'& ALREADY A POND. IT'S ACTING AS A POND, BUT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS A POND. SO WE'RE CLOSE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. IS HE ASKING FOR THE EXTENSIONS OR FOR SO? SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, SIR? IS, IS THEY'RE CHANGING THE SUBDIVISION SO THEY'LL HAVE TOO& DROP THIS APPLICATION AND THEN SUBMIT A NEW ONE FOR THE NEW CONFIGURATION OF THE SUBDIVISION OF THE OF THE REPLAT. SO HE HAS TO FILE A NEW APPLICATION. CORRECT. SO IN ESSENCE WE CAN.
YEAH. WELL BASED ON WE ACTUALLY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. IT'S REALLY UP TO THE APPLICANT. AND THE APPLICANT WISH TO KEEP IT ONN& HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. YES. BECAUSE O& THAT REQUIREMENT, WE HAVE TO KEEP IT ON UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO DROP IT. SO POSTPONE THIS. OR HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO POSTPONE IT? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO MOVED. POSTPONE. ITEMM& FOUR. BE. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. LET ME HAVE MY MIC ON COMMISSION. OKAY. JOLLY. HI. HI.
HI, BORREGO. HI. OKAY, SO WE CA& GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM FOUR C DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR RANCHO UNIT 19, CASE NUMBER SDP 25 0003 LEGALLY IS TRAVIS A PORTION OF LAKE CLARK SURVEY NUMBER 297 TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 16.576 ACRES PLUS MINUS. APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY REPRESENTATIVE TRE& AND ASSOCIATES. GOOD EVENING,,& CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CHAIR AND TO THE VICE CHAIR FOR ELECTION. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR RANCHO UNIT 19. THIS IS LOCATED WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND SOUTH OF CLARK PLACE. THE REQUEST IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR 85 RESIDENTIAL LOT SUBDIVISION. AS FAR AS ACCESS. ACCESS IS PROPOSED FROM CLARK AND WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AS FAR AS PARKLAND. DEDICATION AND FEES.
THEY'RE REQUIRED IN THIS SUBDIVISION TO HAVE 0.5 OF AN ACRE OF DEDICATION OF PARKLAND.
HOWEVER, COUNCIL DID APPROVE A PARK DEVELOPER'S PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT TO ACTUALLY DO IMPROVEMENTS, AND IN THAT AGREEMENT, THEY ACTUALLY WENT ABOVE WHAT WAS REQUIRED AND PROVIDED QUITE A BIT OF AMENITIES FOR THE TWO PARKS THA& ARE IN THE AREA, THE PARK. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS CLARK. CLARK. OKAY. VERY NICE. SOO& THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TOO& SATISFY IT. THERE'S THREE WAYS THEY CAN SATISFY THROUGH THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS PARKLAND DEDICATION AND FEES. THEY CAN D& ALL FEES IF COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THAT. BUT IN THIS CASE THEY OPTED TO DO IMPROVEMENTS AS OPPOSED TO FEES, IMPROVEMENTS O& THE EXISTING PARKS ON THE MUCH NEEDED. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CODE, AS FAR AS THE STANDARDS FOR PARKS IS VERY LOW. ALL THEY& ALL THAT WE REQUIRE IS REALLY JUST TURF. AND THAT'S PRETTYY& MUCH IT. SO WITH THIS WE'RE GETTING ACTUAL MORE AMENITIES. THEY'RE PUTTING IN LIKE SWING SETS. THEY'RE PUTTING IN. WHAT ELSE ARE THEY PUTTING IN BASKETBALL COURTS, PICKLEBALL COURT COURTS. AND THE AND IN THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTING AS WELL TO THIS. SO THE CITY IS GOING TOO& CONTRIBUTE ABOUT $248,000.
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THAT'S GOING TO GET THEM A PARKING IN THE PARK, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO PARKING. SO PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON THE STREET. IT'S ROLL CURVES. SO IT'S EVEN MORE, MORE DANGEROUS. SO ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE PARKING TO PROVIDE PARKING IN THAT AREA. SO QUITE A QUITE A FEW IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING. RIGHT. VERY NICE. SO ON& THE LEFT IS THE AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT. AND THEN TOO& THE RIGHT THE ZONING MAP. IT'SS& ALL ZONED R NINE. AND THESE ARE THE LAST REMAINING SUBDIVISIONS OF RANCHO YOU GOT COMING 17, 18, 19, 20 AND 21. AND THEN THAT'SS& ALL THE PROPERTY PRETTY MUCH.AND IT'S ALL FOLLOWING THE LAND STUDY. THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE& IN THIS CASE. CORRECT. THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP AGAIN. AND THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. SO IN YELLOW IS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE PROPOSED RIGHT OFF& WAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO 522& FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS INTERNALLY WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION. AND THESE ARE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR NOT NECESSARILY FOR MR. PADILLA FOR, FOR MISS PARKER. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CROSS SECTIONS AND SUBDIVISIONS. I CAN DO A QUICK BREAKDOWN IF YOU WANT ME TO. NO, IT'S OKAY, IT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S THE TOP IS CLERICAL PLACE.& IT'S A MINOR. IT'S GOING TO BE A 76 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THENN& THE BOTTOM ONE IS THE INTERNAL STREETS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR STREETS, 52 FOOT RIGHTS OF WAY. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, AS FAR AS AGENCYY& REVIEW, THERE WAS NO ADVERSE OR PENDING COMMENTS. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BASED ON MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR 4.2 PLAT REQUIREMENTS. SOO& WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER OKAY.
WHAT'S YOUR COUNTRY? I ASSOCIATES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME ISS& KAREN. I'M WITH TRAIN ASSOCIATES AND WE AGREE WITH ALL STAFF COMMENTS. MOVE TO APPROVE. DO I& HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT MOTION. YEAH OKAY. CAN I CALLL& THE COMMISSION JOLLY I PADILLA I CORAL I BORREGO I OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MOTION PASS. THIS WILL. TRY TO GET HIM. SO.
OKAY SO THE. 2014 CORRECT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 14 DISCUSSION RECOMMENDATION ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN APPLICATION FOR RANCHO UNIT 18 CASE NUMBER SDF 25 00022. I LOS& MY WAS THERE TWO AND TWO. AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE RECORDING PLAT. IT'S LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LEE CLARK'S SURVEY. NUMBER 297 TOWN& OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 17.354 ACRES,& PLUS OR MINUS. AND THE APPLICANT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE TREE AND ASSOCIATES. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER& DAVID REES, PLANNING SPECIALIST& WITH HORIZON CITY. THE NEXT ITE& ON THE AGENDA IS A FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR RANCHO UNIT 18. THE PRELIMINARY ON THIS ONE THAT WAS APPROVED ON PNC ON MARCH 17TH, 2025, AND ON& CITY COUNCIL JUNE 10TH, 2025. THE LOCATION FOR RANCHO UNIT 18.
IT IS GOING TO BE ON WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND SOUTH OF CLARK. THE REQUEST IS FOR A FINAL PLAT OF 89 LOT RESIDENTIAL LOTS. SUBDIVISION. THE ACCESS IT IS GOING TO BE THROUGH SOUTH AND WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD FOR THE PARKLAND. IT HAS BEEN SATISFIED THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEVELOPER'S PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. SO ON& THE LEFT WE DO HAVE THE AERIAL OF THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS STILL A VACANT LAND. ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE THE ZONING MAP, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN R NINE. SO. NEXT IS GOING TO BE THE LOCATION MAP, WHICH IS GOING TO& BE WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND SOUTH OF CLARK. THIS IS GOING T& BE THE SUBDIVISION HIGHLIGHTED
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IN YELLOW. IT IS GOING TO BE THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION ON BLUE. ON THE LIGHT BLUE. THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RIGHT OF WAY SUBDIVISION. THESE ARE GOING TO& BE RIGHT OF WAYS. CROSS SECTION.WE HAVE A 76FT STREET RIGHT OFF& WAY ON CLERICAL PLACE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A MINOR ARTERIAL.
AND WE HAVE THE 52 FOOT RIGHT O& WAY, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL SUB COLLECTOR STREET. ON OUR AGENCY REVIEW. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY NO ADVERSE OR PENDING COMMENTS. FOR COMMENDATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF UNIT 18 FINAL BASED ON THE APPLICATION MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR SUBDIVISION, APPLICATION, PROCEDURE AND APPROVAL PROCESS IN SECTION 4.2 PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIREMENTS AND SECTION 4.3 FINAL PLAT REQUIREMENTS. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ISS& THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK I READ THAT THE COUNTY HAD SOME ISSUES OR CONCERNS REGARDING STORMWATER. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO TAKE CARE OF THE WATER THROUGH ANOTHER SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST OF THAT. AND ACTUALLY THE COUNTY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION JURISDICTION BECAUSE THEY WERE IT WAS TOWARDS THE WEST, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. RIGHT.
IF I'M MISTAKEN, THEY ARE GOING TO BE TAKING THAT WATER TO THIS POND RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE TO THE WEST OF THE SUBDIVISION. RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. IT'S & GOOD PRACTICE. HI EVERYONE. MYY& NAME IS DENISE HERNANDEZ AND I'M ON BEHALF OF TRAIN ASSOCIATESS& AND I AGREE WITH ALL COMMENTS. MOVE TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. DROPPED. WE HAVE AA& MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. TOM I, I, I, I AND I. OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO TAKE US TO NUMBER FIVE. WHETHER IT IS
[5. OTHER BUSINESS]
OTHER BUSINESSES. WE HAVE ITEM FIVE A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON APRIL 21ST, 2025. DO WE HAVE THE MINUTES? YEAH. DO WE I DON'T HAVE I HAVE THE MAY ONES. I HAVE THE MARCH ONES, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE APRIL COPY. OH, I DO HAVE THE APRIL. APRIL AND. MAY. COPY, YES I HAVE, I ALREADY READ THEM. OKAY. OKAY. I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUS& I WASN'T HERE. GWEN. THERE YOU GO. I EVEN IF I WASN'T HERE. I GUESS IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN JOE. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, I LOOKED. LOOKING UPSTAIRS. YEAH. I WAS LIKE, I WASN'T HERE. AND JUST T& MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR BE ON THE FROM THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM. YEAH. THE ITEM WE'RE LOOKING AT ITEM FIVE. THANK YOU SIR. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ITEM FIVE EIGHT. WE'RE HEREE& RIGHT NOW. OH NO, I TOLD YOU I KNOW THAT ON TODAY'S. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO THE ACTUAL ONE FROM THE DAY OF. RIGHT, WHICH IS APRIL 21ST. APRIL 21ST.YEAH. AND I'M LOOKING AT APRIL 20TH, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE DISCUSSION POINT FROM THAT DAY, WHICH IS WHICH ONE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO JUST THE WHOLE AGENDA.
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YES. GOTCHA. THE WHOLE AGENDA THAT WE'RE PINPOINTING ONE. NO NO NO. YEAH. EVERYTHING.WELL, THIS IS WHEN WE TALKED WITH BORDERLINE RIGHT. THIS IS WHEN. YES. THE CYCLING GROUPS CAME. OH YES. YEAH. YOU FAMILIAR WITH. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IT WAS YOUR REPLAT AS WELL.
CORRECT. CORRECT. YES. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 21ST? A MOTION TO APPROVE I WAS PRESENT, YES. SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. MOTION. AND A SECOND ALL.
DO YOU WANT TO PULL THE PERMISSION TO PULL JOLLY I PADILLA I BORREGO I SHOULD I ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T HERE OR WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. THERE'S A MOTION SO IN A SECOND SO I. OKAY THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE B DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON MARCH 24TH, 2025. AND I ALSO HAVE A COPY FOR YOU THIS. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THOSE? YES, BECAUSE THERE WAS JUST ANN& ERROR ON THAT ONE. THERE WAS??& YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER GARDEN AT THE TIME REQUESTED THAT WEE& BRING HIM BACK BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT SMALL DISCREPANCY, THEE& SMALL DISCREPANCY ON IT. SO.
OKAY. AND THEN THE DISCREPANCY. ON MARCH, WHAT WAS THE DISCREPANCY? I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER ANYMORE. DO YOU REMEMBER MR. RUBIO? YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE HE HE WANTED THE SPECIFIC COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE FOR THE FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE, LIKE, LIKEE& PRETTY MUCH PUT ON THE MINUTES,& MINUTES. RIGHT. WE TYPICALLY SUMMARIZE THE MEETINGS, BUT HE WANTED SPECIFICS ON THE COMMENT& THAT WERE DONE BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING, AND HE'S RIGHT, IT WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED BASED ON& THOSE COMMENTS. SO HE WANTED THOSE COMMENTS ON THERE. WE JUST ADDED THEM. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE. YES, PLEASE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK GLANCE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME. AND THEN THESE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT THEY WANTED MORE IN DETAIL OKAY. YEAH YEAH YEAH. YOU SEE THEY FOLLOW THERE AND IT GIVES THEM OKAY. THANK YOU. CHARGING STATION. YEAH. THEY'RE WAITING FOR US. HOW DOES MARIAH CAREY D& IT. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH 24TH MARCH 24TH, 2025. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. THAT MOTION. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. SO. OKAY. JOLLY A PADILLA A. BORREGO. HI. HI. HI. SO WE CAN MOVE TO ITEM FIVE CC& WHICH IS GOING TO BE WELCOMING OF NEW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, MR. PADILLA. AND THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. WELCOME. SO WE
[6. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
CAN MOVE TO ITEM SIX WHICH ISS& GOING TO BE THE SIX A THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING. IT IS GOING TO BE MONDAY, JULY 21ST, 2025 AT 6 P.M. OKAY. BEING THAT THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND THE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.