[1. CALL TO ORDER; PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE; ESTABLISHMENT OF QUORUM:]
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          OKAY. 6:00. APRIL 21ST. 6 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE CAN START BY FOLLOWING BY RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG O& THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE HAVE A QUORUM. YES, SIR. WE CAN. WE CAN GO AHEAD. NUMBER TWO, WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, THE EXCUSE AND THE EXCUSE. SO TODAY& WE DON'T HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ AND MR. JOLLY, AND MR. JOLLY SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO BE HERE. AND MR. RODRIGUEZ ALSO CONFIRMED THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TOO& EXCUSE ABSENT MEMBERS WITHOUT A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. YOU HAVE A POLITICIAN? YEAH, HERNANDEZ A. 
          BARRIE. A. AVILA. HI. HI. HI. HI. OKAY. ON NUMBER THREE, OPEN FORUM. NO ONE SIGNED UP TOO& 
          [4. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
SPEAK, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING OVER. MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOURR& PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS IS GOING TO BE ITEM FOR A DISCUSSION PRESENTATION BY BORDERLINE COMMUNITY ADVENTURES, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. JAVIERR& PEREZ ON THE BENEFIT OF CYCLING. FOR EVERYONE. JUST DOUBLE CHECK. 
          HELLO, EVERYONE. HI. MY NAME IS JAVIER PEREZ, AND I'M HERE WITH BORDERLINE COMMUNITY ADVENTURES& IN CYCLING AND RUNNING ORGANIZATION. WE ARE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO TALK TOO& YOU. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF OUR MISSION STATEMENT. FOR THIS. OKAY. SO OUR MISSION STATEMENT. WE ARE A MOVEMENT WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL T& CREATE UNITY IN EL PASO, TEXAS. 
          HORIZON JUAREZ AND LAS CRUCES, NEW MEXICO FOR CYCLING, RUNNING AND WALKING TO HELP ENCOURAGE AN ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND PROMOTE GOOD HEALTH AND WELL-BEING. SHARING OUR ENTHUSIASM FOR CYCLING AND RUNNING WITH MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN OF ALL AGES. WE HELP INCREASE THE CYCLING AND RUNNING CLUB'S PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHWEST. HAVIN& A DEEP CONNECTION WITH THE EL PASO, TEXAS AND THE SISTER CITIES OF HORIZON, JUAREZ AND LAS CRUCES, NEW MEXICO. HERE ARE SOME OF THE BIKE SHOPS THAT AND CYCLING CLUBS AND RUNNING CLUBS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US AND HAVE INVITED US TO OUR EVENTS. OUR MOST DEDICATED CYCLING CLUBS IN EL PASO. THEY ARE EL PASO BICYCLE CLUB, LOST DOG, MIDDLEE& OF NOWHERE, CRITICAL MASS. THE RUN CLUBS ARE LIVED THREE ATHLETICS, COFFEE POSSE, QUEEN OF THE MOUNTAIN AND A FEW OTHERS. AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR MORE OF THE CLUBS ARE JOINING U& TO HELP. WE HAVE. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THREE EVENTS. THESE ARE MONTHLY EVENTS HELD THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. OUR FIRST CLUB EVENT HAD ABOUT 200 OR 300 CYCLISTS CYCLES. ALL ALL EVENTS, ALL LEVELS, ABOUT 70 RUNNERS. ON THE SECOND ONE, WE HAD ABOUT 125 TO 150 CYCLISTS AND 30 TO 40 RUNNERS. OUR. ONN& OUR THIRD, WE TEAM UP WITH EL PASO DEL NORTE FOUNDATION ON THE PLAYA DREAM TRAIL, AND WE HAD ABOUT 100 CYCLISTS AND ABOUT 30& RUNNERS. SOME OF OUR GOALS WITH THE ORGANIZATION. OH, THIS IS A VIDEO AGAIN. YEAH, THIS IS A VIDEO OR ONE OF OUR EVENTS. INN& FACT, IT WAS OUR FIRST ONE. AND WHERE YOU CAN SEE HOW WE GATHERED UP. AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE DO AND WOULD LIKE TO DO TOGETHER WITH HORIZON CITY. 
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OKAY. SO ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS IS TO MAKE BOTH, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIES MORE BIKE FRIENDLY, INVOLVING BIKE SHOP AND SOCIAL RIDING GROUPS. THE COMMUNITY REACH OUT AND INVOLVEMENT AND CREATE A FUN, SAFE AND HEALTHY, CLEAN, COOL CITY. WE PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS MAINLY. 
          CYCLING AND RUNNING ARE ONE OFF& THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO INCORPORATE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY INTO DAILY LIFE. WE ENCOURAGE SOCIAL CONNECTION. CYCLING AND RUNNING PROMOTES A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGES SOCIAL INTERACTION. ONE OF THE MAIN, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMIES BECAUSE BY CYCLING AND RUNNING CITIES, BY BY PROMOTING CYCLING AND CITIES, IT GENERATES A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES. CYCLISTS AND RUNNERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO STOP AT SMALL SHOPS, CAFES, MARKETS AND WE THEY INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC AND SALES IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS. CYCLING AND RUNNING FRIENDLY, MAKING CITIES FRIENDLY FOR CYCLING AND RUNNERS SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. INSTILLING VALUES AND SUSTAINABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, HEALTH ANDD& COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IT PROMOTES SUSTAINABLE URBAN DEVELOPMENT, INVESTING IN CYCLING AND RUNNING INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRIBUTES TOO& THE LONG TERM DEVELOPMENT OFF& MORE THAN SUSTAINABLE CITIES. WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAD DIALOGS WITH& SOME OF THE CITIES. ORGANIZATIONS LIKE VISION ZERO, EL PASO COUNTY, THE CITY OF EL PASO LIVE ACTIVE, EL PASO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, CITY OF EL& PASO, AND PASO DEL NORTE TRAIL. THIS IS KIND OF OUR SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE SO FAR FOR THE YEAR. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'SS& FILLED UP. EACH ORGANIZATION TOOK A WRITER OR AN EVENT FOR THAT MONTH, AND WE WOULD LIKE T& PROMOTE THE JULY EVENT HERE IN HORIZON, TEAMING UP WITH A QUALITY SUPPLY WHICH IS VERY NEAR TO THE HORIZON TO HORIZON CITY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER US DOING AN EVENT. IF LEAVING AND FINISHING HERE IN THE HORIZON CITY. ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU TO CONSIDER IS KEEPING THE BIKE LANES CLEAN AND MAKING THEM SAFER. AND THESE ARE TEXDOT BICYCLE SAFETY. YOU KNOW, WE PREPARE FOR THE RIDE, WEAR PROPER FITTED HELMET AND BASICALLY TIPS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THE CYCLISTS BEFORE LEAVING ON ONE OF OUR RIDES. THESE ARE ALL TRAFFIC LAWS FROM TXDOT. AND BEFORE EVERY RIDE WE GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM AND WE TEACH BEGINNERS HOW TO RIDE IN TRAFFIC. AND ALSO WE ARE BIG PROMOTERS OF FOR DRIVERS TO STAY ALERT ON THE LOOKOUT FOR CYCLISTS. AND THIS IS ALSO TXDOT BICYCLE SAFETY. WE ARE ALSO ENCOURAGING THE CITIES TO LOOK INTO WORKING. AND INSTALLING WHAT WE CALL BIKE. WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS BIKE STATION? BIKE STATIONS? YEAH, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME BIKE STATIONS ON THE FRANKLIN MOUNTAINS WHERE MOUNTAIN MOUNTAIN BIKERS RIDE,,& AND THEY HAVE BASIC TOOLS AND PUMPS, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SAFE WORK ON YOUR BIKES. WE ALREADY HAVE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS CALLED THE BIKE WELLNESS AND ART CENTER, AND THESE ARE THE CONTACTS ANDD& THEIR PHONE NUMBERS. ROBERTO ALREADY CONTACTED US AND TALKED WITH MOST OF US. HE HAS MOST OF THE NAMES AND THE NUMBERS OF ALL OF US. AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER US AND DOING AN 
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EVENT IN YOUR CITY. AND THAT IS WHAT WE DO. AND THIS IS SANDY. SO SHE IS PART OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          I HOPE YOU ALL GET THE GIST OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE CAME UP WITH A MEETING. 
          REALLY, IT HAPPENED IN LESS THAN A MONTH AND WE HAD ALL THESE BIKE CLUBS AND RUNNING CLUBS SHOW UP, AND WE ASKED THEM TO TAKE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR A MONTH, AND ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS HOST IT, TELL US WHERE ITT& WAS GOING TO START, GIVE US A ROUTE, AND THEN WE WOULD SUPPORT THEM WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW ALL THE ORANGE AND YELLOW VESTS. SO THOSE ARE OUR LEAD RIDERS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NONPROFIT OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS. WE GOT WALKIE TALKIES,& WE GOT WHISTLES, WE GOT VESTS, AND ALL WE WANT TO DO IS PROMOTE CYCLING, NOT JUST IN EL PASO, ALL OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SO WE'RE HOPING TO START OUR RIDES FROM ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S A BIG CYCLING COMMUNITY IN THE EL PASO AREA. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A COUPLE OF RIDERS HERE AND THERE. WE WANTED TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER EVERY SECOND SATURDAY OF THE MONTH, AND THEN JUST GET OUT THERE AND SHOW ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES THAT WE EXIST, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF US WANTING TO RIDE ALL OVER EL PASO. WE WERE JUST TELLING MR. AVILA EARLIER THATT& THE PARK YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED. WHAT IS THE PARK THAT YOU SAID? IT'S THE HORIZON. MESA. OKAY. SO WE CALL IT MOAB BECAUSE OF THAT ROCK THAT YOU ALL HAVE THERE. WE ACTUALLY RIDE ALL THE WAY FROM LOUELLA OR TARGET. WE RIDE ALL THE WAY UP THERE. WE LOVE THAT PARK. WE THINK OF ALL THE PARKS THAT WE SEE. IT IS SO FAMILY ORIENTED. WE LOVE TO SEE ALL THE KIDS OUT THERE WITH THEIR FAMILIES PLAYING FOOTBALL AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. THAT'S OUR FAVORITE PARK TO RIDE TO, ACTUALLY, AND WE TAKE PICTURES THERE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. WELL, IN OUR CYCLING LITTLE COMMUNITY AS MOAB. SO WE SAY,,& OH, WE'RE RIDING TO MOAB TODAY AND THEY ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. THE FIRST TIME WE ACTUALLY TOOK PICTURES THERE, WE CROPPED IT AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE ACTUALLY IN MOAB, UTAH. AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS JUST PROMOTE IT ALL OVER THE AREAS. IF YOU ALL TEAM UP WITH QUALITY SUPPLY, WE WOULD RIDE SOMEWHERE OVER HERE IN HORIZON. OF COURSE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE SOME CYCLISTS, POLICEMEN THAT COULD COME ALONG WITH US AND JUST HELP US, YOU KNOW, CONTROL TRAFFIC. WE'RE REALLY CAREFUL WHEN WE RIDE AND WE TRY TO PROTECT ALL OUR RIDERS. WE HAVE THREE LEVEL& OF RIDERS. WE HAVE 18 TO 20 MILE. WE CALL THEM THE SPEEDSTERS. AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME THAT ARE NOT AS FAST. WE CALL THEM THE DOMINGUITO. SO WE LIKE TO STOP AND TAKE PICTURES. WE DON'T JUS& LIKE TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND BACK AS FAST AS WE CAN. WE ACTUALLY LIKE TO ENJOY THE RIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE BEGINNER RIGHTS ON THE TRAIL. WE ACTUALLY HAD A DAD PULLING HIS LITTLE CHILD ON THE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST FAMILIES AND LITTLE KIDS AND ALL LEVELS OF RIDERS AND THAT RIGHT THAT WE CALL THE BEGINNER, RIGHT? SO WE'RE JUST HOPING TOO& PROMOTE THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WELLNESS BEING OUT THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR RUNNERS OF COURSE NOT A RUNNER MYSELF, BUT WE HAVE, LIKE WE SAID, ABOUT 6070 RUNNERS AVERAGE THAT COME OUT AND THEY COME UP WITH THEIR OWN TRAILS. AND WHERE ARE WE WRITING? WHOEVER'S HOSTING THAT RUN CLUB OR TELL US, OKAY, THIS& IS GOING TO BE OUR ROUTE AND WE'LL HAVE A THREE, A FIVE AND A TEN MILE OR THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT MILE RUN. AND WE DO THAT EVERY SECOND SATURDAY OF THE MONTH. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL TRY WANT TO JOIN IN WITH US AND GET HORIZON TO SEE OH MY GOSH, THERE'S A LOT OF CYCLISTS. THERE'S A LOT OF RUNNERS OUT THERE. AND OUR FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR FIRST EVENT, BECAUSE THERE WERE OVER 300 RIDERS THAT DAY, IT SAYS, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO PAY? IT'S LIKE, NO, NOBODY'S PAYING. THIS IS JUST COME TOGETHER. AND RIGHT. THERE ARE A LOT OF CYCLING AND RUNNING EVENTS ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT THAT CHARGE A LOT OF MONEY. WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING. WE JUST WANT TO GET THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE TO RIDE AND RUN WITH US. THAT'S IT. SO WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL LIKE JAVI SAID, CONSIDER BECOMING PART OF THE JULY EVENT WITH QUALITY SUPPLY, AND ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COME AND RIDE YOUR STREETS. AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE LOVE TO STOP AND EAT. SO SOMETIMES WE GO FROM POINT A TO& POINT B, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY STOP AT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN EAT OR BUY STUFF AND, AND THEN GET BACK ON THE ROAD AND GO AGAIN. SO WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER INCLUDING US IN THIS YEAR'S SCHEDULE AND THEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE DOING BIGGER, 
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BUT WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL JUMP IN AND JOIN US ON THE RIDE. MR. AVILA JOINED US ON THE LAST RIDE THROUGH THE PLAYA TRAILS. I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 40 RIDERS IN THAT EVENT WITH OUR BEGINNER GROUP, AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER GROUP THAT WENT TO FABENS AND THEY WERE JUST SPEEDSTERS. WOW. 
          WOW. THEY'RE DOING THAT. OKAY. AND. THIS IS NANCY FROM DETECTIVE, AND SHE DOES AN AWESOME JOB WITH HER RUNNING. THEY ACTUALLY RUN EVERY WEDNESDAY FROM THE PLACITA, AND YOU SHOULD SEE SHE'S. I THINK THE LAST RUN, SHE HAD MAYBE A HUNDRED OR MORE RUNNERS. WOW. 
          AND THEY JUST RUN ALL OVER DOWNTOWN. AND SHE'S TAKEN HER FIRST TWO MONTHLY EVENTS OR WHATEVER. THEY WERE FEBRUARY AND MARCH, AND SHE CAME UP WITH A ROUTE THEY WERE GOING TO RUN AND THE DISTANCES, AND THEY STRETCHED AND GOT READY AND THE& THEY WENT RUNNING. AND SO AND THEY WOULD ALSO BE JOINING US O& THE EVENT. YEAH. SO I HOPE YOU ALL ARE JUST AS EXCITED AS WE ARE ABOUT DOING THIS. LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T GET PAID FOR ANY OF THIS. IT'S JUST FOR THE LOVE OF THE WELLNESS, FOR THE LOVE OF CYCLING, FOR THE LOVE OF RUNNING AND HOPING THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL COME OUT THERE AND DO THIS WITH US. I'M I'M 64 YEARS OLD. I STARTED THIS ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO& JUST CYCLING. I GOT HOOKED, HAD NEVER OWNED A BIKE IN MY LIFE, AND I JUST GOT HOOKED AND I LOVE IT. AND SO I'VE DONE MY FURTHEST TRIPS HAVE BEEN ABOUT 62 MILES. I'M NOT A SPEEDSTER, SO I GO ABOUT 12 TO 15 MILES AN HOUR, BUT I CAN DO A DISTANCE, RIGHT? NOT AT THIRSTY, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY HEALTHY AND HAPPY TO SAY. LIKE WHEN I RETIRED FROM TEACHING, MY HUSBAND AND I TRIED TO GETT& HEALTH INSURANCE AND THEY. I WOULDN'T QUALIFY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A PRIMARY DOCTOR. AND I SAID, WELL, I THINK I'M LUCKY. I DON'T NEED A PRIMARY DOCTOR, AND THEY WOULDN'T INSURE ME. SO CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT IF YOU'RE REALLY HEALTHY, YOU HAVE& A REALLY HARD TIME DOING THEM? SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, IT PROMOTES BEING HEALTHY AND STAYING ACTIVE AND NOT BEING ATTACHED TO TIME. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO IT. SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO JOIN US AND TO BECOME A PART OF WHAT& WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE CITY AND ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS. EXCELLENT. I'M SORRY FOR OUR RECORD, JUST AS WE'RE RECORDING THE MEETING, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN? SANDY PINEDA. SANDY PINEDA. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO STEP UP? THANK YOU& MISS PINEDA. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RAY PERAZA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ON THE SLIDE THAT WASN'T TALKED ABOUT TOO MUCH IS THE SAFETY ON THE ROADS. THE PROBLEM WE ALL HAVE, WHETHER YOU'RE RUNNING OR CYCLING, IS THE BIKE& LANES ARE DIRTY. THE RUNNING LANES, IF THERE'S A RUNNING TRAIL, ARE NOT ALWAYS CLEAN. SO THAT MEANS THE RIDERS ARE GOING TO TAKE THE LINK, MEANING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE STREET, GET OFF THE BIKE LANE BECAUSE IT'S SAFER. EVEN THOUGH& THERE'S CARS, IT'S SAFER IF THE BIKE LANES ARE CLEAN OR YOU HAVE DEDICATED BIKE PATHS AND RUNNING PATHS, YOUR CITIZENS ARE SAFER. THIS PROMOTES THEM TO WANT TOO& GET OUT. RIGHT NOW, A LOT WON'T GET OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAIDD& OF THE CARS. THERE'S NOT RUNNING PATHS FOR EVERYTHING. THE RUNNERS ARE ON THE STREETS JUST& AS MUCH AS WE ARE. SO IT'S A CLEAN AREA. IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE. YOU HAVE THE CARS, HAVE THEIR SPOT. RUNNERS AND RIDERS HAVE THEIR SPOT. YOU HAVE A SAFER COMMUNITY, SAFER COMMUNITIES, MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND THAT'S THE BIG PART ABOUT THIS. WE'RE OUT THERE WITH 100 PLUS BIKES, ABOUT 40, 50, 60, MAYBE 100 RUNNERS. AND IF IT'S SAFE, WE'RE ALL HAPPY. IT WAS DANGEROUS. YOU KIND OF LOOK AROUND. SO WHENEVER YOU'RE PLANNING SOMETHING, MAKE SUREE& YOUR BIKE LANES ARE WIDE ENOUGH. 
          THE LAW, I THINK, STATES THATT& THE CARS HAVE TO BE AT LEAST THREE FEET AWAY FROM YOU. A MINIMUM OF BIKE LANE IS FIVE FEET WIDE TO SIX FEET WIDE, PLUS THE THREE FEET. SO YOU GOT TOO& PLAN YOUR STREETS THAT WAY. A LOT OF THE RUNNERS, LIKE NANCY'S GROUP AND ALL THE OTHER RUNNERS IN THE PAST, THEY RUN IN THE STREET BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS ARE TOO NARROW. SO IF YOU HAVE THE 5 TO 6 LANE, BIKE WIDTH LANE PLUS THE THREE FEET, THERE IS ROOM. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WHERE YOU GET TO THE BIKE AND IT'S ONLY TWO FEET WIDE, IT'S DANGEROUS. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE ROADS BUILT CORRECTLY, OR THE BIKE PATHS OR RUNNING PATHS. PUT THE& SAFETY OF YOUR CITIZENS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THIS, WE'RE GOING TO STICK AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. CORRAL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SURE. MR. YEAH. I 
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DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME. MR. GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY, GUYS, ON THE PRESENTATION. I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THE SAFETY PART. IS THERE A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT MAYBE WE CAN MIRROR OR THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MIRROR OR THAT'S NEARBY AS FAR AS ON A ON& A SAFETY OR EVEN MAYBE ALBUQUERQUE? LAS CRUCES, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. AUSTIN HAS A LOT OF BIKE LANES OR BIKE PATHS AND RUNNING PATHS THAT ARE WITHINN& THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE OFF THE ROADS. IF YOU LOOKK& ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, ON THE SIDE OF I-10, ON BOTH SIDES, THERE'S A BIKE LANE AND A RUNNING LANE THAT'S OFF THE ROAD SO YOU CAN GET ON THAT LANE. NOW, IF IT'S A LARGE GROUP, THE& WON'T GET ON IT BECAUSE THE WALKERS. BUT IF IT'S A COUPLE BIKE RIDERS, THEY'RE GOING TOO& GET ON THE BIKE LANE OR THE RUNNING LANE BECAUSE IT'S SAFE. YOU'RE OFF TO A BIT OFF THE FRONTAGE ROAD. SO THE WEST SIDE& HAS SOME GOOD ONES. THE PLAYA DRAIN TRAIL IS A GREAT ONE. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY. SANDY'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO AROUND WITH ANA, WHICH IS THE MANAGER OF THE CYCLING AND RUNNING LANES IN EL PASO, DOWNN& THE TRAIL TO MAKE CERTAIN SECTIONS SAFE. SOME OF THEM YOU& HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN, AND IT'S JUST UNSAFE TO DO IT. SO IT'S AN ON AND OFF EASIER. SO THE PLAYA TRAIL IS A NICE ONE. YOU'RE ON AND OFF THAT TRACK AND DOWN TO THE LOWER VALLEY QUITE A BIT, BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH THE CANALS AND YOU HAVE TO CROSS STREETS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE SAFE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE DO STOP ON THEM. 
          WEST SIDE IS THE NICE ONE THOUGH. THEY HAVE THE PLAYA TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT'S COMPLETELY OFF THE ROADS. WHAT'& THE NAME OF THAT ONE? THE PLAYA DRAIN TRAIL. OKAY. THAT ONE IS BEING EXTENDED FROM. IT'S RIGHT NOW. IT'S AT ASCOT TO CAPISTRANO PARK. THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ONE IN SOCORRO TO CONTINUE IT. AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED FROM ESCALATING TO TH& WEST SIDE. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS GOING THAT WAY, BUT IT'S ALL ALONG THE RIO GRANDE O& THE WEST SIDE. NICE. SO IT'S SAFE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT CLEAN BECAUSE IT'S DIRT ROAD. YOU KNOW, THE WIND PICKS UP BUT IT'S SAFE FOR YOU TO RIDE. SO AS LON& AS YOU HAVE A SAFE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE AND RUN, YOU'REE& GOING TO HAVE MORE CITIZENS GETTING OUT. IF IT'S DANGEROUS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GET OUT WITH& THEIR FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. AND THAT'& WHAT WE'RE PROMOTING. FAMILIESS& OUT THERE ALL TOGETHER, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO GROW. THE FIRST RIGHT THERE WAS A LIKE 7 OR 8 YEAR OLD ON A WALMART BIKE. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE HEAVIEST BIKE AROUND. THAT LITTLE KID CRUSHED 11 MILES LIKE A CHAMP. HAD A BLAST. I STAYED WITH THAT& FAMILY THE WHOLE TIME. THEY ENJOYED IT. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. YOU HAVE SAFE AREAS. YOU HAVE TO GET PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS HAVING FUN AND SPENDING MONEY IN YOUR CITY. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. BEING THAT YOU BRING THIS UP, HAVE YOU SURVEYED OUR AREA TO SEE MAYBE WHERE THERE'S A GOOD AREA TO RIDE IN YET BEFORE, ONLY PART WRITTEN HEREE& IS GOING TO WITH WHAT WE CALLL& IT. BUT YOU HAVE HORIZON MESA PARK. WE HAVE WRITTEN. SORRY. YEAH. THE ONE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP EAST LAKE. ALL THE WAY T& THE END. THERE'S TRAILS ON BOTH& SIDES OF THAT. WE'VE WRITTEN THAT, AND THEN WE GET OFF AND THERE'S A TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG HORIZON, AND WE'VE WRITTEN THAT. 
          I THINK IT GOES EVEN FURTHER DOWN. WE'VE WRITTEN PARTS OF THAT. THERE ARE SOME TRAILS WE LIKE TO GET ON IT, WHEN MAYBE THERE'S EVEN 20, 30, 40 OF US. THE ONLY BAD THING IS THAT, OF COURSE, BEING EL PASO AREA IN THE DESERT, OUR ENEMY IS THE THORNS. OH, YEAH. AND A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY KEPT UP. WE'VE ACTUALLY EVEN TAKEN ROOMS IN OUR BACKS AND GONE AND SIPPED GLASS OFF OF TRAILS SO THAT WE CAN RIDE THEM SAFELY. SO THE ONLY THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT KEPT UP ALL THE TIME. BECAUSE OF THE WINDS WE HAVE HERE IN EL PASO. AND SO BUT WE HAVE WRITTEN, WE LOVE THE TRAIL ON EAST LAKE. WE'VE RIDDE& IT ALL THE WAY FROM THE FREEWAY, ALL THE WAY UP, AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THAT PARK AND THEN KEPT GOING. SO WE HAVE RIDDEN THE TRAILS IN HORIZON PARK. HOW MANY MILES IS THAT? DO YOU GUYS HAVE? OH, GOSH. WHEN WE GO FROM. WELL, LOUELLA TO THE TRAILS UP TO THE 711, I'M NOT SURE WHAT STREET THAT'S ON, BUT OFF OF HORIZON, THERE'S A CONVENIENCE STORE THERE. AND BACK TO LOUELLA. IT'S ABOUT A 30 MILE RIDE, BUT THE TRAILS THEMSELVES, JUST THE TRAILS. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MILES I CAN TELL YOU THAT TUCSON HAS 135 MILES OF OFF ROAD CYCLING TRAILS THAT ARE ALL CONNECTED AROUND THE CITY, AND THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. IMAGINE BRINGING ALL THIS CYCLISTS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD GO THERE BECAUSE OF COURSE, THEIR TEMPERATURES IN THE WINTER, SPRING AND SUMMER. WELL, NOT SUMMER, WINTER, SPRING AND FALL. AND THEY'RE VERY WELL KEPT. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY RIDDEN THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON A LITTLE GOLF CART 
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THAT GO AROUND AND MAINTAIN THE, THE, THE TRAILS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TOO& CARRY OUR LITTLE BROOMS IN THE BACK OF OUR. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY& CALLED OURSELVES GLASS BUSTERS. 
          I JUST HAVE AN IDEA. MAYBE THE HIGH SCHOOLS COULD HELP OUT. MR. ANDY, THIS IS MY WIFE. THE HIGH SCHOOLS CAN HELP OUT THEIR ROTC PROGRAMS. I KNOW THEY DO A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK AND GIVE THEM& THEIR COMMUNITY HOURS FOR GRADUATION. THEY CAN CLEAN THE SIDEWALKS, THE PARKS, THE WHOLE. 
          THEY CAN CLEAN THE WHOLE THING. PROBABLY IF YOU GET THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO DO THIS OR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ALSO TO HELP, BECAUSE THAT I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE TOO& CLEAN THE ROOMS AND THAT'S I JUST AN IDEA. RIGHT. MISS PINEDA. RIGHT. OR RAY? I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF YOU COULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION. I KNOW WHEN I PARTICIPATED IN THIS LAST EVENT FROM CAPISTRANO PARK TOO& ASCARATE PARK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY WAS THE SAG. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE& TO THE COMMISSION WHAT A SAG IS? SAG IS A VEHICLE THAT FOLLOWS THE GROUP FOR SAFETY. THEY HAVE WATER IN THE VEHICLE. THEY HAVE TUBES. THEY HAVE PUMPS, TOOLS T& MAINTAIN. THEY HAVE FIRST AID KITS. SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE'S A VEHICLE THERE TO PICK& A PERSON UP WHO NEED IT, OR A BIKE BREAKS. THEY CAN PICK THEM UP AND THEY STILL FOLLOW ALONG. IT'S A SAFETY THING. WE ACTUALLY HAVE LIGHTS FOR THE TOP OF OUR TRUCKS, LIKE THOSE YELLOW SERVICE LIGHTS AND VEHICLES TOO& SO PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE COMING OR THERE'S PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US. IT'S BASICALLY A SAFETY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE, THA& IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, SOMEONE GETS EXHAUSTED, THEY CAN GET IN& THE VEHICLE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO& STRUGGLE. NICE. IF SOMEONE TAKES A SPILL AND THEY CUT THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, NOTHING MAJOR. THERE'S BAND-AIDS AND STUFF TO KEEP THEM CLEAN. IF THEY GET DEHYDRATED, THERE'S WATER OR FRUIT. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A SAFETY FEATURE THAT A LOT OF CITIES DO ON BIG EVENTS. LARGE RACES HAVE THEM. THEY'RE DOING A LARGE RACE LIKE IN TUCSON AND EVERYTHING. 
          THEY HAVE SAG VEHICLES. IN JUAREZ, THERE'S A RIDE THAT GOES FROM JUAREZ TO ALMEDA, WHICH IS 72 MILES, AND THEY HAVE SEX. WE EVEN HAD A SAG ON THE TRAIL. AND SO OUR SAG KNEW THE TRAIL BECAUSE HE RIDES IT A LOT AS WELL. AND SO HE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE EACH INTERSECTION WAS,,& WHERE HE COULDN'T GET ON WITH A CAR. AND HE WOULD MEET US AT EVERY INTERSECTION. AND WE HAD WALKIE TALKIES, COMMUNICATED EVERYTHING. OKAY. WHEN SOMEONE WENT DOWN OR SOMEONE NEEDED A. I THINK WE HAD A BLACK HIRE YOU AS WELL. FLAT TIRE. HE SAYS, OKAY, I'M AT THIS INTERSECTION. WE'LL BE THERE. AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO EVEN FOLLOW US ALONG ON THE TRAIL. HE KNEW THE ALL THE INTERSECTIONS WE WOULD BE AT. S& IT WAS US. AND THE ONE THING WE DO WITH THE CYCLING AND RUNNING, THE MAPS ARE POSTED SO WE KNOW WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING. COULD I JUST ASK YOU TO. AND THE MICROPHONE JUST SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IT. I'M SORRY. ONE THING WE DO DO IS A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE THE EVENT, WE POST ALL THE ROUTES FOR THE BIKES AND THE RUNNING. THAT WAY WE KNOW WHERE EVERYONE IS. SO IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE RUNNERS, THEY SAY THEY DON'T HAVE A SAG ON THE RUNNERS, ORR& THEY CAN ALWAYS PICK UP A PHONE AND CALL ONE OF US AND SOMEONE CAN GO. IT'S A SAFETY THING TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE YOU'RE WITH ARE HAPPY AND SAFE. OKAY. YOU GUYS DO OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE EL PASO REGION, AND I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT EL PASO. WHAT RESOURCES DO YOU NEED FROM THOSE MUNICIPALITIES? WELL, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, TRAFFIC CONTROL IS THE BIGGEST ONE AND THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE. WE'RE WORKING WITH EL PASO METRO PD, THE BIKE OFFICERS, HOPEFULLY TO GET THEM WITH US ON OUR SHORTER RIDES TO CONTROL TRAFFIC. THE LONGER ONES ARE A LITTLE TOUGHER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FASTER. YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A CAR IF YOU HAVE 100 RIDERS OR EVEN 100 RUNNERS, THEY CAN'T CROSS THE STREET AT ONE TIME. MOST OF THE TIME YOU'RE STOPPING TRAFFIC. SAD TO SAY, WE LIVE IN THE SOUTHWEST AND PEOPLE AREN'T THE NICEST. AND IT'S JUST THEY JUST& SAID I USED TO BE ONE OF THEM BEFORE I STARTED CYCLING. I'M LIKE, GOD, THESE PEOPLE ARE IN MY WAY AND IT'S NOT A HAPPY CAMPER IN THE CAR NOW THAT I'M WRITING. I SEE, OKAY, THEY HAVE& A POINT. SO POLICE OFFICERS WOULD BE GREAT. WE KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE THOUGH. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEE& CITY, ALSO OF EL PASO FOR BIKE MONTH, TO SET THE BIKE MONTH DOWNTOWN WITH SAFETY TOWN, AND WE'RE SETTING UP THE BIKE SHOP THERE TO WITH A COUPLE OTHER BIKE SHOPS TO CHECK BIKES, MAKE& SURE THEY'RE SAFE FOR EVERY RIDE. WE PLAN THE ROUTE. THE RUNNERS AND THE CYCLISTS HAVE THEIR OWN ROUTE. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME ON BOARD WITH US, WE WOULD TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHICH INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE YOU WOULD GO THROUGH. OKAY. AND THAT HELPS A LOT. AND OF COURSE WE DO 
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IT EARLY IN THE MORNING. ON ON SATURDAY. SO THAT'S WHEN THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC YOU KNOW GOING ON. 
          BUT WE WOULD SPECIFICALLY TELL YOU WHAT THE ROUTES GOING TO BE, WHAT TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE. THE RUNNERS YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TOO& START, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TOO& FINISH. SO THAT KEEPS IT ALL, YOU KNOW, NICE. AND IF WE HAVE HELP TO CONTROL TRAFFIC AND TOO& MAKE IT SAFER, EVEN BETTER, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP. AND GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. BERRY, WE YOU KNOW US THAT I LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MILES. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT ROAD. UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO THAT IT GOT REALLY DANGEROUS AND THAT THAT BROUGHT US INTO HORIZON. I DID IT EVERY WEEK, AND WE HAD A GROUP OF ABOUT 20 TO 30 RIDERS COMING INTO HORIZON AND RIDING ALL THE WAY TO HORIZON BOULEVARD AND GOING BACK ON EASTLAKE. BUT UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, IT GOT REALLY DANGEROUS BECAUSE ALL THE, I GUESS, WAREHOUSES AND STUFF THAT STARTED BUILDING AROUND HERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SEMIS GOING THROUGH THERE. SO SADLY, WE STOPPED DOING THAT. RIGHT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OF THE TRAFFIC AND IT GOT REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS. AND SOME OF US ACTUALLY HAD ACCIDENTS ON THAT, THAT ROAD. BUT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, A GREAT ROAD IF, IF THERE WOULD BE A WIDER SHOULDER OR EVEN A BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOUR HORIZON HAS A LOT OF GOOD RIDERS THAT LIKE TO TAKE THAT, BUT NOT ANYMORE. WOULD YOU WOULD YOUR ORGANIZATION HAVE ANY DATA THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE, WHERE YOU COULD COMPARE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THIS WOULD BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY AS COMPARED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, OTHER CITIES WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE WRITTEN AND AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING THOSE NEW COMMUNITIES, THEY'RE TAKING THE BICYCLING COMMUNITY INTO CONSIDERATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA THAT WOULD HELP US SUPPORT THIS MOMENT? NO, NOT AT THE MOMENT. YEAH. OKAY. IT'S THE LIKE I SAID, WE BARELY STARTED THIS BEGINNING OF THE YEAR NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE OFF ON US. WE'VE ALL BEEN RIDING FOR YEARS. WE'VE ALL BEEN FRIENDS FOR YEARS. AND WHEN WE DECIDED TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND DO THIS, WE DIDN'T THINK THE FIRST EVENT WAS GOING TO GO OFF VERY WELL. 
          AND WE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR 300 BIKES AND GOING TO ABOUT 7080 RUNNERS. WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT, TO BE TOTALLY HONEST. I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT. WE WASN'T READY, NONE OF US. BUT IT WENT OFF WELL. WE CAN GET THE DATA, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE CAN GET IT, BUT WE CAN WORK ON IT. AND IF YOU KEEP& AN EYE ON ON OUR FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, EVEN LIVE ATHLETICS, THEY'RE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE CITY AND CYCLING NOW AND RUNNING. THEY'RE PUTTING ON A LOT OF GOOD EVENTS. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ON MORE EVENTS THAT ARE FREE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BIKE EVENTS AREN'T FREE. THERE'S BEEN A $50 OR UP. YOU HAVE TO GO OUT OF TOWN IF YOU WANT TO RIDE WITH ABOUT 2 OR 3000 CYCLISTS, YOU'R& GOING TO SPEND $150 TO ENTER, PLUS YOUR HOTEL, PLUS YOUR GAS PLUS GOING OUT THERE. WHY NOT DO IT HERE IN EL PASO HORIZON? THI& IS SOMETHING ONE OF THE OTHER FAMILIES MYSELF WERE TRYING TOO& DO YEARS AGO. WE HAD IT MAPPEDD& OUT WHERE WE CLOSED DOWN HOLE 375. IT'S A 72 MILE LOOP. WE HA& IT DOWN. I THOUGHT WE SAID NO. WE PUT IT AWAY. WE DIDN'T DO IT. 
          AND THEN RECENTLY ALL OF US GOT TOGETHER. CAN WE DO IT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF EVERYONE THESE TWO SISTER CITIES THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER GET TOGETHER, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. I'LL& TALK TO YOU. MR. ROBERT, WHILE YOU KNOW THAT JUAREZ HAS A SIMPLE PISTA, AN OVAL TRACK LIK& A NASCAR TRACK, THEY RACE BIKES& THEY RACE EVERY TUESDAY, EVERY THURSDAY, EVERY THURSDAY THEY RACE THEIR JUAREZ. BUT WE ALL SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. HAS A TRACK FOR KIDS AND ADULTS TO RACE IN EL PASO. AND VERIZON HELPED. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE. AND THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. BUT A CIRCLE TRACK THAT'S A BANK FOR CYCLING ON THE TOP, BUT A RUNNING TRACK FOR RUNNERS MAKEE& IT A BIG PART. BUT A CONTRACT FOR KIDS? THIS IS A TWO BIG CITIES TIED TOGETHER. THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER. THE SKY'S THE LIMIT. AND WE SIT THERE AND THINK OF US AS SEPARATE, YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE SEPARATE BODIES. PUTS OUT HUGE EVENTS. I WAS TELLING YOU EARLIER THAT THEY CLOSED DOWN STREETS FOR ALMOST NOTHING, AND THEY CLOSED DOWN THE RACE DOWN BY. TIMES UP. YEAH, THEY SHUT IT DOWN SIX HOURS. SIX HOURS. IT'S AA& PERMANENT, I THINK, OF $200. THEY TOLD ME POLICE OFFICERS SHUT IT DOWN HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THEY TELL YOU YOU'RE HALF AN HOUR TO FINISH, 200 BUCKS TOO& CLOSE DOWN A MAIN STREET, A MAIN STREET WE DID ON THE END OF GLOBAL REACH. I THINK IT WAS TWO GRAND FOR THE POLICE TO BLOCK IT OFF FOR A FOUR HOUR PERIOD. WHEN WE RENTED A SPOT AT THE PARK FOR A RACE THAT WAS ABOUT OVER 
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CORRECTLY, LIKE 1100 PLUS THE $200 CITY. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY MAKING ANY MONEY TO DO IT. YOU'RE IN, YOU CHARGE. YOU'RE BARELY MAKING ENOUGH TO COVER. SO NOT AS MANY& PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY. YOU DO FREE EVENTS. THEY'LL SHOW UP,,& THEY'LL SHOW UP. BUT THAT'S THE LIMIT. WHEN YOU BRING ALL YOUR FOOD TRUCKS IN, YOU BRING THE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SERVE FOOD, WATER TO. EVERYTHING GOES TO THE ECONOMY BECAUSE CITIZENS SEE IT. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, ARRIVING INN& EL PASO, THEY CRUSHED IT. SO YOU DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN SO LITTLE& BY LITTLE. IF EVERYONE WORKS TOGETHER, WE CAN DO A LOT. AND I WANTED TO ASK, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LIST ALL OF YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, FOR ONLINE VIEWERS AND MYSELF, I ALWAYS GO BACK AND REVIEW IT, I HAVE. ONLINE COMMUNITY ADVENTURES ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM. WE HAVE LOUELLA BIKE SHOP, WE HAVE BIKE SHOP, WE HAVE ATHLETICS. THEY TEACH LIVE ATHLETICS, HAS GREAT PAGES. SHE HELPS US A LOT WITH OUR STUFF. NOT THE MOST COMPUTE& SAVVY GUY. DO IT FOR WORK. 
          EVERYTHING WITH ALL THE NICE PRETTY STUFF. SHE'S GREAT AT IT, SO SHE HELPS US A LOT. SO YOU HAVE LIVE ATHLETICS HOURS OR ADVENTURE CYCLING. YOU'RE RUNNING LOUELLA PODIUM. A LOT OF BICYCLE CLUB, LOST DOGS, CRITICAL MASS, MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. PRETTY MUCH ALL THE CLUBS ARE ON THAT PAGE. HAVE A WEBSITE OR HAVE A FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM, AND THEY ALL SHARE THE BEAUTY ABOUT THE RUNNING CLUBS IS THERE UNITED CYCLERS ARE A LITTLE BIT STRANGE. 
          KINGDOM MOUNTAIN TYPE TERRITORIAL RUNNERS SINCE I'VE BEEN PARTICIPATED LIVE DOWNTOWN ON WEDNESDAYS YOU CAN HAVE SEVEN EIGHT CLUBS DOWN THERE, BUT THAT DAY THEY'RE NOT SEVEN EIGHT CLUBS, THEY'RE LIVE ATHLETICS AND THEY ALL PARTICIPATE AND THEY ALL GET IN THERE AND THEY THEY LIVE ATHLETIC, GOES TOO& ANOTHER CLUB RUN. SHE'S NOT LIVE. I THINK SHE MAY HAVE THE SHIRT ON AND HER GROUP MAY HAVE THE SHIRT ON, BUT THEY'RE THAT CLUB SO THEY'RE UNITED. CYCLERS ARE A LITTLE BIT STRANGE. WE HAVE A MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, LOST DOGS, CRITICAL MASS, EL PASO BICYCLE CLUB THAT ARE COMPLETELY IN WITH US, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE WITH US DOWNTOWN. I INVITEE& ALL OF YOU TO GO DOWN MAY 4TH TO THE PLAZA TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S ALL FOR THE KIDS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVING HELMETS AWAY. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME BIKES AWAY. 
          I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO DONATE ONE FOR MY SIDE BUSINESS TO THEM. WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND IT'S FOR THE KIDS THAT DAY THEY'RE HAVING TO RUN SOME OF THE NEEDLES, BUT THEY'RE OFFERING, YOU KNOW LIKE HOW MANY RUNNERSS& ON THAT ONE? THEY'RE AIMING TOO& 2000, 2000 RUNNERS. AND THAT'S FOR HEART SURGERY FOR NEEDY, UNDERPRIVILEGED. AFTER THAT RUN, THEY'RE ALL COMING DOWNTOWN TOO& THE KIDS FOR THE BIKES. SO COME JOIN US. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEE& FOOD TRUCKS AND ENJOY THE MORNING AND SEE WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. JUST ONE JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE QUARTERBACKING THESE EVENTS. 
          IT'S YOU GUYS, THE BORDERLINE COMMUNITY ADVENTURES, RIGHT? BORDERLINE COMMUNITY ADVENTURES. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NPO IS THE ONE THAT'S DOING THIS. YES, SIR. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS WHAT DIALOG ARE YOU GUYS HAVING WITH TXDOT REGARDING WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE? RIGHT NOW? EL PASO BICYCLE CLUB, WHICH IS THE OLDEST CLUB IN EL PASO, THE ONE THAT RUNS THAT IS MARTY BOYD,,& AND SHE'S PART OF TEX-DOT, AND SHE'S TELLING US WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MONTANA. THEY'RE BUILDING A BIKE AND RUNNING PATH THAT WAS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND MONTANA. 375 601 AND GLOBALL& REACH. IT'S A 15 MILE LOOP. AND WE WROTE SOME OF IT. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO RIDE AROUND WITH& ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT WEE& WROTE SOME. IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE TRACK, BUT SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S LETTING US KNOW WHATT& THEY'RE PUTTING TRACKS EVERYWHERE. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY HER NAME WAS? MARTY BOYD. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, HAVE YOU ALL BEEN ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT? I KNOW YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT ASCENSION, AND& YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION IS KIND OF MAKING A SPOKE WITH ANYTHING FROM HORIZON. AND I THINK MISTE& ROBERTS SAID HE WANTS TO DO THAT THE NEXT MEETING. SO, YEAH, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO JOIN I& AND START TALKING WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT WE CAN HELP WITH. WELL, A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. HAVE THERE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER INDIAN ORIGIN WHO COVERS THIS PRECINCT? OKAY. AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME WAYS YOU'D RECOMMEND THAT WE FACILITATE COMMUNICATION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY ABLE TO PLAN THESE SORTS OF EVENTS, BUT MAKE SURE WE EXECUTE THEM AND GET THEM ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. THE MAIN THING WOULD BE TO HAVE A SIT DOWN, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY WHERE IT'S NOT RECORDED, TELEVISED, NONE OF 
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THAT. SO I HAVE TO BE ALL, YOU KNOW, JUST A CONVERSATION. LET'S TALK. WHAT IS YOUR WHAT IS YOUR IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANT? WHAT CAN WE BRING TO THE TABLE? AND THEN& WHO DO WE HAVE TO GET INVOLVED? WHAT CLUB DO WE HAVE TO GET INVOLVED TO DO IT? IT'S TO SIT DOWN, HAVE A MEAL AND TALK. 
          THANKS TO THE OPEN HOUSE MEETING WE HAD LAST MONTH, MR. AVILA, THANK YOU TO MR. AVILA THAT THAT'S WHERE OUR FIRST ENGAGEMENT WAS, WAS MADE. AND WE'RE HONORED TO MEET YOU ALL. 
          AND IF AND IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, MEET THESE PEOPLE AND THE CITY LEADERS, WE& WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TOO& BRING HIM INFORMATION AND TALK TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHATT& WE'RE ALL ABOUT. SO THIS IS A FIRST BIG STEP THAT WE'RE TAKING TOWARDS. SURE. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. WE'RE TALKING WITH OFFICIALS, RIGHT. WITH THE CITY& OF EL PASO. WE'VE TALKED WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT RUN DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SATT& DOWN WITH LIKE THE MAYOR OR LIKE THAT. HOPEFULLY THAT DOES HAPPEN. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN INVITED SOMEWHERE TO TALK. OKAY. SO IT'S A GREAT HONOR AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR US. AND HOPEFULLY IT ENCOURAGES ALL OF YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOUR CITY AND TOO& PARTNER UP WITH US TO DO SOMETHING AS A GROUP, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO DO THINGS. 
          YES, A LOT, A LOT OF PEOPLE. THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY& HOW MANY RUNNING GROUPS YOU THINK YOU HAVE. THERE'S LIKE 12. OH, THERE'S MORE THAN THAT, ISN'T THERE? AND WE'RE FREE. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK TO ANY. YEAH, WELL I THINK I'M CHARGING. YEAH. I THINK 12 TO 15 GOOD RUNNING CLUBS THAT ARE REALLY DEDICATED. THERE'S QUITE A FEW BIKE CLUBS, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 6 OR 7 THAT ARE DEDICATED TO REALLY HELPING. BUT NOT EVERYBODY BELONGS TO A CLUB OR A GROUP. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT JUST RUN AND BIKE BY THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T BELONG TO ANY CLUBS. THEY THEY WANT TO ACCEPT ME. YEAH, YEAH. 
          WE ALL BELONG TO A CLUB BEFORE. YEAH. WE'VE ALL RIDDEN WITH CLUBS AND. THE POLITICS IS POLITICS. YEAH. I DON'T CARE FOR IT. I'D RATHER JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME. I THINK YOU ALL ARE STARTING AN ORGANIZATION THAT CAN MESH WITH THE NEEDS OF HORIZON AT A VERY CRITICAL POINT IN OUR HISTORY, HORIZON IS GOING THROUGH AN EXPLOSIVE GROWTH. AND SITTING HERE AMONGST THE AUDIENCE ARE SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE THAT ARE HERE TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE US AS WELL. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE HERE TOO& LISTEN TO, TO YOU GUYS. AND I INTEND TO BRING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION SO THAT WE GROW FAST, BUT WE GROW SMART. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS. THAT'S THE MAIN THING OF GROWING SMART. YEAH. BECAUSE WE CAN PUT ROADS TOGETHER AND PARKS TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT FRIENDLY TO USE. IT'S NOT THERE'S NO POINT. GOOD. 
          MAKE EVERYTHING FAMILY FRIENDLY, BIKE FRIENDLY, RUNNER FRIENDLY. AND THEY'LL BE FULL LIKE YOUR PARK. MOAB. THAT PLACE IS ALWAYS FULL. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS. IT'S THEIR FULL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK. PERFECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE MORE REGARDING FUNDRAISING.& COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW DO YOU ALL RAISE FUNDS FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, FOR FEES THAT YOU ALL PAY TO GET POLICE DEPARTMENT CLOSED OFF STREETS??& EVERYTHING IS COMING OUT OF OUR& POCKET. ANYTHING WE DO SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO A WHOLE LOT THAT WAY SINCE EVERYTHING'S FREE, WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOR ANYTHING. IT'S BEEN PRETTY EASY, BUT AS IT KEEPS GROWING, THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING TO TAKE PERMITS OUT AND EVERYTHING, IT'LL BE COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET. WE DO HAVE A NONPROFIT ATTACHED TO IT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING FOR BUYING BIKES FOR KIDS, SHOES FOR KIDSS& THAT WANT TO RUN HELMETS, HELMETS, YOU KNOW, BUYING THE GEAR THEY NEED. IF THEY HAVE A IF A YOUNG CHILD WANTS TO START RIDING BIKES AND START MAYBE RACING, PROMOTING, THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO GET TO SCHOOL THAN FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL. THERE'S CYCLING, THERE'S RUNNING. SOME OF THESE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD IT. 
          SO WE WANT TO FUND THE ORGANIZATION TO DO THAT. IT'S THE BIKE WELLNESS AND OUR CENTE& AND ART WAS BECAUSE OF THERE'S KIDS THAT LIKE ART. THE BIKE SHOP WE WORK OUT OF HAS A STUDI& THERE WHERE THEY PUT UP PAINTINGS AND HAVE EXHIBITS. EVERYTHING IS SOLD. ALL THE MONEY GOES TO THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IT THERE. THE KIDS, THE ADULTS WERE GOOD. IT'S A FREE DEAL, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING THE ORGANIZATION TO DO STUFF, TO BUY BIKES FOR KIDS, T& BUY SHOES. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO& THAT POINT TO START FUNDING IT YET. BUT RIGHT NOW, UP TO THIS POINT, IT'S ALL COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS. AND HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED INTO LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS? LET'S SAY WE GET A BUNCH OF FOOD TRUCKS OUT AND SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO COME IN, AND 
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EVERYBODY KIND OF CHIPS IN. HAV& YOU ALL STARTED LOOKING INTOO& THOSE TYPES OF SPONSORSHIPS TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO RAISE THOSE FUNDS IN THE FUTURE? I'VE DONE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE PAST WITH A COMPANY I WORK WITH, AND THERE USED TO BE A FOOD TRUCK ORGANIZATION, AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FOOD TRUCK CIRCUS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH THEM, AND A LOT OF THE MONEY THEY WOULD PAY FOR THE SPOT TO BE THERE, SAY, $100 FOR THE SPOT THAT ALL WENT BACK INTO THE TROPHIES AND EVERYTHIN& FOR A CAR. SO WE DID. SO IT WAS RELATIVELY EASY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SELL A LOT, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT SIZE YET WHERE WE HAVE TO HIRE FOOD TRUCKS. THE LAST FOOD TRUCKS WE HIRED, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HIREE& THEM AT CAPISTRANO. THE PASO DEL NORTE FOUNDATION GOT THAT ONE. 
          AND THEY THEY SET THAT UPP& BECAUSE WE TEAMED UP WITH THEM FOR THE PLAYA TRAIL. SO WEE& HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S EVENTUALLY WHAT WE WILLL& BE DOING. WE WILL START LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF. WELL, WELL, I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND I'M HAPPY YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO COME SPEAK WITH US TODAY. IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO PLAN WHAT THE FUTUR& OF OUR CITY LOOKS LIKE, AND MAKING SURE WE WORK WITH NONPROFITS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO& REALLY GROW CORRECTLY, GROW RESPONSIBLY, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR,,& OUR YOUNG AND OUR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. DEFINITELY. WE THANK& YOU FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,,& THANK YOU. SO THIS ITEM WAS JUST THE DISCUSSION OR NEXT ITEM WHICH IS GOING TO BE FOR DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION O& THE RESUBMITTED REPLAT APPLICATION FOR HORIZON MANOR UNIT THREE REPLAT EIGHT, CASE NUMBER RP 002460 2020. LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT 19, BLOCK NINE HORIZON MANOR, UNIT THREE, TOWN OF HORIZON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 7.9365 ACRES PLUS MINUS. APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY CADE CONSULTING. POSTPONED ATT& THE MARCH 17TH, 2025 PNC MEETING. GOOD. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. RUBIO, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON THIS ITEM. WE'RE STILL NOT THERE YET. WEE& DID COMPLETE THE SURVEY THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE AT THAT STAGE NOW THAT THE OFFER HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR A FINAL CLOSING ON THAT PROPERTY. ARE WE LOOKING T& POSTPONE FOR NOW OR ONE MORE POSTPONEMENT? YES, SIR. OKAY, EVENTUALLY, MORE THAN LIKELYY& IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITHDRAWN BECAUSE THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TOO& CHANGE. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME APPLICANT. OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE OWNED BY THE CITY. SO A& THAT POINT THEY WOULD JUST WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION AND COME BACK WHEN THEY'RE READY. ONCE THAT POND IS BUILT, COMEE& BACK AND THEN SUBMIT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT THEY WANTT& TO DO. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO POSTPONE SECOND. MELENDEZ..& BERRY. AVILA. HI. HI. I. HI. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. 
          C DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE SUBMITTED REPLAT APPLICATION FOR MARTINEZ SUBDIVISION. CASE NUMBER SC 25 0003, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT EIGHT, BLOCK 353 HORIZON CD UNIT 47, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS CONTAINING 1.5071 ACRES PLUS MINUS APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY SIDEWALK ENGINEERING. MISTER. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. ART RUBIO AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. SO BEFORE II& START, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION. WE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING THIS, THIS SUBJECTT& BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ETJ. THIS IS IN THE ETJ. SO ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS WAS THAT THE NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION BE CHANGED TOO& HORIZON CITY UNIT 47 REPLAT. PER THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY OF HORIZON, YOU CAN NAME A PORTION OF A SUBDIVISION, A DIFFERENT NAME I& YOU'RE GOING TO REPLAT IT. 
          HOWEVER, THE COUNTY'S PREFERENC& WAS THAT IT BE CALLED A REPLAY OF THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION. SO WE HAD TO MAKE THAT CHANGE BASED ON THEIR THEIR REQUEST. SO IT IS HORIZON CITY UNIT 47 REPLAT EIGHT, NOT MARTINEZ SUBDIVISION AS INITIALLY POSTED. OKAY, SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF HORIZON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF VANDER PONT STREET. SO IT'S ON THE EASTERN PART OF ANDREW POND& WHICH IS IN THE COUNTY OR ETJ. SO THE REQUEST IS TO REPLAT. TO& DIVIDE THE SINGLE LOT INTO THREE 
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LOTS. THE LARGEST ONE IS MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 21,780FT■!S. AND THEN THE SMALLEST. I'M SORRY. AND THENN& THE LARGEST IS 22,089FT■!S. THERE'S ALREADY HOMES EXISTINGG& ON THOSE ON THAT PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THEY WANT TO SPLIT THEM UP AND DIVIDE THEM UP PER FOR EACH HOME. ACCESS FOR THE PROPERTIES OFF OF ANDREW POND AND ELEMENTS ELEMENTS IS TO KIND OF TO THE NORTH. I'LL SHOW YOU AN AERIAL OF THAT. AS FAR AS PARKLAND DEDICATION AND FEES, THERE'S NONE. THIS IS THIS IS AGAIN IN THE ETJ. SO THAT REQUIREMENT WOULDN'T APPLY. THE LEFT SIDE IS THE AERIAL MAP. THAT'S THE PROPERTY. IT'S JUST LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE CITY OF HORIZON. AGAIN IT'S A SINGLE LOT THAT THEY WANT TO DIVIDE INTO THREE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE HOMES THERE. THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THERE'S ONE THERE AND ONE THERE. TWO OF THE& ARE OFF OF ANDREW POND AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS OFF OF IT'S, IT'S TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S REALLY FRONTING ELEMENTS. BUT ISN'T IT. 
          THE OTHER CURSOR WAS POINTING AT THE RIGHT. YES. I THINK IT'S THE DIAMOND SHAPE. YEAH, IT'S THE TEAL. IT'S THE TEAL AREA. YES,,& IT'S THE TEAL AREA. BUT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT THE HOME. 
          IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE ITT& CIRCLES. YOU GOT TO GO A LITTLE LOWER. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I SEE THREE STRUCTURES WITHIN THOSE THAT BOUNDARY. THE TEAL BOUNDARY. RIGHT. SO IF I DO THE ARROW THAT'S THE HOME. WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. YES. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE, THE ACCESS OFF OF ELEMENTS. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO, THESE TWO RIGHT HERE ARE OFF OF UNDER. OKAY OKAY. GOTCHA. 
          ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT'S OF COURSE THE MAP IS WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S ALL PRIMARILY R3 AND R2. AND THEN THERE'S SOME C-2 TO THEE& SOUTH. BUT ALL THAT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE. ADJACENT PROPERTY. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IN THAT SCENARIO, NOW THAT WE'RE SUBDIVIDING, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE THREE. WHAT HAPPENS TOO& THE UTILITIES? WE DON'T TOUCH ANY OF THAT. I MEAN, THE SITES ALREADY EXIST. THOSE HOMES ALREADY EXIST. SO THERE'S ALREADY UTILITIES CONNECTED TOO& IT. THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT CONNECTED IS A SEPTIC. OKAY. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT. I MEAN, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY. BUT I WAS CURIOUS AT THAT POINT. WE SEPARATE, BUT DO WE ALSO SEPARATE COMPLETELY? THREE METERS, THREE MEASURES. THREE. CORRECT. YES, SIR. THEY WOULD..& THEY WOULD SPLIT UP TO THREE SEPARATE METERS. COOL. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDER COORDINATION WITH AIR MUD TOO& BRING WASTEWATER. THERE'S NO WASTEWATER. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SEPTIC TANKS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY'LL CONNECT TO WASTEWATER. THAT'S GOOD. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. AGAIN, THIS ISS& THE SITE. IT'S OFF OF HORIZON, NORTH OF HORIZON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF ANDREW POND. AND THIS I& THE REPLAT ITSELF. IN THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE ACTUAL RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO AGAIN, ANDREW POND. IT'S A BIG CIRCLE, BUT SO IT'S UNDER POND HERE AND IN ELEMENTS. IT'S RIGHT OVER HERE. AND THEN THE DARKER BLUE IS THE ACTUAL PONDING AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          THEY REQUIRE ON SITE PONDING FOR THE FOR THE HOMES. SO THAT'SS& WHAT THEY HAVE HERE ALREADY EXISTING. THESE THESE AREAS ARE THE FUNDING AREAS FOR THE FOR THE PROPERTY. SO THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH COUNTY STANDARDS AS FAR AS FUNDING. AND AGAIN THERE'S THREE HOMES. THERE'S ONE THERE, ONE THERE AND ONE THERE. CAN CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE I COULDN'T SEE WHAT THE UTILITY EASEMENT IS. THERE'S ONE RUNNING AND IT LOOKS LIKE ONE PROPERTY ABSORBS ALL OF IT. I THINK IT'S& IN BETWEEN THE ONES THAT YOU SEE, THAT ONE THAT'S LIKE TEN FEET IN BETWEEN. AND IT ONLY RUNS ON THE BIGGEST PROPERTY ON THE TOP LEFT. YEAH. YOU SEE THAT EASEMENT RIGHT HERE? THIS ONE, THE ONE THAT RUNS FROM THE BACK, BUT IT ONLY ABSORBS THAT ONE LOT. BUT WHAT UTILITY EASEMENTT& IS IT? I MEAN, IT COULD BE A NUMBER. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH ONES. WE JUST KNOW THATT& THEY HAVE ALL UTILITIES ALREADY IN PLACE. GAS, WATER. AND AGAIN SEWER IS GOING TO BE THROUGH SEPTIC TANKS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE FOR EACH LOT ASS& REQUIRED. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE SELLING OR THE REASON FOR SPLITTING IT UP, BUT THEYY& THEY HAVE THREE HOMES ALREADY IN THERE. THEY SELL THE AREA. MR. RUBIO, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE DOES COUNTY HAVE P AND Z? THEY THEY TAKE THEIR CASES THROUGH A THROUGH THE BOARD OFF& COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A PNC. OKAY. BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S EITHER THEY GO THROUGH THE CITY OF HORIZON BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR ETJ, OR THEY GO THROUGH THE COUNTY, AND THEN THEY ELECTED TO GO 
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THROUGH THE CITY OF HORIZON. OKAY. THEY'RE CLOSER TO USS& ANYWAY. OKAY. AND THEY'RE WITHIN OUR ETJ. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT, LIKE, PER SE, THAT IT WOULD GO THROUGH BOTH, BUT EVENTUALLY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO IS LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES THROUGH BOTH THE CITY OF HORIZON AND THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR, FOR PLATS. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ON EITHER OR THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE ASKING THIS REPLAT TO FOLLOW WOULD ADHERE TO OUR STANDARDS. AS FAR AS THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, YES. AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD BEE& THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHY I'M THAT'S WHY WE RECEIVE ALL THESE COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY FOR UTILITY CONNECTIONS AND THEN THE WAY THEY DEVELOP AND THEN FOR THEYY& DON'T HAVE SETBACKS HERE IN THE COUNTY, BUT THEY DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS PONDING.& THAT'S THE MAIN THING. NOW ASS& FAR AS ANNEXATION GOES, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THIS DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, IT REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE AFFECTED I MEAN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE THEY WOULD IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE A VOLUNTARY REQUEST TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IT REALLY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY WOULD IT WOULD HELP IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE DOING ABIDING BY OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. BUT THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO FOLLOW. THAT WOULDN'T& BE AN ISSUE. IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE ONCE THEY WOULD BE ANNEXED, IT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN. SO WHATEVER THEY HAVE, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T MEET OUR CURRENT CODES, THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. OKAY. YES, SIR. AND THEN& THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT. AND THEN THERE THERE ARE SOME PENDING COMMENTS, BUT THEY'RE PRIMARILY COORDINATION WITH COUNTY AND UTILITIES AND STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE. SO WITH THAT, WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY& DO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR HORIZON CITY AS FAR AS PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT REQUIREMENTS. SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL PENDING THOSE COMMENTS& BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL. AND AGAIN THOSE COMMENTS ARE FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADDRESSING SINCE THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING HOMES. RIGHT. THE APPLICANT WANTED TO TALK TO 911 TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO LET THEM KEEP THOSE ADDRESSES BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THE CORRECT SEQUENCE. THEY'RE I THINK THEY'RE ODD AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EVEN. SO THAT COMMENT WE'RE PENDING, THE COORDINATION THAT THEY'RE HAVING WITH 9911 TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO KEEP THOSE ADDRESSES OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM CHANGE THE ADDRESS. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE IT HERE. BUT THEY WILL HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. OKAY. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ASS& FAR AS HE WANTED THEM TO CONNECT TO. SEWER SYSTEM, BUT IT'S NOT THERE YET. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL ONGOING COORDINATION UNTIL IT GETS THERE SO THAT IT CAN CONNECT. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS THAT ARE PENDING, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE SIMPLE COMMENTS THAT CAN BEE& ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TOO& APPROVE. SUBJECT TO PENDING COMMENTS. I SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. HERNANDEZ A VERY AVILA. HI. HI. I HI. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. SO MOVING ON TO& ITEM 40. DAVID. I'M SORRY. JUST A SECOND. I'M GOING TO DRESSS& REALLY QUICK. THE BORDERLAND COMMITTEE ADVENTURE. BORDERLAND COMMUNITY ADVENTURES GROUP. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY STARVING. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO STAY HERE FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING. SO YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, DON'T FEEL FORCED OR OBLIGATED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE NUMBERS. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE REST OF THE STUFF IS GOING TO BE KIND OF DRY. GOOD JOB GUYS. NOT AS EXCITING AS GETTING ON A BIKE. IT'S INTERESTING THOUGH. YEAH IT IS. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO. NEXT ITEM OKAY. SO ITEM 40 DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE SUBMITTED FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR VALENCIA UNIT ONE. CASE NUMBER 25 0001. RECORDING OF THE FINAL PLAT PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF ALL REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS. SECURE SUFFICIENT BOND AND TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE RECORDING PLAT, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING ALL OF TRACT ONE TO F, THREE D AND THREE H, AND A PORTION OF TRACK TWO, THREE, AND THREE B. SECTION 30, BLOCK 78, TOWNSHIP THREE TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILWAY COMPANY SERVING AND VACATING PORTIONS OF TOWN OF HORIZON CITY RIGHT OF WAY. EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 103.068 ACRES PLUS MINUS APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT 
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REPRESENTATIVE SIA GROUP. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. RUBIO. AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS. OKAY, SO THIS IS VALENCIA UNITT& ONE, THE FINAL SUBDIVISION. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF EAST LAKE BOULEVARD AND EAST OF DESERT SPRING DRIVE. AND THE. 
          THE REQUEST IS FOR 389 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH INCLUDES TWO PARKS, OPEN SPACE, AMENITIES, TWO PONDING AREAS, AND THERE WERE FIVEE& MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU ALL SAW AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE. I DIDN'T WANT TO LIKE, GO ALL OVER THEM UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO, BUT THERE'S FIVE MODIFICATIONS, PRIMARILY TO RIGHTS OF WAY AND THEN ALSO CUL DE SAC, PRIMARILY SO THAT THEY COULD DO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING LIKE IN THE MEDIANS AND STUFF, AND THEN ALSO TOO& ALIGN THE STREETS TO EXISTING COUNTY ROADS. WITH OUR STANDARDS, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IT. SO THEY NEEDED THOSE MODIFICATIONS. AND THEN THEE& OTHER REQUEST WAS TO VACATE THOSE, IF YOU REMEMBER THE STUB OUTS. IS EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH STUB OUTS. STUB TOWER STUB OUT.& SO THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE IS WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A SUBDIVISION AND THEN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN AN AREA WHERE WHERE IT'S GOING INTO LIKE A SEPARATE PART OF A SUBDIVISION, AND YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THAT YET. YOU LEAVE WHAT'S CALLED A STUB, THE DEAD END. RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S BLOCKED. THERE'S LIKE A BARRIER, BUT IT'S READY FOR LIKE THE NEXT SUBDIVISION COMES, YOU CONNECT TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE UTILITIES WOULD BE IN THERE READY TO CONNECT. IN THIS& CASE, SINCE WE WEREN'T, THOSE WERE NOT GOING TO BE USED. ITT& WAS GOING TO BE MOSTLY FOR THIS SUBDIVISION. THEY REQUESTED THAT WE VACATE THOSE THROUGH VACATION. IT'S ESSENTIALLY CEDING THAT PROPERTY OVER TOO& THEM, WHICH IS A SMALL, VERY SMALL PORTION OF PROPERTY. 
          ANYWAYS, RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE SEATED OVER. SO THAT'S THAT WAS& THE REQUEST AS FAR AS ACCESS. 
          THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 52 FOOT RIGHTS OF WAY RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS, 54 FOOT RIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL SUB COLLECTOR STREETS, 68 FOOT RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS, ENHANCED ENTRANCES AND AGAIN ALL THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED AS FAR AS PARK LIKE PARKLAND. DEDICATION AND FEES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO DEDICATE TWO AND A HALF ACRES AND A FEE OF 5600. 
          THE APPLICANT DID COME IN WITH AN OVERAGE OF 0.243 ACRES, WHICH IS GOING TO BE. ACCUMULATED WIT& THE NEXT SUBDIVISION, WHICH ISS& UNIT TWO. ON THE LEFT SIDE ISS& THE AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 101 ACRES, 389 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AGAIN INCLUDING PARKS, TWO PARKS, TWO PONDING AREAS, AND THEN SOME COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND IN THE AMENITIES AREA ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE ZONING MAP. IT'S ALL R3 RESIDENTIAL WITH PORTION THAT'S S1 FOR THE AMENITIES, OPEN SPACE, AND THEN AGAIN SOME SMALL PORTIONS OF COMMERCIAL TO& THE SOUTH IN THIS AREA. IF YOUU& WANT TO LOOK AT THE ARROW ACTUALLY. SO RIGHT THERE OKAY. 
          AND THERE'S THE S1 THE OPENN& SPACE FOR THE AMENITY AREA. THERE'S THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF. 
          THE AND IT'S IN THREE PHASES. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE PHASES TO THE SUBDIVISION FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES. THEY WILL THEY WILL RECORD THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY LOTS, STAFF IS OKAY FOR THEM TO COME IN IN PHASES. SO IT'LL BE LIKE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. OKAY, SO THAT'LL BE CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIRST PART, THE SECONDD& PART, AND THEN THE THIRD PART. AND THEY DID SUBMIT A PHASING PLAN, WHICH I THINK WE FORGOT T& PUT IN. SORRY SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THAT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY BROUGHT THERE. I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. RUBIO FOR THAT PHASING PLAN. DO YOU HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. THE TIMELINE FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S PRETTY QUICK IN. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. HE CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY THE PHASING FOR THE TIMELINE CONSTRUCTION. YES, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, GEORGE GRAGEDA WITH CITIGROUP. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT AT WHAT WE CALL WHAT WE SHOW THERE AS VN1 THAT WRAPPING UP THAT BY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY V2 AND V3 ARE, ARE GETTING MOVING AS WELL. BEHIND THEM. 
          RIGHT BEHIND THEM. OKAY. IF YOU& DON'T MIND ME ASKING THE FIRST PHASE, HOW MANY LOTS IS THEE& FIRST PHASE? I HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION PHASE. SORRY. YEAH. NO, I BROUGHT IT TO. BUT. SO 175 RESIDENTIAL SPACE JUST FOR THAT. THAT'S GONNA BE NICE. LEON2. IT'S 214, WHICH IS V2 AND V3 TOGETHER. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE COMBINED INTO, YOU KNOW, ALL AT ONCE THE SAME ROLLOUT. YEAH. 
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OKAY. SO TOTAL IS 389 LOTS. SURE. I ZOOMED IN ON THE LOTS AND IT'S A IT'S VERY WELL BALANCED. I THINK THE SMALLESTT& IS MAYBE A 55 AND THEN MAYBE A HANDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, END UPP& IN AN ODD LOCATION BUT MAYBE LONGER. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE SKYROCKETS FROM THERE. SO SOME BIG LOTS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM IS 5500 SQUARE FOOT LOT. AND THEN AND YOU HAVE& SOME CUL DE SAC LOTS THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU GET A LITTL& BIT WIDER, LOTS REAL HEALTHY. 
          THOSE ARE, I THINK MAYBE THE BIGGEST CUL DE SAC. LOTS, MAYBE ABOUT 12,000FT■!S. WOW. SO THEY ARE GOING TO VARY, YOU KNOW, IN LOT SIZES. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, THIS MIGHT NOT EVEN DEAL YOU, BUT YOU MIGHT GUIDE ME. BUT WHEN I SEE YOU GUYS DOING YOUR WORK LIKE THIS, AND THERE'S A MAJOR STREET LIKE EAST EASTLAKE BOULEVARD, DO YOU, DOO& YOU GUYS HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN AA& PART OF THE SIDEWALKS? WE WEREE& JUST TALKING EARLIER. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN THERE'S SOME SOLAR LIGHTING RIGHT NOW ON SOME OF YOUR WORK IN THE PAST. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GOES OUT WITH THIS OR IS SOMETHING SEPARATE? NO. SO IT'S SO ONE OF& THE THINGS THAT THAT THE DEVELOPER'S DOING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENTLY ON, ON THIS ENTIRE VALENCIA IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAILS, OPEN SPACE, AMENITY CENTERS, A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY FROM WITH THE PARKS TO THE STREETS. THE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGSS& THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE EASTLAKE BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, RIGHT. THAT THEY ENJOY IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S RIGHT NOW. IT'S ONLY A TEN FOOT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AS& WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING IT. 
          THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY WANTED T& ADD 25 MORE FEET OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ON EACH SIDE OF EASTLAKE THAT'S GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE A SECONDARY MEANDERING SIDEWALK TO, YOU KNOW, BUFFER THE PEDESTRIANS WITH THE CYCLISTS, MAYBE AT THAT POINT. SO THIS IS THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CROSS SECTIONS THAT THAT WE PRESENTED DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY GOING OUT TO, TOO& BUILD. BUT PASEO BOULEVARD IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE THAT EXTENSION OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON EACH SIDE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR HOUSE ABUTTING THE ROCK WALL AND PUTTING THE THAT SIDEWALK. YEAH, KIND OF LIKE YOUR NOLAN RICHARDSON'S AND ALL THOSE THAT& WERE JUST LIKE BARRIERS INSTEAD OF. RIGHT. AND ALSO SO THEY BROUGHT KIND OF THAT THAT IDEA FROM, FROM SOME TOWNS IN, IN THE PHOENIX AREA, SAHUARITA, ARIZONA AREA. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, THE IDEAS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING INTO THEIR ESCAPES. YEAH. CORRECT. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO IT OR HE IS GOING TO DO IT. NO, THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT. YEAH. OKAY. AND ALTHOUGH IN ALL THE LANDSCAPING, ALL THAT LANDSCAPING, IT'S ALLL& IT'S ALL GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CREATING AN HOA TOO& KIND OF LIKE FROM THE PAST ONES LIKE THE SAME AMENITY LIKE LIKE THAT COMMUNITY FEEDS, THAT AMENITY CENTER AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. CORRECT. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS ACTUALLY OUR SECOND SUBDIVISION. NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING THAT'S GOING TOO& HAVE IT'S ANOTHER AMENITY, CENTER PARCS COMMERCIAL SUITE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE JUMPING AHEAD OF YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. RUBIO. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE& BIT ABOUT THE AMENITY CENTER? HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE ONE THAT JUST OPENED UP IN EL PASO? SO, SO THE AMENITY CENTERS WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK JUST RECENTLY I THINK THEY GOT APPROVED BY, BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO& HAVE A PICKLEBALL COURTS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LAP SWIMMING POOL AREAS, KID FAMILY FRIENDLY, YOU KNOW, POOL AREA. AND I THINK I THINK IT HAS SOME, SOME GYM EQUIPMENT AS WELL. JUST SO. AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BEE& RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO A PUBLIC PARK TO THE PARK. SO IT'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW. INTERCHANGE THA& GETS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. I SORRY. GO FOR IT. GO FOR IT. MY BROTHER LIVES IN SAN ANTONIO AND HE LIVES IN ONE OF THESE COMMUNITIES. AND HE HE TOOK ME TO THEIR AMENITY CENTER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT IN& MY MIND WAS THAT THIS AMENITY CENTER, THEY HAD A STRUCTURE WHERE THE COMMUNITY COULD GATHER FOR LIKE EVENTS, LIKE A PARTY OR FOR HOLIDAYS, AND IT INCLUDED LIKE A LITTLE MINI KITCHEN AREA. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS& ARE DOING AS WELL OR. I'M NOT TOO SURE. ON THE ON THE ON THAT ON THE KITCHEN AREA. THE WE DID NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGN THE AMENITY CENTER, BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE. I'LL PROBABLY GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY, LISTEN. AND I'M HOPING IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS, ISS& THE AMENITY CENTER ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE THAT PAY INTO THE HOA? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THOUGH, THE IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT PAY HOA AND TO THEIR GUESTS. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GOING T& BE RUN. I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING UP THE AGREEMENTS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THEY ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, TO CITY 
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STAFF SO THEY COULD SEE THE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE COVENANTS PRIOR TO RECORDING THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. BUT I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE FOR GAS OR JUST THE PEOPL& THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. OKAY. COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON ONE OF THE THINGS& THAT I NOTICED WAS THE FIRST POINT AFTER WHERE IT SAYS APPLICATION DESCRIPTION. IT SAYS MODIFICATION FROM A 52 FOOT WIDE RESIDENTIAL SUB COLLECTOR STREE& RIGHT OF WAY TO A 54 FOOT WIDE STREET RIGHT AWAY. WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND THAT? SO, SO TYPICALLY WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH THE ESD, THE FIRE MARSHALS, THEY TYPICALLY LIKE 54 FOOT AT MINIMUM ROADWAY WIDTH. THERE IS, I THINK, MAYBE 1 OR 2 OF YOUR EXISTING SUBDIVISION STREETS. THAT IS ON A 52. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE JUST A WIDER STREET, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR PURPOSES OF THE FIREE& MARSHAL AND THE FIRE TRUCKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IS THAT THERE'S ALSO SOME COUNTY ROADS THERE. AND THEN FOR THEM TO ALIGN THEM, RIGHT, THEY DON'T NEED TO EITHER MAKE A LARGER MODEL OR THE CASE MAYBE MAKES SENSE. YES, SIR. YO& DID MENTION THAT I APOLOGIZE. 
          YEAH. AND UNDER THE FINAL PLAT COMMENTS, IT MENTIONED A PERCOLATION TEST AND SOIL ANALYSIS. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS WERE FOR THOSE TESTS? FOR THE ON SITE WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, FOR THE PERCOLATION TEST? I MEAN, IT PRICKED WITHIN REGULATION WITHIN THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. SOO& EVERYTHING WAS FINE. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO CAN YOU CONFIRM WHETHER THE UTILITY LINES UNDER THE TOWN ENGINEER COMMENTS. CAN YOU CONFIRM WHETHER EXISTING UTILITY LINES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAT AS REQUIRED UNDER SECTION FOURR& POINT, 2.2.5? I THINK THAT WAS A COMMENT FOR UNIT TWO, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT WAS I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S THE NEXT SUBDIVISION I THINK. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN THOSE COMMENTS TYPICALLY, SIR, THEY COME INN& UNDER THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS. AND THEN WE ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TO THE ACTUAL DETAIL OF THE DESIGN. AND THEYY& COME AT THE IMPROVEMENT STAGE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. OH THEN JUST ONE MORE. JUST ONE MORE. I'M SORRY. 
          SO UNDER GIVEN THE SUBDIVISIONS, PROXIMITY, PROXIMITY TO HORIZON& HIGH SCHOOL, I KNOW CLINT ISD HAD NO EXCEPTION OR TAKES NO EXCEPTION TO THE INFORMATION PRESENTED, BUT HAVE YOU ALL BEE& IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FUTURE STUDENT IMPACT PROJECTIONS TOO& BUS ROUTES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND MAKING SURE WE DESIGN THIS AREA TO BE, YOU KNOW, BUS ROUTE FRIENDLY? WELL, WE DID MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR THEIR CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER. AS FAR AS THE ENTIRE MASTER PLAN, WE DO HAVE TWO, TWO, TWO PLACES FOR ALLOCATION FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS. IT'S NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR MAP. IT'S ON THE OVERALL. BUT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN IN A PARCEL OF LAND TO EXPAND HORIZON HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF WAIT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR, I GUESS WE CALL IT THE NORTH PARCEL, WHICH IS MAYBE JUST NORTH OF THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, UNITT& ONE, SUBDIVISION TWO, TO LET US KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WILLING ALSO TOO& OBVIOUSLY TO PURCHASE THE LAND FOR MAYBE A FUTURE ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL. BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY COMMITTED YET. OKAY. AND ALSO TYPICALLY ONCE WE DISTRIBUTE THOSE SUBDIVISIONS, WE'LL GET COMMENTS FROM THEM AS WELL. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. WEE& WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THAT. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF IN THE LIGHT BLUE AGAIN IS THE RIGHTS OF WAY. AND THENN& YOU CAN SEE THE CUL DE SAC WITH& THE MODIFICATIONS THAT THEYY& ASKED IS PRIMARILY TO ADD LANDSCAPING IN THE CENTER ARE TYPICAL CUL DE SAC IS ALL RIGHT AWAY BUT THEY'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. THEYY& LOOK REALLY NICE. AND THEN IN THE DARKER BLUE IS THE PONDING AREAS. AND THEN THE LIGHT GRAY IS THE AMENITY CENTER THAT THAT& WAS DISCUSSED. AND THEN IN RED IS OF COURSE THE COMMERCIAL SIT& THAT WAS WAS DISCUSSED. THIS IS& THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND THEN THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. IT INCLUDES A POND AND THEN A TRAIL IN ORANGE HERE. 
          RIGHT ALONG HERE. MY AND AGAIN THE MAJORITY OF IT IS ALL ADDITIONAL OR LARGER SIDEWALKS. 
          THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE ASKED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF WAY. WITH THAT, THERE WERE NO REAL ADVERSE COMMENTS PENDING..& WE SAY NO PENDING, BUT THERE WAS A FEW THAT WERE STILL THERE. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE MORE OF COORDINATION TYPE COMMENTS AND SOME OF IT WILL GET ADDRESSED AT THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS. WHEN IT'& THAT SPECIFIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING POPULATION THAT'S THAT'S WAY TOO SPECIFIC. SO WITH THAT IT DOES MEET THE MINIMUM 
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REQUIREMENTS OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL PENDING ANY MINOR COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL. AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS..& THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS. NO. OKAY. THEN I DO I, I THINK IT WAS POINT NUMBER FIVE ON THE LETTER FROM CEA GROUP. IT TALKS ABOUT THE CUL DE SAC, INTERIOR, PARKING, LANDSCAPE, ISLANDS. AND I DON'T KNOW AGAIN IF I MIGHT BE JUMPING AHEAD OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WE MIGHT BE GETTING INTO THE I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO. YEAH. ENGINEER COMMENT. RIGHT. REGARDING THE LET'S SEE IT'S LETTER. IT'S AA& LETTER FROM THE CEA GROUP. YES,& SIR. THAT'S ON UNIT TWO. THAT'S FOR UNIT TWO. YEAH, THAT'S. 
          THOSE ARE THE MODIFICATION REQUESTS THAT THEY MADE THROUGH A LETTER. I'M SEEING IT UNDER 4D. THE 3D, WHICH IS THIS IS WHICH IS UNIT ONE. RIGHT. YEAH. YES. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. 
          COMMISSIONER. THERE IS. SO PART OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS WAS TO BE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, THE CUL DE SACS WITH THE LANDSCAPE EASEMENTS. WE DO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR CUL DE SAC ON THAT ONE. WE ARE PROVIDING ABOUT 6 OR 7 SPACES WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR CUL DE SAC AS WELL. OKAY. SOO& AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT COMMENT FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER. I SEE IT AS A LETTER. RIGHT. IT IS A MODIFICATION LETTER FROMM& CA. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? LET ME SEE. YEAH. NUMBER FIVE. OH. NUMBER FIVE. YEAH. 
          MODIFICATION COMPARED TO THE COMMENT. RIGHT. I'M SORRY. INN& OTHER WORDS, COMPARED TO THE COMMENT THAT THE ENGINEER MADE REGARDING THAT ONE. MY QUESTION PERTAINS MORE TO OF A OF A EXPLANATION SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW THIS ISLAND WORKS WITH PARKING. 
          LANDSCAPE, PARKING, SLASH LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. THIS IS THIS IS A NEW TERM FOR ME. SO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST INSTEAD OF JUST BEING ALL PAVED. RIGHT. THE CUL DE SAC. THAT'S WHY YOUR& CODE JUST RIGHT NOW JUST HAS IT ALL PAVED. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE INTRODUCING A SMALL PORTION OF THE LANDSCAPE MEDIAN THAT WILL ALSO BE MAINTAINED BY, BY THE HOA. ON THIS. CAN YOU POINT TO THE CURLY ON THAT PARTICULAR CUL DE SAC? THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPE, AND IT WILL HAVEE& ABOUT 6 OR 7 PARKING STALLS. SO AND USUALLY THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE GUESTS OVER THERE, THEY DON'T START STACKING UP THE CUL DE SAC. SO YOU HAVE A LITTL& BIT OF, OF, OF PARKING FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE. YOU GUYS HAVEE& DONE THEM BEFORE. I'VE SEEN THEM. I MEAN, THEY LITERALLY RESEMBLE A ROUNDABOUT. BUT IT'S& LIKE THAT IN THE PARKING ARE ON& THE OTHER HALF OF THE MOON. YEAH, IT'S ON THE INSIDE. AND W& COORDINATED THAT WITH THE, WITH& THE FIRE MARSHALS AS WELL WITHH& THE ESD FOLKS. JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED TEMPLATES SHOWING THEM, YOU KNOW, HOW THE TRUCK IS STILL GO AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE AREA. SO IT'S COOL BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR PROBLEM, BECAUSE THE CUL DE SAC& ARE COOL. EVERYBODY WANTS THEM. BUT THEN WHEN YOU INVITE GUESTS, YOUR NEIGHBOR DOESN'T LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S CAULKING UP EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YEAH, IT KIND OF HELPS A LITTLE. 
          TYPICALLY, THE FRONTAGE OF THE LOTS ARE KIND OF NARROW. SO HE'S TALKING ABOUT. SO YOU TRY TOO& PARK HERE IT'S DIFFICULT. SO YOU CAN INCLUDE PARKING HERE. RIGHT. EXACTLY. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD THE DIAGRAM OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKEE& IN THE STAFF REPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL INCLUDED IT IN THIS PRESENTATION. THE REASON W& DON'T HAVE IT IN THERE BECAUSEE& WE'RE AT THE FINAL STAGE. YOU SAW THAT? THE PRELIMINARY. PRELIMINARY? OKAY. THAT'S SPECIFIC. TYPICALLY THE PRELIMINARY HAS ALL THE TOPO AND THEN THE SPECIFICS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ALL THAT. BUT THE FINAL IS USUALLY JUST YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT YOU'RE JUST FINALIZING THAT. AND SO THESE PARKING SPACES, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT ASSIGNED TO PARTICULAR HOUSES. 
          RIGHT. NO THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE PUBLIC. IT'S PUBLIC. OKAY. AND SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE HOA ALSO ADDRESSES? YES, THE HOA IS ALSO IT'S ALSO MAINTAINING THE PARKING, THE PARKING AREAS AS WELL, AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE SIGNAGE THAT GOES WITH IT. YEAH. AND WILL THEY DECIDE ALSO WHAT FIXTURES GO ON THE PUBLIC PARK VIEWS OR THOSE ARE THOSE COME LATER WITH THE CITY. NO. SO THAT THAT'S JUST THE THAT'S JUST THE LANDSCAPE. THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER HAS ALREADY LANDSCAPED AND PROVIDED AS A MATTER OF FACT, THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVEDD& AS WELL. NICE. AND SO THAT'SS& WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, CONSTRUCTING AND ALL THAT. COOL. AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK, ARE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS ARE THOSE ALS& PART OF THE HOA OR ARE THOSE COMPLETELY SEPARATE? THOSE ARE SEPARATE. OKAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. YOUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN. I'M SORRY, MR. RUBIO. I DON'T EVENN& KNOW IF YOU WERE DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT WOULD BE RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TOO& LIKE MINOR COMMENTS BEING ADDRESSED. THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE TOWN ENGINEER 
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COMMENT. AND WHAT IT WAS IS THAT THERE WAS A CONFUSION BETWEEN THE SURVEYOR AND THE ACTUAL MODIFICATION THAT WAS REQUIRED, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE PROVIDED A REVISED PLAN THAT MEETS THE MODIFICATION THAT WAS APPROVED INITIALLY. THAT'S ALL. SO WHEN THEY TRANSFERRED OVER FROM THE PRELIMINARY TO THE FINAL, THEY, THEY THEY DIDN'TT& GET THE CORRECT CALL OUT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY CALLED OUT MORE OF THIS LIKE RIGHT AWAYY& INSTEAD OF THE ACTUALL& MODIFICATION. RIGHT. CORRECT. S& BUT THEY CORRECTED THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED IT. THE REVISED RIGHT. YOU SUBMITTED THATT& ALREADY. AND I THINK THAT WASS& THE ONLY MAJOR ISSUE. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEING ADDRESSED. SO PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THAT CLEANED UP FOR THEM AND THEN SUBMITTED. SO THE PENDING COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. 
          OKAY. YES, SIR. BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD FOR YOU ALL. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS PRIOR TO COUNCIL, YOU'LL HAVE THE CLEAN VERSION ALREADY SUBMITTED. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED. WE JUST NEED TO& PUT IT IN. THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED. TECHNICALLY, THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. SO THIS WOULD BE& AN APPROVAL OR A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. IT WOULD BE AN APPROVAL. YES, SIR. BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. 
          OKAY. YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. I'M SORRY. I WAS GETTING THE ONE AND TWO MIXED UP. BARRY. I. AVILA I AY AY AY. 
          OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION O& THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR VIDANTA UNIT TWO, CASE NUMBER SDP 25 0002, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING A PORTION OF SECTION 32, BLOCK 78, TOWNSHIP THREE TEXAS AND PACIFIC RAILWAY COMPANY SERVICE. EL PAS& COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 69.31 ACRES PLUS MINUS APPLICATION. SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE C. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS IS THE UNIT TWO PRELIMINARY. THE REQUEST IS FOR& A 210 RESIDENTIAL LOT SUBDIVISION. IT INCLUDES ONE COMMERCIAL AREA AND TWO PUBLIC PARKS, ONE AMENITY SITE AND TWO PONDING AREAS. IT ALSO INCLUDES COMMON OPEN SPACE. I FORGOT TOO& MENTION THAT. ACCESS. PRIMARY ACCESS IS FROM EASTLAKE BOULEVARD, AND PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS WITHINN& THE SUBDIVISION. AS FAR AS PARKLAND DEDICATION AND FEES, THE EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, BRINGING IN AN ADDITIONAL TWO. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE PARKLAND IS ACCUMULATING. SO THEIR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT WAS 0.76. BUT THEYY& BROUGHT IN TWO TWO AND A HALF. I THINK IT WAS RIGHT TWO AND A HALF. SO YOU ADD THAT TO THAT AND IT ACCUMULATES FOR THE NEXT SUBDIVISION. SO IT GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER. AND AS FAR AS FEES FOR THIS ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 15,000. IN FEES. TO THE LEFT IS THE AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. PRIMARILY VACANT ALL AROUND. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS THE ZONING MAP. IT'S PRIMARILY ZONED R3, S1 PORTION OF S1 RIGHT UP HERE. AND THEN COMMERCIAL C-2 COMMERCIAL A PORTION OF IT AS WELL. ALL THAT WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION. THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP AGAIN. IT'S NORTH OF. I'M SORRY. SOUTH OF. SOUTH. SORRY. SOUTHWEST OF EASTLAKEE& BOULEVARD. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. AGAIN THERE'S THE. NO, THE ACTUALLY THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, INCLUDING A PORTION OF COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH THERE. AND THEN IN GREEN AGAIN IS THE PARKLAND. AND THEN THE LIGHTER GREEN IS THE OPEN SPACE RIGHT OVER HERE. LET ME SHOW IT TO YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARROW, IT'S RIGHT IN HERE. WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST VISUAL LIKE? KEY WORD. LIKE IF I'M LOOKING A& IF I'M DRIVING IN A PUBLIC PARK, I SEE FIXTURES, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PLAYSTATION OR COMMON OPEN SPACE. AND THEN WHAT IS A COMMON SPACE TYPICALLY. IT'S AREAS THAT ARE UNDISTURBED. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LANDSCAPEDD& LIKE LITTLE XERISCAPE MAYBE. RIGHT. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LANDSCAPED. SOMETIMES IT'S IN A NATURAL STATE, BUT IN THIS CASE YOU'RE GOING TO LANDSCAPE IT, RIGHT? RIGHT. CORRECT. 
          LANDSCAPING. THERE MIGHT BE SOME LIGHTING, RIGHT? LIGHTING AND POSSIBLY MAYBE SOME SOME 
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MONUMENTATION. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT MONUMENTATION TO IT AS WELL. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? MONUMENTATION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE THEY GOING TO PUT SOO& THEY'RE PROPOSING LIKE WAYFINDING AS WELL LIKE TO GETT& TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WALKING ON THE TRAILS AND YOU KNOW, IT'LL NAME THE PARK THAT YOU KNOW, AHEAD, YOU KNOW, THREE MILES UP OR SOMETHING, RIGHT. 
          AND THEN MONUMENTATION AS WELL. YOU KNOW, CALLING THE, THE, THE EACH NEIGHBORHOOD PART IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO HAVE IT'SS& KIND OF ITS OWN. I'M GOING TOO& CALL IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NAME. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND PROVIDE MONUMENTATION A LOT OF THOSE MONUMENTATION IS GOING TO COME IN AT THE ENHANCED ENTRANCES. W& CALL THEM THE ENHANCED ENTRANCES. RIGHT. LIKE, SO WHAT& YOU SEE THERE OFF OF EASTLAKE, THEY'LL HAVE A LANDSCAPED MEDIAN AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE SOME COMMON OPEN SPACE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED ALONG THE CORNERS. AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO CALL OUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NAME. OKAY. YEAH. 
          SO YOU JUST PASSED OVER ON I THINK IT'S ON THE OVERALL YOU SAW ALL THE DIFFERENT OCOTILLO. 
          YEAH. THE OCOTILLO AND. RIGHT. OKAY. SO JUST TO BUILD CHARACTER TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IDENTIFIES IT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. ALL RIGHT. NICE. AND THEN THIS IS THE SOUTHERNN& PART OF THE SUBJECT AGAIN. THIS AREA HERE IS MORE THE. I MEAN, THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL. I MEAN, THAT'S THE AMENITY SITE. SORRY. IT'S THE AMENITY SITE. I GOT IT CONFUSED WITH ANOTHER PART. THI& IS THE AMENITY SITE. THIS IS THE PARK. AND THEN THERE'S A POND AREA AS WELL IN THERE. AND THEN THERE'S A TRAIL TO THE SOUTH HERE IN THIS AREA HERE IN ORANGE. NICE. AND AGAIN IN YELLOW IS THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION. THE. PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. THESE ARE THE CROSS SECTIONS. ON THE TOP IS THE STANDARD WHICH IS A 52 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND ON THE BOTTOM IS THEIR MODIFICATION AND THEIR DIFFERENT MODIFICATIONS IS TYPICALLY TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AREA LIKE ON THIS, THIS CROSS SECTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AREA. BUT THE REST OF IT IS PRIMARILY KIND OF LIKE THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PAVEMENT WIDTH. AND THEN THE PARKWAY, WHICH INCLUDES THAT PARKWAY AND THEN SIDEWALK, FIVE FOOT AND FIVE FOOT. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE MODIFICATIONS. THE STANDARD AGAIN IS 68 FOOT. AND THEN IT PROPOSES AGAIN 68 FOOT. HOWEVER, AGAIN THEY'RE MODIFYING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND LANDSCAPING ON THE MEDIAN, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS NOT TYPICAL OF THE STANDARD CROSS SECTION. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S NOT NOT LANDSCAPED. THERE'S ANOTHER MODIFICATION, 6& TO 64 AGAIN TO DO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND SIDEWALKS. THIS IS A 76 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A 78 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AGAIN TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE MEDIAN RIGHT HERE. AND THEN A PARKWAY FIVE FOOT AND FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK. AND THIS IS THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S 120 FOOT. IT'S EASTLAKE BOULEVARD. AND THESE ARE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CUL DE SAC ON THESE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LANDSCAPING IN THE CENTER. THE STANDARD HAS NO LANDSCAPING. THE MODIFICATION WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY GOING FROM A 50 FOOT RADIUS TO A 45 FOOT. NO, 24 FOOT RADIUS. RIGHT. NO. SO THERE'S STILL THERE'S STILL THERE'S STILL 50 FOOT RADIUS. STILL FOOT RADIUS. IT'S JUST A WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE ADDING THE LANDSCAPING SO IT'S NOT THE FULL. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S NOT FULL RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S 244& FOOT DRIVEWAYS ALL AROUND AND THEN OR DRIVING LANES. I'M SORRY. 20, 24 FOOT DRIVING LANES ALL AROUND. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LANDSCAPING IN THE MIDDLE, WHEREAS ON THE OTHER ONE YOU'D HAVE THE FULL FOOT 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, ALL ALL PAVED. AND THEN THE OTHER MODIFICATION THEY'RE REQUESTING IS FOR A WHAT'S CALLED A CUL DE SAC. I DON'T THINK THESE ARE AS COMMON IN HORIZON CITY, BUT THEY'RE COMIN& IN WITH THIS, THIS ONE. AND REALLY THE REASON THEY'RE DOING IT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE CONNECTIN& TO THESE TRAILS, WHICH KIND OF MAKES SENSE. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A BETTER DESIGN BECAUSE THE TYPICAL THAT YOU WOULD SEE, LIK& IN THE CITY OF EL PASO, WOULD BE LIKE A 60 FOOTER. AND THIS ONE IS A TOTAL OF 94 FOOT, 90 FOOT, 90 FOOT FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THE PAVEMENT WIDTH IS 344& FOOT HERE, WHEREAS THE CITY OF EL PASO WOULD BE A NARROWER. AND I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE LIKE AN ACTUAL CALL OUT. BUT IT'S A NARROWER I DON'T HAVE IT& HERE, BUT IT'S A NARROWER PAVEMENT WIDTH THAN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ACTUALLY A BETTER A BETTER DESIGN. YEAH. YEAH. WIDER. SO NICE. WITH THAT. THERE WERE SOME PENDING MINOR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE AS WELL. IT'S AGAIN, IT'S MOSTLY COORDINATION ON SOME OF 
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THE THINGS THAT ARE LIKE MORE DETAILS, BUT THEY MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. WITH THAT WEE& DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIREMENTSS& AND DISREGARD THE FINAL SHOULD BE SHOULD BE A FINAL PRELIMINARY PLAT. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. I JUST HAD TWO. SOO& HAVE TRAFFIC OR DRAINAGE IMPACTS BEEN REVIEWED? CONSIDERING THE SUBDIVISIONS PROXIMITY TOO& HORIZON BOULEVARD? YES, SIR. SO& AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SOMETHING THIS LARGE, THEY REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS USUALLY ADDRESSED AT THE IMPROVEMENT STAGE. THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS. RIGHT. AND THAT THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN STAGE WILL DETERMINE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MITIGATION REQUIRED THROUGH TRAFFIC LIGHTS, STOP SIGNS OR ANY OTHER MITIGATION THAT'S REQUIRED BASED ON ON THE TRAFFIC THAT THEY'RE INTRODUCING TO THE AREA. THANK YOU, MR. RUBIO. JUST ONE MORE. HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS OR NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS SUBMITTED PUBLIC COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION? SO THESE SUBDIVISIONS, LIKE THE REGULAR SUBDIVISIONS, ARE TYPICALLY NOT NOTIFIED. TYPICALLY, IT'S ONLY REPLANTS TO A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, DEGREE, LIKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS. SO THESE DON'T HAVE THAT& TYPE OF NOTIFICATION. THE ONLY NOTIFICATION WE DO ON THESE IS THE AGENDAS THE CITY COUNCIL, PNC AGENDAS AND THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS. SO NO, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY ANY COMMENTS. HOWEVER, ON THESE COMMENTS WOULD REALLY BE SPECIFIC TO ANY CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT BEING MET. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN ZONING. 
          AND ZONING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH YOU'RE BLOCKING MY VIEW OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU DON'T LIKE. BUT SUBDIVISIONS, IT'S THERE'S REALLY NO GRAY AREAS. YOU EITHER MEET THE CODE OR YOU DON'T. AND THEY DO HERE. AND REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER COMMENTS WOULD COME IN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC TO A CODE SECTION THAT THEY WOULD MEET. SO AND THE CODES ARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. YES, SIR. MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IN THIS CASE THEY'RE GOING ABOVE. 
          EXACTLY. THEY'RE GOING ABOVE THE CODE AND PARK DEDICATION PARKLAND DEDICATION AND ABOVE B& THOSE MODIFICATIONS, BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPROVING THE AREA WITHOUT ADDING MORE LANDSCAPING AND MORE SIDEWALKS TO WIDER SIDEWALKS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO LEAD TO. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE AVERAGE WIDTH OF A SIDEWALK IS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE? TYPICALLY IT'S FIVE FEET, BUT IN SOME AREAS WE'RE BRINGING IN MUCH WIDER EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS. THE MAJOR ARTERIES. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE THE HOA ALSO MAINTAINN& THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING ABOVE OUR STANDARDS. IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T MAINTAIN AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK. 
          WE COULD ONLY MAINTAIN AN EIGHT FOOT. SO THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO FOR THE HOA TO MAINTAIN THOSE. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEY'LL BE IN THE COVENANTS AS WELL. OKAY. ALL THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. CAN WE GO BACK TOO& THE T CUL DE SACS? YES, SIR. AND SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS STANDARD. OR WHAT'S TYPICAL FOR EL PASO. YES, SIR. AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS, IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. RIGHT? CORRECT. YES, SIR. AND SO BUT AND I THINK YOU TOLD ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIMENSIONS. RIGHT? WE DO. I MEAN, JUST AS FAR AS THE WIDTH. HERE. LET ME SEE. LIKE THIS IS 60FT VERSUS 90. 94FT HERE. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT I DON'T HAVE IS THE WIDTH HERE. OKAY. ON A, ONN& THE TABLE I THINK THE, THE MINIMUM ON YOUR SECTION IS 28FT. THIS ONE'S 34. SO 34. RIGHT. BUT WITH TOTAL IF YOU ADD SIDEWALKK& AND PARKWAY IT'S 54. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE ITEM THAT ALL PENDING COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TOO& PRESENTATION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. YEAH. YEAH. MELENDEZ, A VERY I. A OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH..& THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB MAN. GOOD JOB. OKAY SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE OTHER BUSINESSES. 
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ITEM FIVE EIGHT DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON MARCH 17TH, 2025. MISTER CHAIR, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT, I JUST PROPOSED THAT WE POSTPONE THOSE. SO THEY HAD A FEW COMMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TOO& ADDRESS AND THEN BRING YOU A CLEANER COPY WITH THOSE CHANGES IF IT'S OKAY. POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. BOTH OF THE MINUTES WE HAVE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AND THEN THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES. OKAY, I DOUBLE CHECKED THE MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 17TH MEETING WERE GOOD. IT WAS THE MARCH 24TH MEETING THAT RECORDED MINUTES. UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THE MARCH 17TH. IF THERE'S NO. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. MARCH 17TH WAS GOOD. 24 IS THE ONE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE 
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CORRECTIONS. YES. OKAY. AND THE CORRECTIONS ARE THE ONES THAT YOU NOTED. YES. AND YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING LET'S JUST PUSH THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING? WELL, THE ONE THAT NEEDS IT. THE ONE THAT NEEDS REVISIONS. YES, SIR. AND THE OTHER ONE, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, I WOULD SAY OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE AS PRESENTED. JUST THAT WOULD BE THE ONE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE? WELL, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. OH, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. OKAY. VERY WELL. SO DOO& YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THE& MOTION. YEAH. I'M IN THIS VERY.& AYE. AVILA. AY. AYE AYE AYE. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, SO MOVING ON T& ITEM FIVE B DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE SPECIAL PLANNINGG& AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON MARCH 24TH, 2025. THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO GET. CONSIDER TABLING. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE? I MOTION. I MOVE TO TABLE THE ITEM. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. MELINDA'S A VERY HIGH, HIGH, HIGH A HIGH. MOVING ON TO& NUMBER SIX. ANNOUNCEMENTS. ITEM SIX A THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED 
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MEETING WOULD BE MONDAY, APRIL 21ST, 2025 AT 6 P.M. 19. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT BE HEREE& FOR THAT ONE ALREADY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE, FOR THE REST OF THE MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED FOR ATTENDANCE SINCE WE'RE GOING TO& BE DOWN ONE ALREADY. OKAY. YEAH. 
          WE'LL DO AN EARLY ONE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. I THINK IT WAS MORE HELPFUL LIKE THAT. RIGHT? LIKE ONE THE WEEK BEFORE AND THEN THE WEEK OFF THE THERE'S THE WHAT DID WE DO IT LIKE THE THURSDAY BEFORE, THE WEEK BEFORE AND THEN THE THURSDAY ON THE RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING. YOU'R& TALKING ABOUT REMINDERS, CORRECT? OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THAT WAS ITEM. 668. OKAY. VERYY& GOOD. WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TOO& ADJOURN. SECOND.
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