AGENDA. THE AGENDAS ARE IN YOUR BINDERS, TOO, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. JUST JUST 
          [1. CALL TO ORDER; PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE; ESTABLISHMENT OF QUORUM:]
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CALLED. IT'S NOT 6:00, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR PLANNING AND ZONING O. 
          WITH. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT TO DO. NOVEMBER THE 18TH. AND WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AGILITY. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC. 
          FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ATTENDANCE? YOU HAVE. YES, SIR. WE NEED A QUORUM. WE DO NEED QUORUM. AND YOU HAVE EXCUSED ABSENCES. YES. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER THREE. GO AHEAD. SO OPEN FORUM. WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN IT. SIGN UP FOR A SPEAK. OKAY. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR. 
          [4. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
OKAY. NUMBER FOUR. ITEM FOR A DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION. AND THE RESUBMITTED REPLAT APPLICATION FOR HORIZON MANOR. UNIT THREE REPLAT EIGHT. CASE NUMBER RP ZERO ZERO 2460 2020 LEGAL SCRIBBLES A PORTION OF LOT 19, BLOCK NINE HORIZON MANOR FACTORY, TOWN OF BRYSON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 7.9365 ACRES PLUS MINUS. APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY CATA CONSULTING. POSTPONED FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2024 PNC MEETING. GOOD EVENING, MISTER CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. ART RUBIO, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ABOUT TO MAKE AN OFFER. OR OR. YEAH, MAKE AN OFFER FOR THE FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR THE PONDING AREA SO THAT THE CITY COULD PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WITHDRAW THIS APPLICATION, BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THIS PLAT WILL NO LONGER BE THERE. SO IT'LL BE OURS BECAUSE YOU NEED THAT PROPERTY FOR THE PONDING, OF COURSE, FOR HORIZON MANOR. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW. SHE'S ABOUT TO MAKE THE OFFER TO THE TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER. SO WE'RE CLOSE. WE'RE CLOSE TO GETTING THIS THING SETTLED. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. 
          ON THAT ONE, WE NEED TO. YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION. MAKE. POSTPONE. MAKE A MOTION AND I'LL SECOND. OKAY. 
          OKAY. SO MOTION CARRIES. ITEM FOUR. BE ON THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT APPLICATION FOR RANCHO ACIERTO VIGO. UNIT 17, CASE NUMBER AS YOU SEE, 24 0002. LEGALLY, IS CREVASSE A PORTION OF LAKE CLARK SURVEY NUMBER 297. TOWN OF BRYSON CITY, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS, CONTAINING 19.647 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE TIERRA AND ASSOCIATES. AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, ART RUBIO, PLANNER. PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A COMBINATION SUBDIVISION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT TOGETHER FOR RANCHO UNIT 17. THIS IS A 100 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. WITH THE SMALLEST LOT APPROXIMATELY 6000FT■!S. AND THE LARGEST IS 13,032FT■!S. SO THEY MET THE. THEY MEET THE MINIMUMS. PRIMARY ACCESS IS FROM CLERICAL PLACE. SO THEY WILL BE MAKING AN EXTENSION TO CLERICAL TO THE SUBDIVISION. AND THEN AS FAR AS PARKLAND DEDICATION, THERE IS NO PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIRED, BUT THERE IS A FEE OF $40,000. IT'S A $400 PER PER LOT. OKAY. SO. THIS. SO DID YOU SAY 40,000 PER LOT FOR $400 PER LOT? $400? CORRECT. YES, SIR. 
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TYPICALLY, THE THRESHOLD IS FROM 0 TO 149. LOTS. THERE IS NO PARKLAND DEDICATION, ONLY FEES. 
          ONCE YOU GO ABOVE THAT 150 AND ON, IT STARTS TO CHARGE PARKLAND TWO ACRES TO START WITH TWO ACRES. AND THEN THEY GO UP. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE AERIAL. AS YOU SEE, IT'S JUST VACANT PROPERTY. IT'S RIGHT DIRECTLY BELOW RANCHO DEL RIO, UNIT 16, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE PNC AND THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT ONE'S ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS IN THIS AREA RIGHT UP HERE. OOPS. RIGHT UP. RIGHT UP HERE ON THE TOP. ON THE TOP THERE. YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU RECALL, 14 IS DOWN HERE. THAT ONE'S ALSO THIS ONE. 14 IS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED AND IT'S ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING HOMES AND THEN 17 IS COMING BEFORE YOU NOW. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE ZONING MAP. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R NINE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. ALL OF IT. THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. AGAIN THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF DARRINGTON ROAD AND SOUTH OF CLERICAL PLACE. THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS IN YELLOW. WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND THEN IN LIGHT BLUE IS THE. THE ACTUAL ROADWAYS FOR YOU ALL. SO YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE SOMETIMES WITH THE PRELIMINARIE. AND AS FAR AS PONDING, THIS SUBDIVISION WILL BE USING THE POND ON RANCHO BELLO 16. THIS POND RIGHT DIRECTLY ABOVE HERE. THERE IS CAPACITY FOR DRAINAGE TO THIS SUBDIVISION ONTO THIS THIS POND HERE. I THINK IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES IN SIZE. 
          THIS IS THE FINAL SUBDIVISION FOR RANCHO ALTOBELLO. UNIT 17. AND THESE ARE THE CROSS-SECTIONS THEY'RE PROPOSING. AGAIN, AN EXTENSION TO CLERIC, WHICH IS A 76 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S A MINOR ARTERIAL. AND THEN ALSO THE INTERNAL ROADWAYS, WHICH ARE LOCAL STREETS, THE RESIDENTIAL SUB COLLECTORS. THAT WOULD BE A 52 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. THERE WERE NO ADVERSE OR PENDING COMMENTS FROM STAFF AND STAFF BASED ON THE APPLICATION MEETING, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR SUBDIVISION APPLICATION PROCEDURE AND APPROVAL PROCESS. SECTION 4.2 PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIREMENTS AND SECTION 4.3 FINAL PLAT REQUIREMENTS. PLANNING DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAT ON A PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL BASIS. AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE? ANYONE FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. AND MR. BERRY, A. COOL. OKAY. MOTION 
          [5. OTHER BUSINESS]
CARRIES. ON ITEM FIVE EIGHT, WE HAVE UNDER PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. MR. CHAIR, ON THIS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. AND IF YOU ALL WANT TO APPROVE IT, WE CAN AND THEN. BUT YOU WOULD NEED TO SIGN THOSE. THOSE MINUTES OR IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT FOR MR. AVILA WHATEVER YOUR YOUR PREFERENCE IS THAT'S FINE. IF EVERYBODY'S AWARE AND ACCEPTS THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 16TH, MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. WE HAVE A STRONG. SALES IN FAVOR? MOST IN FAVOR? YEAH. ALL THOSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          A MOTION CARRIES. ITEM FIVE EIGHT UNDER REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF THE 2025 MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. CORRECTION FIVE B. RIGHT. FIVE B. YEAH. YEAH. THIS IS ANOTHER BUSINESS. SHOULD BE ON ANOTHER BUSINESS. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER THE 2025 MEETING SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE'RE COMING CLOSE TO THE NEXT SUBMITTAL PERIOD, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DECEMBER 16TH TO DECEMBER 19TH FOR THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING. SO THIS IS THE SCHEDULE ITSELF. THERE'S WE MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO CONFLICTS AS FAR AS HOLIDAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WITH THE SCHEDULE. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT IT AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU IF YOU 
          [00:10:04]
SEE SOMETHING THAT'S OFF. BUT THIS IS STILL UP. SO. RIGHT OR NOT, IT'S. STILL. AT THE. OKAY. 
          GOOD WITH ME? YEAH. I THINK ON THE LAST MEETING, THE THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH VETERANS DAY, WHICH WAS THE ONLY THING THAT W, IF YOU RECALL. RIGHT. BUT THIS ONE, WE MADE SURE THAT THAT DATE WAS, WAS CLEAR. WE ALSO HAVE SOME SPECIAL MEETINGS ON NOVEMBER THE 3RD AND DECEMBER. 
          THE FIRST. SO WHAT THOSE ARE IS JUST IN CASE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE MEETING LIKE SAY FOR EXAMPLE, NOVEMBER 17TH, YOU WANT IT EARLIER. WE COULD HAVE IT NOVEMBER 3RD AND THEN FOR DECEMBER IF YOU WANT IT EARLIER THAN DECEMBER 15TH, WE WOULD HAVE IT DECEMBER 1ST. THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE SPECIAL MEETINGS IN CASE THAT'S THAT'S YOURS. WISH TO DO THAT. OKAY. OR IF SOMETHING COMES UP. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, THE MOTION. 
          ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ON NUMBER SIX ANNOUNCEMENTS. ITEM SIX A THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED 
          [6. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
MEETING, IT WILL BE FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER 16TH, 2024, AT 6 P.M. OKAY. AND ALSO, WE'RE HAVING THAT VOLUNTEER DINNER AT CATTLEMAN'S. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING ON VIP, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT, YOU NEED TO DO THAT. I THINK IT'S DECEMBER THE 7TH. I BELIEVE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          YES, SIR. I THINK IT WAS. IT'S THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK. SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT I THINK I THINK THE DEADLINE'S ALREADY PASSED OR DID IT ALREADY, BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS CAN STILL RSVP. YEAH. YOU CAN STILL RSVP. YEAH. THE RSVP IS ALREADY ON THAT. YOU GOT MY EMAIL OUT ON THAT. THEY SENT AN EMAIL OUT. THEY SENT. IF YOU WANT TO REPLY TO IT. YEAH. OKAY. I GOT A CALL ON THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WE CAN LET THEM KNOW IF YOU WANT. MR. BARRY. YEAH, WE CAN LET. MISS. MISS. YEAH. 
          EVERYBODY HERE WANTS TO ATTEND. I WILL BE IN TOWN. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S TWICE. TWICE ALREADY BEEN MISSING OUT EVERY YEAR. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE OUT A CARD THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT. SO EVERY YEAR, MY FAMILY AND I, WE GO TO RUIDOSO. WE GET A CABIN, AND WE USUALLY DO IT THE WEEK, THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. SO WE DO LIKE A GIFT EXCHANGE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY. AND IT ALWAYS LANDS ON THE SAME WEEKEND. AND WE DO THIS DINNER. YEAH. MY WIFE'S CHRISTMAS PARTY WOULD ALWAYS LAND ON THE SAME ON OR ALMOST BACK TO BACK. WE'D GO LIKE ON A FRIDAY AND THEN HERS WOULD BE ON A SATURDAY. SO THIS ONE CHANGED. WE MOVED IT UP TO NOVEMBER. WHAT'S THAT? NEXT YEAR I'LL MOVE THE TRIP TO THE SECOND WEEK TO THE SECOND. THERE YOU GO. I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE WRONG CHRISTMAS PARTY LAST YEAR. OH, NO. SO YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE ME ON SATURDAY? I WENT ON FRIDAY, AND ME AND MY WIFE WERE THERE FOR LIKE TWO, THREE HOURS, AND PEOPLE WERE, LIKE, LOOKING AT U. 
          SOMEONE CAME UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WHO ARE YOU GUYS? I WAS LIKE, OH YEAH, I WAS PLANNING AND ZONING. NO BIG DEAL. AND THEN EVENTUALLY SOMEONE WAS LIKE, HEY, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE AT THE WRONG PARTY. OH. AND THEN WE WERE LIKE, YOU NEED TO EAT. AND NOW WE JUST HUNG OUT. THEY FEED YOU? YEAH. WE ATE GOOD. OH, WELL. WELL, HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE. 
          YEAH. DO YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE MEETING? SO DO YOU WANT TO JOIN THE MEETING? DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR NOT? WE'RE GOING TO. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO. YES. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING. SECOND, THE MOTION. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP. WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. SO DO I HAVE TO CONTACT THE. WHO IS IT? MISS SHULER? NO. WE CAN WE CAN LET HER KNOW. OH, OKAY. YES, SIR. MY WIFE AND I, NOT HER. 
          JUST BE ME. WE'LL JUST PUT TWO. JUST TWO. JUST IN CASE. SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER. MAYBE YOU'LL GET LUCKY AND GET TWO STEAKS. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. YES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THANKS AGAIN FOR COMING IN. APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER. 
          ALSO, WE ALREADY HAVE. I THINK WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION ALREADY IN. AND THEN WE'RE EXPECTING ANOTHER ONE. THE FINAL FOR VALENCIA. AND THEN WE HAVE A SMALL COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION OFF OF CANOSSA FOR LIKE, RETAIL SHOPS AND STUFF. WE HAVE SOME REAL SIMPLE. OKAY. YES. WE'LL 
          [00:15:01]
SEE YOU ALL NEXT
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